Psychic RPG Duel: Mewtwo vs. Noir (Haru Okumura)

[Arceus0x]

<Passively terminated
That makes literally no sense.

Mewtwo doesn't memory wipe at the Start in this form, he uses TK which Haru can survive, so she can just Hax him and hit his soul since Mewtwo has literally zero resistance.

who says she starts with that?

i never said passively terminated, read carefully. He literally resurrected himself from being terminated. What i mean is he has passive resurrection.

In this form we don't even know what he starts with as this is shadow mewtwo, while the one who starts with tk is base mewtwo.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Shadow Mewtwo is more of a DB character than anything else. His primary MO is nuke the planet.

So uh...does Haru need to breathe?

 

[Schnee_One]

@Cal No

@Arc Most of her attacks do that and she doesn't need to lead with it. I also don't think you know what passive means unless you tell me Mewtwo is ressurecting every second of the day.

Then you have zero proof he starts with memory wipe yes?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Haru can breathe in space?

 

[Schnee_One]

Her being drawn into space is the attack that gives her 4A justification

 

[Arceus0x]

Haru can breathe in space?

there is nothing stated about that in her profile and her range is only mutli-kilometer while mewtwo's is interstellar

 

[Schnee_One]

They start 4KM away

 

[Arceus0x]

They start 4KM away

to nuke the planet he teleports into space

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Also, genuine question. How are Gun skills instant? It's a gun.

Mewtwo in the state isn't likely to use his hax due to being naturally bloodlusted. And the actual definition of the word, not the VSBW definition.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Also, genuine question. How are Gun skills instant? It's a gun.
Mewtwo in the state isn't likely to use his hax due to being naturally bloodlusted. And the actual definition of the word, not the VSBW definition.

Gun skills, not an actual gun.

 

[Schnee_One]

@Cal Gun "Skills" ehnhance the bullets velocity to the point that it hits the moment the trigger is pulled, the gun itself isn't instant.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

With zero context, that makes no sense. Elaborate.

 

[Schnee_One]

@Cal Gun "Skills" ehnhance the bullets velocity to the point that it hits the moment the trigger is pulled, the gun itself isn't instant.

No worries, already did it

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

So isn't that just a significant speed boost?

Speaking of speed, both are MFTL+. Why is it equalized?

 

[Schnee_One]

No because the bullet itself doesn't actually leave the barrel.

Then again even if it was, Mewtwo doesn't use speed Amps here.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

So it teleports the bullet onto you?

Also I'm assuming no attack in Persona is capable of missing then.

 

[Schnee_One]

I believe so yes.

Direct attacks like swinging or standard guns will miss, special attacks don't.

 

[Arceus0x]

No because the bullet itself doesn't actually leave the barrel.
Then again even if it was, Mewtwo doesn't use speed Amps here.

you'd still need to shoot that, even if the bullet itself is instant. Like if in real life a laser is pretty much instant for a human eye but you still need to activate it. Meanwhile most mewtwo attacks are thought based and if he starts by teleporting into space and blasting the living hell out of the planet, there is nothing that prevents haru from dying from oxygen loss, extreme cold and radiation.

 

[YungManzi]

Special attacks miss, alright. I have Persona 5 and Royal.

I've never gotten much into the battle side of the verse here though.

 

[Eganergo]

Haru can miss definitely, though it's up to luck. I dunno if speed can dodge a bullet that is literally Fiamma HR but weaker.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Special attacks miss, alright. I have Persona 5 and Royal.
I've never gotten much into the battle side of the verse here though.

You need to realize Persona users can literally spawn spells where you are, the chances of Haru missing are very very minimal.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Haru can miss definitely, though it's up to luck. I dunno if speed can dodge a bullet that is literally Fiamma HR but weaker.

Same I what I said earlier, chances of Haru missing are hella low.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Again, Arceus. This version of Mewtwo doesn't use his thought based things in a normal fight. The Shadow Crystal in his neck prevents his normal thinking.

 

[YungManzi]

I mean, as I said, I never focused much on the battle lore itself.

I'm saying gameplay-wise missing is very common among skills. Especially ones like Tripple Down.

And you're more likely to miss when a shadow speed amps itself.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

If Smash is anything to go by, they're not instant.

 

[Arceus0x]

Again, Arceus. This version of Mewtwo doesn't use his thought based things in a normal fight. The Shadow Crystal in his neck prevents his normal thinking.

yeah sorry i get it.

Anyways mewtwo nukes the earth and Haru gets turned into a popsicle.

 

[Schnee_One]

If Mewtwo can't think then how can he teleport?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

By thinking I mean rationale. Not that he's brain dead. Normal Mewtwo is "beat enemy efficiently and quickly." Shadow Mewtwo is "kill anything that moves."

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

I mean, as I said, I never focused much on the battle lore itself.
I'm saying gameplay-wise missing is very common among skills. Especially ones like Tripple Down.

And you're more likely to miss when a shadow speed amps itself.

Nah, Persona spells are far more complex than what gameplay displays.

 

[Arceus0x]

By thinking I mean rationale. Not that he's brain dead. Normal Mewtwo is "beat enemy efficiently and quickly." Shadow Mewtwo is "kill anything that moves."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c_FAY0yVlg

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Again, Arceus. This version of Mewtwo doesn't use his thought based things in a normal fight. The Shadow Crystal in his neck prevents his normal thinking.

yeah sorry i get it.
Anyways mewtwo nukes the earth and Haru gets turned into a popsicle.

Okay, so again, do you remember Haru's spells are literally faster than him?

 

[Arceus0x]

Again, Arceus. This version of Mewtwo doesn't use his thought based things in a normal fight. The Shadow Crystal in his neck prevents his normal thinking.

yeah sorry i get it.
Anyways mewtwo nukes the earth and Haru gets turned into a popsicle.

Okay, so again, do you remember Haru's spells are literally faster than him?

speed is equalized and mewtwo has instant teleportation

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Nah, Persona spells are far more complex than what gameplay displays.

And why is that? I get gameplay isn't necessarily canon but what disregards it?

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Actually, shouldnt Shadow Mewtwo just passive reality warp the area into his pocket space? He....pretty much does that everytime he appears when having the Shadow Synergy stone.

 

[Schnee_One]

IF he does that and won't nuke the planet then he's screwed

 

[Arceus0x]

IF he does that and won't nuke the planet then he's screwed

im pretty sure that his pocket reality is pretty much an arena in outer space so this would possibly make things even easier.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Nah, Persona spells are far more complex than what gameplay displays.

And why is that? I get gameplay isn't necessarily canon but what disregards it?

I can't even go even how much the gameplay is minor compared to the actual lore of the spells. Spells can range from danmaku, auras, and change to whatever their user imagines their shape to be. All of this was agreed on in the discord.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Actually, shouldnt Shadow Mewtwo just passive reality warp the area into his pocket space? He....pretty much does that everytime he appears when having the Shadow Synergy stone.

Haru resists that anyways.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Again, Arceus. This version of Mewtwo doesn't use his thought based things in a normal fight. The Shadow Crystal in his neck prevents his normal thinking.

yeah sorry i get it.
Anyways mewtwo nukes the earth and Haru gets turned into a popsicle.

Okay, so again, do you remember Haru's spells are literally faster than him?

speed is equalized and mewtwo has instant teleportation

Persona spells have no travel time.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Haru resists that anyways.

How good is the resistance?