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Prohibiting the Silencing of FTL One Piece
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If that is present, can you show it?
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So, how many staff members do we need to get this accepted?
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Not many, emin explained already also why kizaru being stated as the fastest admiral doesnt mean anything, so we should be fine
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2? Probably maybe 3
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I dont get why people think Kizaru is only light speed? he most may/likely be faster than light coz he could make his fruit stronger and also luffy is rubber so he is rubber speed its like saying that Kizaru will never be FTL coz he has light speed fruit that's my opinion and we will see in the future (even tho it has been shown heis faster)
its like saying that Kizaru will never be FTL coz he has light speed fruit that's my opinion and we will see in the future (even tho it has been shown heis faster)
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Obviously I agree, this is insanely amazing.
Ahem, might be somewhat relevant.
"Though there are other fruit pairs out there that might make you wonder don't they pretty much do the same thing?, these abilities tend to be headed in different directions in terms of how they actually work or what they can do. Also, a superior ability does not necessarily equate to the character's strength. No ability alone guarantees victory in combat. "
- Oda, SBS Volume 79
Believing that "strength" refers to overall capabilities in battle, this basically separates the Fruit's Ability to the Character's capabilities, therefore, Kizaru having Light Fruit does not cap him at lightspeed, as he is completely independent from it.
Just like he'd not be downgraded to MHS+ if he suddenly got Enel's fruit.
Ahem, might be somewhat relevant.
"Though there are other fruit pairs out there that might make you wonder don't they pretty much do the same thing?, these abilities tend to be headed in different directions in terms of how they actually work or what they can do. Also, a superior ability does not necessarily equate to the character's strength. No ability alone guarantees victory in combat. "
- Oda, SBS Volume 79
Believing that "strength" refers to overall capabilities in battle, this basically separates the Fruit's Ability to the Character's capabilities, therefore, Kizaru having Light Fruit does not cap him at lightspeed, as he is completely independent from it.
Just like he'd not be downgraded to MHS+ if he suddenly got Enel's fruit.
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For a topic as historically controversial as this, I'd say we wait for 4 to 5 agreements. This is simply to completely shut the lid on this until new contradictory information comes along at some point. I believe that was the intention behind this thread, to simply end the discussions using those old arguments. So yeah, I say we wait for as many agreements as possible to accomplish that.
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I know this isn't a scaling thread but just to note that Hawkins and X Drake would not have FTL reaction speeds. Both of them are incapable of moving an inch in the face of Kizaru's attack speed unless you count them moving their eyeballs slightly. They were completely and utterly blitzed.
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I saw it in a debate on Facebook, unfortunately the group fell, then I lost
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GodlyCharmander
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Also how does he have FTL speed if--- Doesn't matter.
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Don't try itLight speedcombat enel?
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Lightspeed is a common term to state something is fast ("I gotta do my homework at lightspeed"), so noooope.Light speedcombat enel?
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Bad monke!Light speedcombat enel?
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I definitely agree
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yea even if it wasnt mid air kizarus leg itself was in baseFeel like the statement on him saying luffy is too slow is about luffy's travel speed because luffyreacted to himmid air (also luffy can't dodge mid air as well) and kizaru does have observation haki as well but
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It was?
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yea thats just his foot his kicks speed shouldnt have anything to do with his foot
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Cool. I agree, I was always confused why one piece isn't faster than light.
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Cough "Nobody is faster than Kizaru argument".
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Alright.
We have 5 staff members agreeing and 1 staff member neutral, with a crap ton of knowledgeable members agreeing and so far, no disagreements.
Would this need a note or something? Or should we just remember this thread for the future?
We have 5 staff members agreeing and 1 staff member neutral, with a crap ton of knowledgeable members agreeing and so far, no disagreements.
Would this need a note or something? Or should we just remember this thread for the future?
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Yeah I think so
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We absolutely need a note.
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Something like this definitely needs a note unless you want a "bUt KiZaRu ThO?!" thread every other day.
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Yeah it should. Somewhere on the One Piece Verse Page in the Note section
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a kick relies on the muscles in the leg,thigh and the gluteus muscles (back of your thigh and ass) just try kicking and see what parts you rely on more for better kicks if you didnt get me
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Oh yeah the one that said these?
Contradicted by Niji who can react to his own movement, and everybody else who stares at lasers that don't have observation haki
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Well it's anime... And his kicks are stated to be light speed
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Plus it’s non-canon anyway
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Also See =/ Reacting
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