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Subsonic means faster than the eye so it should work fine with the description given. However, on second thought, I'd ponder at the AP since it has no references.
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Profile Deletion Requests Thread (New forum)
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Tashi
Tashi was a young elite warrior of the Saiyan class. Shortly after birth, he was transferred to a laboratory on another distant planet, where he acquired the Kaiohshins' DNA, thus becoming a hybrid. His main technique is copying, allowing him to unlimitedly reproduce any ability of an enemy of...
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I was actually gonna request it to be deleted too lolObvious reasonsTashi
Tashi was a young elite warrior of the Saiyan class. Shortly after birth, he was transferred to a laboratory on another distant planet, where he acquired the Kaiohshins' DNA, thus becoming a hybrid. His main technique is copying, allowing him to unlimitedly reproduce any ability of an enemy of...
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Arkhaos
Arkhaos is a fan made pokemon from Pokemon Infinity he acts as the god who lays arceus eggs to make more universes his tier is 0 because of how in the pokemon infinity universe everything is just the dream of the protagonist so as long as the protagonist believes him to be a omnipotent god or...
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Adam (Hazbin Hotel)
Adam is the main antagonist of the first season of Hazbin Hotel As the first human man,[3] Adam holds a large amount of prestige in Heaven, having been appointed as the head of the Exorcists in order to defend Heaven.[4] Adam, upon being borderline antagonized multiple times targets the Hazbin...
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This profile should be deleted, its poor quality and I am already making another one. It was done while the supporters were still discussing.
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It got recreated.
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The only remaining issues I can see are very minor grammar slip-ups. Why should I delete it?
We don't actually have a procedure for letting certain people reserve the idea of creating a profile, and deleting anyone else who tries. Anyone who lets someone else do that does it out of kindness, not necessity.
If you want it to be made differently, I think you just have to create a CRT.
We don't actually have a procedure for letting certain people reserve the idea of creating a profile, and deleting anyone else who tries. Anyone who lets someone else do that does it out of kindness, not necessity.
If you want it to be made differently, I think you just have to create a CRT.
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No references,(grounds for instant deletion) missing calcs that'd make him 7-C, there's currently a long debate on certain sections of his profile, yeah I can come up with reasons to delete it. Direct the person who made it to the below thread which is currently on the fifth page of debate.
Adam (Hazbin Hotel) VS Battles Page
Damage that should be impossible unless that barrier is holy by your logic. Self-inflicted damage is not impossible by my logic. If Vaggie cut her face the mask would've shown it Why? It covers the face.
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There are. That's why I deleted it last time, but won't now.
It's from scaling to Alastor, who is already established as Low 7-C (the tier actually on the page).
And those can revise it, once it's over.
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Oh so it does the bare minimum and references all of 6 things, gotcha
How about that little calc Adam has that puts him at 30 Kilotons? That's the one I'm smoking chief
So basically the effort is meaningless anyway cause it won't be used as theres a full profile prepared and only being debated on, good to know
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Missing a new calc isn't grounds for deletion, it's grounds for a CRT to be made.
Yeah.
I told the page's creator that a version of it was being discussed, they said "no there isn't" and reposted the page. If they wanna stick their head in the sand about it and waste time & effort, that's their problem.
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Alright then
Excellent, pain and misery for when they look at their Adam profile and realize it looks nothing like what they made
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Bronya Zaychik
Almost zero scans and references in the P&A. The justifications are lacking and inconsistent, for example, some justifications in the Key of Truth have some explanation while others just have "With Xth Divine Key, name" and it's not even explained why she has these things or why the Divine Key has those haxes.
Part of the AP justification is misleading, the "and using Star of Eden with Yamabuki Armor, she could notably damage the Herrscher of the Void" is false, the feat happens here, and you can see that is not what happened.
Inconsistency in resistance, all Herrschers have resistance to Physics manipulation, but for some reason Bronya is the only one who doesn't have it.
No scans and references for her range, no justification on the High Complex Multiversal range, the justifications also doesn't explain the reason she has it, it just say she has it via X
The NA/T has some info on it, there are some scans, but again, no references, two the scans are in poor quality and it seems like someone used the automatic translation of the Youtube to generate a caption. There is also explained why she has the divine keys, but again there are no scans.
Categories are lacking.
Raiden Mei
More or less the same problems, lack of scans and references.
Her range section, only the first part is bolded, same problems in the justification where it says that she has this via X without explaining why.
Natasha
Doesn't have any source, no justification on the intelligence, LS, stamina, and range section.
The profiles below are a little better, but there are still some problems, the key of the authority of Kevin's profile has problems with justifications, while some things have a certain explanation (no scans, no references) others are just "with the Authority of Ice" his profile says that he has all the authorities, but we've seen before in this post that, for example, the Reason authority has High Complex Multiversal range, but we don't see that in his range. Some justifications are lacking as well. He is also lacking a Sim key.
Kiana's profiles says that she resisted one of the supposed scalings that Bronya has, with no mention of Star of Eden in the justifications, and it doesn't even explain why the Oath of Judah has powernull. There's the physics manipulation resistance scan, but you only see this scan there and not in the other profiles despite them using the same justification. The Finality key has more or less the same problems as the Kevin's one, and so does the range.
Kalpas's profile is better, there are more scans even though there are no references and some are links on Imgur and not in the formatting. No scans for his AP, LS, dura, intelligence, the speed section only links to profile and to an outdated calc, no justification on his range. His sim key is very different from Elysia's, for example.
Captain's profile says in the fairytale key (that key also lacks some justifications, references, and scans) that the Oath of Judah has resistence negation, while in Kiana's profile it says it has powernull instead, it also doesn't say that she resists resistance negation in the justifications, talking about resistances it also says that "with Divine Keys, which operate using Herrscher powers that naturally bend and break the laws of physics by imposing their laws upon reality" and this is attributed as "Limited Law and Dimensional manipulation" no other profile has this, I also have no idea how you have dimensional manipulation by breaking the laws of physics. In the Hyperion key, there is a mention of 11 dimensional space, no scans, no references, and it doesn't explain whether these dimensions qualify under the site's standards. General lack of scans, and the same problem in the range that all profiles have. The NA/T seems okay, could have more sources though.
Otto's profile is one of the best, A good part of the profile has scans and references, but even this one doesn't escape the problems that affect the whole verse. Some justifications still don't exist and have no source at all, just look at the amount of "with something" with no explanation or source as to why. Same range problems. NA/T unsourced.
Elysia's profile isn't too bad, I can only point to the lack of some scans, references, some links are broken, and the inconsistency in the justification of the Sim key with the other profiles.
Kevin
Kiana
Kalpas
Captain
Elysia
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All profiles suffer more or less from these problems, I think most have good reasons for being deleted, while there are 2 profiles that are a bit better and probably need to be discussed.
Almost zero scans and references in the P&A. The justifications are lacking and inconsistent, for example, some justifications in the Key of Truth have some explanation while others just have "With Xth Divine Key, name" and it's not even explained why she has these things or why the Divine Key has those haxes.
Part of the AP justification is misleading, the "and using Star of Eden with Yamabuki Armor, she could notably damage the Herrscher of the Void" is false, the feat happens here, and you can see that is not what happened.
Inconsistency in resistance, all Herrschers have resistance to Physics manipulation, but for some reason Bronya is the only one who doesn't have it.
No scans and references for her range, no justification on the High Complex Multiversal range, the justifications also doesn't explain the reason she has it, it just say she has it via X
The NA/T has some info on it, there are some scans, but again, no references, two the scans are in poor quality and it seems like someone used the automatic translation of the Youtube to generate a caption. There is also explained why she has the divine keys, but again there are no scans.
Categories are lacking.
Raiden Mei
More or less the same problems, lack of scans and references.
Her range section, only the first part is bolded, same problems in the justification where it says that she has this via X without explaining why.
Natasha
Doesn't have any source, no justification on the intelligence, LS, stamina, and range section.
The profiles below are a little better, but there are still some problems, the key of the authority of Kevin's profile has problems with justifications, while some things have a certain explanation (no scans, no references) others are just "with the Authority of Ice" his profile says that he has all the authorities, but we've seen before in this post that, for example, the Reason authority has High Complex Multiversal range, but we don't see that in his range. Some justifications are lacking as well. He is also lacking a Sim key.
Kiana's profiles says that she resisted one of the supposed scalings that Bronya has, with no mention of Star of Eden in the justifications, and it doesn't even explain why the Oath of Judah has powernull. There's the physics manipulation resistance scan, but you only see this scan there and not in the other profiles despite them using the same justification. The Finality key has more or less the same problems as the Kevin's one, and so does the range.
Kalpas's profile is better, there are more scans even though there are no references and some are links on Imgur and not in the formatting. No scans for his AP, LS, dura, intelligence, the speed section only links to profile and to an outdated calc, no justification on his range. His sim key is very different from Elysia's, for example.
Captain's profile says in the fairytale key (that key also lacks some justifications, references, and scans) that the Oath of Judah has resistence negation, while in Kiana's profile it says it has powernull instead, it also doesn't say that she resists resistance negation in the justifications, talking about resistances it also says that "with Divine Keys, which operate using Herrscher powers that naturally bend and break the laws of physics by imposing their laws upon reality" and this is attributed as "Limited Law and Dimensional manipulation" no other profile has this, I also have no idea how you have dimensional manipulation by breaking the laws of physics. In the Hyperion key, there is a mention of 11 dimensional space, no scans, no references, and it doesn't explain whether these dimensions qualify under the site's standards. General lack of scans, and the same problem in the range that all profiles have. The NA/T seems okay, could have more sources though.
Otto's profile is one of the best, A good part of the profile has scans and references, but even this one doesn't escape the problems that affect the whole verse. Some justifications still don't exist and have no source at all, just look at the amount of "with something" with no explanation or source as to why. Same range problems. NA/T unsourced.
Elysia's profile isn't too bad, I can only point to the lack of some scans, references, some links are broken, and the inconsistency in the justification of the Sim key with the other profiles.
Kevin
Kiana
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Otto
All profiles suffer more or less from these problems, I think most have good reasons for being deleted, while there are 2 profiles that are a bit better and probably need to be discussed.
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Do you want me to just nuke the entire verse at this point?
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If you mean it, I am not opposed to it, but the calculations can stay, the Honkai Energy page I am not sure, it's by far the most sourced part of the verse, so it probably can stay.
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Verse-specific powers and abilities can only be maintained if at least 5 characters retains it. If all those profiles are gonna get nuked, then that page isn’t an exception.
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RIP, you can proceed then.
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Anyways, I’m gonna tag some supporters on this.
@Solacis @Vietthai96 @Emirp sumitpo @Avengershows @ThanatosX
Making sure that everyone’s okay with deleting the verse.
@Solacis @Vietthai96 @Emirp sumitpo @Avengershows @ThanatosX
Making sure that everyone’s okay with deleting the verse.
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Man this verse isn't ever getting rest;
But it's fine by me I guess, only if Shiroiyo is willing to actually work on the verse though
But it's fine by me I guess, only if Shiroiyo is willing to actually work on the verse though
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We don't delete verses that people are willing to work on. If they want to work on it, they'll stay up, so CRTs can be made to revise them.
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Yeah, page deletion is not necessary.
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I'd like other people's opinion on whether Mason Hargreaves should stay up.
It's the only character from the series, is 10-A physically, 9-C with weapons, and has no superhuman abilities (and really, a few of them feel like stretches).
Although, the Wikipedia page for the source material describes it as an action movie, so I'm unsure whether that suffices for our standards or not.
It's the only character from the series, is 10-A physically, 9-C with weapons, and has no superhuman abilities (and really, a few of them feel like stretches).
Although, the Wikipedia page for the source material describes it as an action movie, so I'm unsure whether that suffices for our standards or not.
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He has several P&A, why is he even up for discussion
He's fine lol
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- Peak Human Physical Characteristics: Achievable by a human.
- Expert Marksman: Achievable by a human.
- Martial Arts: Achievable by a human.
- Social Influencing: Wank, it's literally just him having a network of informants.
- Stealth Mastery: Wank, breaking into a home doesn't guarantee any amount of stealth. And to the extent that it does, it's achievable by humans. Ask the hundreds of thousands of people who do that every year.
- Supernatural Willpower: Wank.
"worthy of indexing" has typically been taken to mean "has superhuman feats" or "focuses on fighting". That's why it says to avoid realistic characters from sitcoms and romcoms.
It clearly fails the superhuman part, but idk if it fails the fighting-focus part, hence why I want more opinions.
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To my personally, I really don't see an actual problem with this although some of the abilities does look pretty fishy. And it literally specifically states "realistic romantic comedies" but the other one is rather worded pretty vaguely, so I'm not quite sure how to make out of that one. And even then, we do allow a lot of 10-As with abilities like that one on there. Deleting it will not be necessary
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I fail to see how the rules mean "has superhuman feats" rather than "Has relevant combat feats"
By this metric, the mainline Saw films should be axed since the stuff in it is achievable by humans, and I'd hardly say it focuses on fighting (Unless you take escaping traps for that?)
Either way if the page is from an action movie idk why it's not the second for sure
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As our rule states, it's not so much about the individual profile, but about the verse overall, and whether it's worthy of indexing.
TDN Trilogy hits 9-A with Subsonic reactions.
Robocop hits 9-B with Supersonic reactions.
Gladiator's the only close call out of those, its highest being 9-C for fighting off a tiger, and Superhuman with no justification. But I haven't seen the media, so maybe it still qualifies by virtue of being combat focused.
...If I brought out precedent, reiterated and going back over 5 years, establishing that, would that satisfy you? Since I really don't wanna bother with that unless I have to.
Saw has blatantly 9-B characters within the games, that might lend credibility to the films being included.
I haven't seen it, so I don't know exactly where it falls on that sorta line. Hence the asking.
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Except, these characters that I've mentioned in the links aren't actually scaling at all to those who are actually Superhuman within the verse, what I'm saying is it's just setting up a double standard.
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Yes
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I know.
I mean that, the rules care about whether anyone in the series has such feats. Not whether any particular profile scales to them.
We would have profiles for Cool Cat if there was a 9-A feat, we don't since the MC's only combat-relevant stuff is having a gun for a bit.
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Apologies about these only going back 4 years, I think some of the earlier ones got caught in the move, or were otherwise discussed in a way that makes searching them difficult.
Here's some examples from 2020:
In October 2020, we saw the codification of our current rule with this post from AKM:
The intent was to rely on context from the rest of the verse. Sometimes, humans with one sorta pedestrian ability or a gun are allowed, because they're from a fighting verse. When the verses aren't like that, they're not allowed.
Here's some more of that, from late 2020 and early 2021
Here's a time I was talking about the same rules with you, in this thread, back in April 2021, where Ant/Armor sided with me:
Here in mid-2021, a sitcom character was saved due to having 9-C stats.
And then, in early 2022
A human level profile was saved specifically due to having notable abilities.
Going a bit newer, here's an example from late 2023
Where a "10-A physically, 9-C with weapons, at least 9-B with bombs" profile with weapon mastery, genius intelligence, preparation, and explosion manip, was deleted not just for being a representation of a terrorist from a biopic, but for failing those standards on combat notability.
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Even then, I saw characters from certain verses that has a whole series of feats still get deleted for not being as "supernatural" or rather being very realistic, I really don't see how this matters at all and again, it's a double standard and it sets up a bad precedent.
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If you wanna change those standards you can give it a shot, it's just outside the scope of this thread.
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Shirone Arian (Web Novel)
Abandoned at birth, Shirone is a child raised by commoners. As a child, she had a gift for insight and learned to read. After visiting the city, she finally saw the workings of magic, for which she was immensely curious. Shirone dreamed of becoming a magician. However, this place, with many...
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Kihara Ransuu
Kihara Ransuu is one of the members of the Kihara family sent as part of Academy City's forces to destroy Baggage City and the Natural Selector tournament. Described as a middle-low ranked member of the Kiharas, Ransuu is a researcher working on the development of chemicals that affect the...
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Útgarða-Loki
Útgarða-Loki (lit. Loki of the Outyards, not to be confused with Loki from Asgard) is one of Gremlin's members, a magician using illusion magic named after the Jötnar/giant that tricked Thor, Loki and Thjálfi with several illusions in Norse Mythology. He was one of the members sent to Baggage...
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- Are minor 10-B characters in the verse that shows up for less than half-a-chapter and are incapacitated/killed by each other off-screen.
- Aren't important to the verse scaling chain nor does they offer anything to it as they simply hadn't fought anybody in an actual fight before they was incapacitated/killed by each other off-screen
- Both of them have no scans or references for their ability justification (but this isn't too much of an issue since this profile was made around the early 2010s, iirc)
- Ransuu as only "two abilities" - of which one can be argued to be social manip instead of emp manip as it is listed and illusions through drugs. Útgarða-Loki just uses illusions via magic.
Artificial Valkyrie
Artificial Valkyries (人工ヴァルキリー Jinkō Varukirī) are the result of a magical experiment that aims to turn women into Valkyries after birth by distorting the important parts of the people, similar to changing one’s blood type with a bone marrow transplant. The experiment was reportedly stopped, but...
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- Are just a "mob" type enemy that only showed up in the epilogue of one story and has never made another appearance or has never been mentioned since.
- They don't scale to anything. As they were only ever fought by people who one-shotted them nor have they actually harmed anybody on-screen. Any character that is mentioned that they scale above to are guesswork at best.
- Has no scans or references for their justification (but this isn't too much of an issue since this profile was made around the early 2010s, iirc)
Leep
Leep is an Egyptian magician and priestess of Bastet who appeared as an antagonist in one of the series short side-stories. Leep had lost someone she had looked up to, a Priestess of Sekhmet. Realizing she didn't know much about her or her past, she tried to retrieve the Priestess' Book of the...
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Alfar
Alfar is a non-human character in Toaru Majutsu no Index, an artificial magical life form. As her name indicates, she was created by a Norse magician in a laboratory flask from a fossil that was similar to the legends of Alfar (Elves) of Norse mythology, though her creator is not sure if she's a...
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Krans R. Tsarskiy
Krans R. Tsarskiy is the current patriarch of the Russian Orthodox Church. Although a child in looks and often times in disposition, he has the wits with him to be able to wield such a position, making him one of the most politically powerful persons in the Magic Side. He was used by some of his...
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Matthai Reese
Matthai Reese is the Pope of the Roman Catholic Church. Though stern-looking, Matthai is a well-meaning and kind man who worries about the disconnection he feels from the Christian masses. Matthai initially appeared as an antagonistic figure, having been convinced by God's Right Seat that...
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Professor (Toaru)
The Professor (博士 Hakase) (real name unknown) is a character introduced in Toaru Majutsu no Index. An elderly man, he is the leader of MEMBER, an underworld organization that answers to the Academy City Board of Directors and Aleister Crowley directly. Tier: 10-B Name: Professor (real name...
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Yamisaka Ouma
Yamisaka Ouma is a Japanese magician who, after meeting and falling in love with a woman who was slowly dying from a curse, kidnapped Index to draw from her mind the contents of the original grimoire Baopuzi, a Chinese grimoire that is said to hold the knowledge to create a miracle drug that can...
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There are also these early 2010s Group/Organization-like pages:
For Anti-Skill, we only have one member of this organization with a profile, Yomikawa is also the only person who has showcased any feats as the rest are fodder that are killed relatively quickly. Same for Hound with Kihara Amata. Amasuka has two members with Tatemiya Saiji and Itsuwa, but again, they suffer from the same issues of being the only ones who are relatively important and have feats while the rest are named fodder. Knights of England has a member through Knight Leader but he vastly outscales them in every category and has never fought alongside them on-screen.
Edit: Did a bit of a minor edit here as I realized I did a massive brain-fart in spelling, lel
I figure these pages should just be deleted, imo.
There are also these guys.
They are High 1-C to 5-B peps.
They have also have never said a word on-screen, have never actually fully appeared on-screen, all of their "unique abilities" were just talked about by other character, we don't know how they actually fight and all-and I do mean all- of their abilities and scaling comes from narration and them just scaling to Othinus, High Priest, Niang-Niang and Nephthys. Also, Zombie just died off-screen and didn't do anything of merit other than provide a spell.
I figure these pages should just be deleted as well, imo.
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It seems like these To Aru pages ought to be deleted to me.
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Disagree with all of these. Of course the pages should get scans or references at some point, but that is no deletion reason.Kihara Ransuu
Kihara Ransuu is one of the members of the Kihara family sent as part of Academy City's forces to destroy Baggage City and the Natural Selector tournament. Described as a middle-low ranked member of the Kiharas, Ransuu is a researcher working on the development of chemicals that affect the...Reasons:Útgarða-Loki
Útgarða-Loki (lit. Loki of the Outyards, not to be confused with Loki from Asgard) is one of Gremlin's members, a magician using illusion magic named after the Jötnar/giant that tricked Thor, Loki and Thjálfi with several illusions in Norse Mythology. He was one of the members sent to Baggage...
- Are minor 10-B characters in the verse that shows up for less than half-a-chapter and are incapacitated/killed by each other off-screen.
- Aren't important to the verse scaling chain nor does they offer anything to it as they simply hadn't fought anybody in an actual fight before they was incapacitated/killed by each other off-screen
- Both of them have no scans or references for their ability justification (but this isn't too much of an issue since this profile was made around the early 2010s, iirc)
- Ransuu as only "two abilities" - of which one can be argued to be social manip instead of emp manip as it is listed and illusions through drugs. Útgarða-Loki just uses illusions via magic.
Reasons:Artificial Valkyrie
Artificial Valkyries (人工ヴァルキリー Jinkō Varukirī) are the result of a magical experiment that aims to turn women into Valkyries after birth by distorting the important parts of the people, similar to changing one’s blood type with a bone marrow transplant. The experiment was reportedly stopped, but...
... Okay, this is getting a bit too long, so... um... I just mass link the other characters in the ToAru verse that shares the same issues I see that Ransuu, Útgarða-Loki and Artificial Valkyrie have that I see as grounds for deletion. I.E, only showed up once/limited amount of times, doesn't offer or isn't (or can't be) apart of the verse's scaling due to their extremely limited screen time, and the justifications are lacking scans or references or aren't that altogether
- Are just a "mob" type enemy that only showed up in the epilogue of one story and has never made another appearance or has never been mentioned since.
- They don't scale to anything. As they were only ever fought by people who one-shotted them nor have they actually harmed anybody on-screen. Any character that is mentioned that they scale above to are guesswork at best.
- Has no scans or references for their justification (but this isn't too much of an issue since this profile was made around the early 2010s, iirc)
Leep
Leep is an Egyptian magician and priestess of Bastet who appeared as an antagonist in one of the series short side-stories. Leep had lost someone she had looked up to, a Priestess of Sekhmet. Realizing she didn't know much about her or her past, she tried to retrieve the Priestess' Book of the...Alfar
Alfar is a non-human character in Toaru Majutsu no Index, an artificial magical life form. As her name indicates, she was created by a Norse magician in a laboratory flask from a fossil that was similar to the legends of Alfar (Elves) of Norse mythology, though her creator is not sure if she's a...Krans R. Tsarskiy
Krans R. Tsarskiy is the current patriarch of the Russian Orthodox Church. Although a child in looks and often times in disposition, he has the wits with him to be able to wield such a position, making him one of the most politically powerful persons in the Magic Side. He was used by some of his...Matthai Reese
Matthai Reese is the Pope of the Roman Catholic Church. Though stern-looking, Matthai is a well-meaning and kind man who worries about the disconnection he feels from the Christian masses. Matthai initially appeared as an antagonistic figure, having been convinced by God's Right Seat that...Professor (Toaru)
The Professor (博士 Hakase) (real name unknown) is a character introduced in Toaru Majutsu no Index. An elderly man, he is the leader of MEMBER, an underworld organization that answers to the Academy City Board of Directors and Aleister Crowley directly. Tier: 10-B Name: Professor (real name...Yamisaka Ouma
Yamisaka Ouma is a Japanese magician who, after meeting and falling in love with a woman who was slowly dying from a curse, kidnapped Index to draw from her mind the contents of the original grimoire Baopuzi, a Chinese grimoire that is said to hold the knowledge to create a miracle drug that can...
There are also these early 2010s Group/Organization-like pages:
For Anti-Skill, we only have one member of this organization with a profile, Yomikawa is also the only person who has showcased any feats as the rest are fodder that are killed relatively quickly. Same for Hound with Kihara Amata. Amasuka has two members with Tatemiya Saiji and Itsuwa, but again, they suffer from the same issues of being the only ones who are relatively important and have feats while the rest are named fodder. Knights of England has a member through Knight Leader but he vastly outscales them in every category and has never fought alongside them on-screen.
Edit: Did a bit of a minor edit here as I realized I did a massive brain-fart in spelling, lel
I figure these pages should just be deleted, imo.
There are also these guys.
They are High 1-C to 5-B peps.
They have also have never said a word on-screen, have never actually fully appeared on-screen, all of their "unique abilities" were just talked about by other character, we don't know how they actually fight and all-and I do mean all- of their abilities and scaling comes from narration and them just scaling to Othinus, High Priest, Niang-Niang and Nephthys. Also, Zombie just died off-screen and didn't do anything of merit other than provide a spell.
I figure these pages should just be deleted as well, imo.
All of them either have enough feats to have actual stats or are normal humans with unique powers. Heck some like Yamisaka has like 10 known spells and an actual fight. And the powers are properly explained.
The only ones I would consider are Anti-Skill and maybe Hound Dog, as they are mostly just soldiers with good equipment.
We also have seen brief bits of the MGs fighting in their nerfed states. Not that it matters. A character needs no full fight if we know what they can do.
Basically, none of those (except maybe anti-skill and hound dog) meet any of our deletion criteria.
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I trust DontTalk's judgement on those then.
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Yeah, agreed
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