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Problem sleuth's 2-B problem.

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So the only reason why problem sleuth god tiers is 2-B is because of black hole kingpin affecting all possible futures, which would be a countless multiversal feat.


But, in the page linked, it reads and i quote:

"You catch a glimpse of every future event in the universe all happening at once"

Everything is on singular.

"Every future event"

means just the entire future, it doesn't even say "possible" or anything.

"In the universe"

is basically a low 2-C Feat because of this.


In the next page, it reads:

"A spectacle transceding time and space"

Another feat for low 2-C and immensurable speed maybe.

"All universal events"

Just the universe, thus low 2-C


His mass increasing is irrelevant, sorta off, it may increase his AP if it is caused by his mass (like a black hole) but it isn't grounds for 2-B.


Anymore reasons why he should be 2-B?

becuase if it is caused solely by those 2 pages, a downgrade must be discussed.
 
Yeah, that's shoody. We were supposed to downgrade him to Low 2-C a while ago. (I mean you could argue for Low 1-C via transcending time and space but that feels super iffy)
 
Has anybody done what I recommended? Please avoid asking the inactive ones though.
 
agree with the downgrade, it's consistent with Demon Kingpin's Combo Rave [which are usually the strongest attack of the character] attack ripping apart only one universe
 
Antvasima said:
Has anybody done what I recommended? Please avoid asking the inactive ones though.
I did ask all except those that weren't knowledgeable on PS and azathoth
 
Azathoth only occasionally helps out with Cthulhu Mythos revisions nowadays.
 
It's a general staff evaluation list Wright, not a specific Problem Sleuth one

Anyways aren't they affecting all the potential future event of a given universe, thus warranting 2-B?
 
Zark2099 said:
It's a general staff evaluation list Wright, not a specific Problem Sleuth one

Anyways aren't they affecting all the potential future event of a given universe, thus warranting 2-B?
The quote he gave seems to only state "all future events", not "all possible events".

Of that's true, I'll agree with this downgrade.
 
I feel like there's context I'm missing here, but from what I do here, the downgrade seems good.
 
I don't have much knowledge on the series but from a preliminary glance and what other people have said this seems fine.
 
DarkGrath said:
I feel like there's context I'm missing here, but from what I do here, the downgrade seems good.
The context is that Pickle Inspector falls in to singularity caused by Mobster Kingpin and it happens he sees every future event happening at once iirc
 
  • Yeah I agree with a Low 2-C downgrade
  • Transcending time is not enough for an Immersurable rating
 
Immeasurable still makes sense, since the black hole was warping time and falling on it caused characters to see and be in different sections of time and space. The god tiers can escape the black hole with no problem.
 
The largest potential 3-A in the entire wiki, but 3-A nonetheless.
 
Oh right, I don't know why I supposed it was talking about sucking that many universes into it. It's nature's way of telling me that I probably need a good sleep now

In that case, the downgrade seems fine to me.
 
Thank you everybody who are helping out. It seems like this has been accepted and can be applied then.
 
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