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Ninjago's Tiering 2

Minaaaa said:
wouldnt we have to diving the original feat by 8 since the mega weapon is the combination of another 4 golden weapons? id be fine with them being Low 4-C if itll end the thread
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If that's the case, then yeah, probably. Still, the feat itself is fine.

Minaaaa said:
we currently have three staff that have commented, Bambu and Garrixian agree with downgrading and DDM seeing tier 2 as fine but idk if their stances have changed

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Garrixian isn't evaluating staff, she's a Content Moderator. I understand it may be confusing, her admin role is for Joke Battles Wiki. So the vote is currently 1:1, although if DDM agrees with the Star level stuff, that at least could go through.
 
Mr. Bambu said:
Garrixian isn't evaluating staff, she's a Content Moderator. I understand it may be confusing, her admin role is for Joke Battles Wiki. So the vote is currently 1:1, although if DDM agrees with the Star level stuff, that at least could go through.
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ah alright. my mistake
 
Tbf I think you only really need to divide the feat in half, each of the ninja can scale to the combo of the golden weapons, or the Megaweapon, which both do half the work.
 
I still don’t see a valid refutation of the blog I made, but I feel that it’s gonna be forever ignored, so whatever
 
TheOrangeGuy09 said:
I still don’t see a valid refutation of the blog I made, but I feel that it’s gonna be forever ignored, so whatever
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I read your blog in making my decision. It is what led me to accept the feat as valid in the first place.

You guys seem distinctly at odds with yourselves. You want to battle for every inch of tiers you can get but also want to complain about the duration of the arguing. I have to speak on a shitload of threads that still want me to evaluate them. So respectfully, I don't have the time to banter with you back and forth about Ninjago. I read the compiled evidence and the summary posts in addition to what I read the last time I was here.

People are allowed to disagree, mang. My vote sits where it sits.
 
Mr. Bambu said:
I read your blog in making my decision. It is what led me to accept the feat as valid in the first place.

You guys seem distinctly at odds with yourselves. You want to battle for every inch of tiers you can get but also want to complain about the duration of the arguing. I have to speak on a shitload of threads that still want me to evaluate them. So respectfully, I don't have the time to banter with you back and forth about Ninjago. I read the compiled evidence and the summary posts in addition to what I read the last time I was here.

People are allowed to disagree, mang. My vote sits where it sits.
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Okay, but no-one directly mentioned it nor gave an argument to why the reasons provided there to scale fully to 4-C are wrong, which is why I felt like it. My apologies for possible misunderstanding, really.
And yes, tiers indeed do matter to me, I can’t deny it. Most of the time it was more of a self-irony when I was talking on how many pages Ninjago threads expand.
 
That's fine, it's just that I'm not sure why the mergequakes aren't lower tier uni. The big merge and the merge quake storm both scale to 17x uni, so the ninja getting uni+ or low multi off of this still keeps the series power hierarchy intact, and moreover we know that single quakes only occur because of one universe attempting to crash into another. So, the ninja closing the quake is equivalent to stopping a universe's motion.
 
JJSliderman said:
That's fine, it's just that I'm not sure why the mergequakes aren't lower tier uni. The big merge and the merge quake storm both scale to 17x uni, so the ninja getting uni+ or low multi off of this still keeps the series power hierarchy intact, and moreover we know that single quakes only occur because of one universe attempting to crash into another. So, the ninja closing the quake is equivalent to stopping a universe's motion.
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I think they are, collectively, doing a Tier 2 feat. I don't think closing one requires Tier 2 strength, or at least no evidence strongly suggests this as the case.
 
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TheOrangeGuy09 said:
Okay, but no-one directly mentioned it nor gave an argument to why the reasons provided there to scale fully to 4-C are wrong, which is why I felt like it. My apologies for possible misunderstanding, really.
And yes, tiers indeed do matter to me, I can’t deny it. Most of the time it was more of a self-irony when I was talking on how many pages Ninjago threads expand.
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Also even if Low 4-C was accepted, it would affect nearly no profile of the verse, since Oni Mask Mr E was able to overpower the Ninjas, and he was stated to be 2x stronger with the mask (which makes a lot of sense bc Oni Mask are meant to amp the user) so he'd be 4-C. Lloyd scale to that via one tapping Mr E out of his Mask of Vengeance form. The Ninjas would later on scale to this as well as they were shown to be reletive to each other, consistant with the fact EMs gets stronger overtime + Zane and Kai scaling to Griefbringer who scale to Lloyd. At best, nobody after S7 would be Low 4-C
 
Lloydblitzed said:
Also even if Low 4-C was accepted, it would affect nearly no profile of the verse, since Oni Mask Mr E was able to overpower the Ninjas, and he was stated to be 2x stronger with the mask (which makes a lot of sense bc Oni Mask are meant to amp the user) so he'd be 4-C. Lloyd scale to that via one tapping Mr E out of his Mask of Vengeance form. The Ninjas would later on scale to this as well as they were shown to be reletive to each other, consistant with the fact EMs gets stronger overtime + Zane and Kai scaling to Griefbringer who scale to Lloyd. At best, nobody after S7 would be Low 4-C
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This doesnt mean Mr E is literally doubling in power, its just meaning he has two extra arms.
 
Its saying someone with two extra arms would be stronger than someone who only has two, not a literal doubling in power
 
Minaaaa said:
Its saying someone with two extra arms would be stronger than someone who only has two, not a literal doubling in power
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No, its saying he will be twice as powerful by gaining those 2 arms when he'll put it on to face his enemies
 
Yes, twice as powerful because he has two extra arms. Its not a literal statement
 
because it isnt a literal multiplier, hes just gaining two extra arms (and it still wouldnt make them 4-C anyways)
 
Minaaaa said:
because it isnt a literal multiplier, hes just gaining two extra arms
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Via what? Nothing says nor imply he is "just gaining 2 arms", in fact nothing goes against him being twice as powerful via Oni Mask
Minaaaa said:
(and it still wouldnt make them 4-C anyways)
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Yes it would, if dividing 4-C in half makes them Low 4-C, the opposite puts them back at 4-C
 
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TheOrangeGuy09 said:
Gaining extra two arms evidently makes one more powerful like Garmadon in Season 1.
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This is backed up like way too many times too (for Garmadon)

(Funny enough, anyone in the show who grew 2 arms in the show got stronger [Ex: GOL, Garmadon, Mr E] )
Minaaaa said:
because it isnt a literal multiplier, hes just gaining two extra arms (and it still wouldnt make them 4-C anyways)
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The masks grants incredible power to the user, so again there's litterally nothing suggesting the 2x thing is wrong. The scan says "the mask will grow two extra arms so that you would be TWICE AS POWERFUL WHEN OPPOSING YOUR ENEMY", which means the user grows 2x stronger by gaining 2 arms when he puts on the mask to fight off someone
 
Lloydblitzed said:
How?

Can u explain how stopping the Realms fusion not require Tier 2 strength? They aren't only closing Mergequakes, they are directly stopping the action of 2 Realms trying to merge togheter via powers, there is evidences for that in the show
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Respectfully? I could, but it's something I've already gone over. Your evidence for Mergequakes being symptoms of a Tier 2 feat is good, your evidence of closing one requiring Tier 2 strength is bad.

I'm unfollowing the thread. My vote stands.
 
Lloydblitzed said:
This is backed up like way too many times too (for Garmadon)

(Funny enough, anyone in the show who grew 2 arms in the show got stronger [Ex: GOL, Garmadon, Mr E] )

The masks grants incredible power to the user, so again there's litterally nothing suggesting the 2x thing is wrong. The scan says "the mask will grow two extra arms so that you would be TWICE AS POWERFUL WHEN OPPOSING YOUR ENEMY", which means the user grows 2x stronger by gaining 2 arms when he puts on the mask to fight off someone
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No... it means having two additional arms makes you stronger than someone with only two arms. This wouldn't even change their rating and theyd still be low 4-c. This discussion is dropped as going on more back and forth posts on an already long post is annoying
 
Minaaaa said:
No... it means having two additional arms makes you stronger than someone with only two arms.
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There's nothing suggesting that, and the statements I just sent goes against that logic. Also there's those statements saying Lloyd is 120% stronger then single ninja (and 20% stronger then all of them reunited) which was made at the time of S7 and S6, which would bring us to the same conclusion as (120% of 68.033 Quettatons) + 68.033 = 149,6726 Quettatons which is above the baseline of 4-C. And using the 20% statement, we'd need to multiply 68.033 Quettatons by 5 as we are talking about all the other Ninjas togheter, and then add 20% of that, which gives: ( (68.033 x 5) x 20%) + 68.033 = 408,198 Quettatons which levels him higher into 4-C
Minaaaa said:
This wouldn't even change their rating and theyd still be low 4-c.
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They are Low 4-C bc we divide the baseline of 4-C (136.066 quettaton) in half, which gives us 68.033 Quettatons. Multiply this value by 2 and u get 136.066 Quettatons again, which is 4-C. No one scales to the baseline of Low 4-C (7.505 quettatons) in the verse

And Shatterspin multiplier will place the Ninjas and Cinder at 4-C as well anyways, Current Garmadon and Mogra still keeps their 4-B as well,
 
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Mr. Bambu said:
Respectfully? I could, but it's something I've already gone over. Your evidence for Mergequakes being symptoms of a Tier 2 feat is good, your evidence of closing one requiring Tier 2 strength is bad.

I'm unfollowing the thread. My vote stands.
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Aight
 
Lloydblitzed said:
There's nothing suggesting that, and the statements I just sent goes against that logic. Also there's those statements saying Lloyd is 120% stronger then single ninja (and 20% stronger then all of them reunited) which was made at the time of S7 and S6, which would bring us to the same conclusion as (120% of 68.033 Quettatons) + 68.033 = 149,6726 Quettatons which is above the baseline of 4-C. And using the 20% statement, we'd need to multiply 68.033 Quettatons by 5 as we are talking about all the other Ninjas togheter, and then add 20% of that, which gives: ( (68.033 x 5) x 20%) + 68.033 = 408,198 Quettatons which levels him higher into 4-C

They are Low 4-C bc we divide the baseline of 4-C (136.066 quettaton) in half, which gives us 68.033 Quettatons. Multiply this value by 2 and u get 136.066 Quettatons again, which is 4-C. No one scales to the baseline of Low 4-C (7.505 quettatons) in the verse
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This is entirely wrong and i wont be going on more long threads explaining why. Itll be handled in a separate thread
 
Minaaaa said:
Star Tiering
This has been talked bout endlessly in the last thread for pages so i hope to solve it with a compromised rating. This was brough up by another user and i agree with it since the feat is so vauge. The whole verse (Excluding god tiers) will get the At least 6-A, possibly Low 4-C+ rating (6-A rating being a placeholder for a different feat)
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Must be higher than 6-A Must be upgrade to:
Amplifier:
 
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As i said, everything will be handled in another thread as to not clog this one up more
 
Do whatever you want, but I still am and will forever be standing with this blog. Its points have never been refuted fully, just "outlier" and "they fused" here and there while ignoring the actual evidence provided for the sake of downgrading the verse. And at this point I just don't care — it looks like the verse is going to die anyways.
 
Dude this thread is 9 pages long, it doesnt need to keep going on longer. As i said, itll be handled in a separate thread. If you cant be patient and wait then thats not my problem
 
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