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Ninjago's Tiering 2
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This has been going for over a month now...
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If that's the case, then yeah, probably. Still, the feat itself is fine.
Garrixian isn't evaluating staff, she's a Content Moderator. I understand it may be confusing, her admin role is for Joke Battles Wiki. So the vote is currently 1:1, although if DDM agrees with the Star level stuff, that at least could go through.
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Tbf I think you only really need to divide the feat in half, each of the ninja can scale to the combo of the golden weapons, or the Megaweapon, which both do half the work.
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How would that even make sense....
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I still don’t see a valid refutation of the blog I made, but I feel that it’s gonna be forever ignored, so whatever
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I read your blog in making my decision. It is what led me to accept the feat as valid in the first place.
You guys seem distinctly at odds with yourselves. You want to battle for every inch of tiers you can get but also want to complain about the duration of the arguing. I have to speak on a shitload of threads that still want me to evaluate them. So respectfully, I don't have the time to banter with you back and forth about Ninjago. I read the compiled evidence and the summary posts in addition to what I read the last time I was here.
People are allowed to disagree, mang. My vote sits where it sits.
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Okay, but no-one directly mentioned it nor gave an argument to why the reasons provided there to scale fully to 4-C are wrong, which is why I felt like it. My apologies for possible misunderstanding, really.
And yes, tiers indeed do matter to me, I can’t deny it. Most of the time it was more of a self-irony when I was talking on how many pages Ninjago threads expand.
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That's fine, it's just that I'm not sure why the mergequakes aren't lower tier uni. The big merge and the merge quake storm both scale to 17x uni, so the ninja getting uni+ or low multi off of this still keeps the series power hierarchy intact, and moreover we know that single quakes only occur because of one universe attempting to crash into another. So, the ninja closing the quake is equivalent to stopping a universe's motion.
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I think they are, collectively, doing a Tier 2 feat. I don't think closing one requires Tier 2 strength, or at least no evidence strongly suggests this as the case.
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How?
Can u explain how stopping the Realms fusion not require Tier 2 strength? They aren't only closing Mergequakes, they are directly stopping the action of 2 Realms trying to merge togheter via powers, there is evidences for that in the show
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Also even if Low 4-C was accepted, it would affect nearly no profile of the verse, since Oni Mask Mr E was able to overpower the Ninjas, and he was stated to be 2x stronger with the mask (which makes a lot of sense bc Oni Mask are meant to amp the user) so he'd be 4-C. Lloyd scale to that via one tapping Mr E out of his Mask of Vengeance form. The Ninjas would later on scale to this as well as they were shown to be reletive to each other, consistant with the fact EMs gets stronger overtime + Zane and Kai scaling to Griefbringer who scale to Lloyd. At best, nobody after S7 would be Low 4-C
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They clearly meant he's doubling in power as well as gaining 2 extra arm, read the full sentence
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No, its saying he will be twice as powerful by gaining those 2 arms when he'll put it on to face his enemies
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How does it invalide the Amp? he's getting 2x stronger by gaining his 2 arms via Oni power
Explain how its not "a litteral statement". Oni Masks are litterally meant to be an amp
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Via what? Nothing says nor imply he is "just gaining 2 arms", in fact nothing goes against him being twice as powerful via Oni Mask
Yes it would, if dividing 4-C in half makes them Low 4-C, the opposite puts them back at 4-C
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Gaining extra two arms evidently makes one more powerful like Garmadon in Season 1.
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This is backed up like way too many times too (for Garmadon)
(Funny enough, anyone in the show who grew 2 arms in the show got stronger [Ex: GOL, Garmadon, Mr E] )
The masks grants incredible power to the user, so again there's litterally nothing suggesting the 2x thing is wrong. The scan says "the mask will grow two extra arms so that you would be TWICE AS POWERFUL WHEN OPPOSING YOUR ENEMY", which means the user grows 2x stronger by gaining 2 arms when he puts on the mask to fight off someone
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Respectfully? I could, but it's something I've already gone over. Your evidence for Mergequakes being symptoms of a Tier 2 feat is good, your evidence of closing one requiring Tier 2 strength is bad.
I'm unfollowing the thread. My vote stands.
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No... it means having two additional arms makes you stronger than someone with only two arms. This wouldn't even change their rating and theyd still be low 4-c. This discussion is dropped as going on more back and forth posts on an already long post is annoying
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There's nothing suggesting that, and the statements I just sent goes against that logic. Also there's those statements saying Lloyd is 120% stronger then single ninja (and 20% stronger then all of them reunited) which was made at the time of S7 and S6, which would bring us to the same conclusion as (120% of 68.033 Quettatons) + 68.033 = 149,6726 Quettatons which is above the baseline of 4-C. And using the 20% statement, we'd need to multiply 68.033 Quettatons by 5 as we are talking about all the other Ninjas togheter, and then add 20% of that, which gives: ( (68.033 x 5) x 20%) + 68.033 = 408,198 Quettatons which levels him higher into 4-C
They are Low 4-C bc we divide the baseline of 4-C (136.066 quettaton) in half, which gives us 68.033 Quettatons. Multiply this value by 2 and u get 136.066 Quettatons again, which is 4-C. No one scales to the baseline of Low 4-C (7.505 quettatons) in the verse
And Shatterspin multiplier will place the Ninjas and Cinder at 4-C as well anyways, Current Garmadon and Mogra still keeps their 4-B as well,
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Aight
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kinda funny coming from someone saying 2x Half of 4-C isn't 4-C
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Must be higher than 6-A Must be upgrade to:
- Cole: Cole can create 89 Borg strong Earth quake, which should be High 6-A - 1.301 exaton (thanks for @Lloydblitzed an Calculation)
- TGW: Stated to be create and destroy Multiple Planet. 5-B level. Also TGW created continent, which can upgrade to Low 5-B (need official calculation evaluation requests thread)
- Lloyd: Cole states that Lloyd is more powerful than all the ninja combined. Lloyd is stated to be 120% of the ninja, so 120%x5 (number of Ninja)= 6. So he is 6x more powerful than the ninja.
- Shatterspin: Shatterspin is stated to be can increase that AP to 10 times more strong than before. So most be Wolf Mask Clan and Cinder with Shatterspin upgrade to 10 times more strong than before
- TMV: Stated to be can increase that AP to twice times more strong than before. So Mr E with Mask of Vengeance upgrade to twice times more strong than before.
- Garmadon and Mogra: Garmadon drank 4 Two Moon Tea and drinking one tea of the moon tea increases his strength by 10 times so it should be 10×10×10×10=10,000 so Garmadon increased his AP by 10,000 times. Mogra can comparable to Garmadon and even take full blast from Garmadon, so should be his AP up to 10,000 times, and he drunk 5 Two Moon Tea, which means 10,000×10×10×10×10×10=1,000,000,000 so it must be upgrade to 1,000,000,000 times more strong than before.
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Wrong pic for the TGW scan lol, also the Borg calc is assuming 1 Borg = 1 Magnitude of the Ritcher scale
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Do whatever you want, but I still am and will forever be standing with this blog. Its points have never been refuted fully, just "outlier" and "they fused" here and there while ignoring the actual evidence provided for the sake of downgrading the verse. And at this point I just don't care — it looks like the verse is going to die anyways.
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It can't be handled in another thread with you telling us Multiplying half of 4-C by 2 doesn't get us 4-C again to start with.
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Oh Yh sorry
