Powers & Abilities Evaluations Thread

[deonment]

That's what he is saying. He isn't simply lacking existance, he is opposing it.

Yeah, which is type 1, its just that sometimes type 2s are characterized by also opposing or predating existence, being the primal void of either nothingness or chaos from which everything came

 

[Rikimarox2]

Energy would be info type 2 if laws are type 2 since it makes it up, but it energy in-of-itself doesn't have to be info type 2 or the stuff like that to be as if not more fundamental than said stuff

Didn't really understand the bolded part, could you clarify more? Everything in the world is created by energy, so if they also make laws which should be type 2, wouldn't they be more fundamental?

Nope, as NEP nature 2 is qualified by being a even more "empty" void than even things which are normally nonexistent

Would a thing that is the very anti-thesis to Energy (Which is basically existence) and opposes it not be considered that? Additionally, considering that Energy also makes Laws (Which are now probably also concepts, since I was just informed that another verse the creator of novel made is connected to this novel, and they call Laws, well, concepts, and energy encompasses all concepts), wouldn't a thing that directly goes against it (Explicitly as well) be type 2, or even that is not enough for Type 2?

Yeah, which is type 1, its just that sometimes type 2s are characterized by also opposing or predating existence, being the primal void of either nothingness or chaos from which everything came

Funnily enough, the Law of Death (Aka the antithesis) comes from something similar, the Primordial Chaos:

Gravis knew what this was. The feeling of danger of this grey force was the most intense feeling of danger Gravis had ever felt in his entire life. It was Primordial Chaos. The grey force was Primordial Chaos! It was a mixture of many different forces, including Death and Energy. It was everything! It was something and nothing at once!

Not sure if this changes anything, but might as well post it.

 

[deonment]

Didn't really understand the bolded part, could you clarify more? Everything in the world is created by energy, so if they also make laws which should be type 2, wouldn't they be more fundamental?

Yeah, I'm just saying it doesn't necessitate energy in of itself being like info type 2 or whatever, manipulating it is still info type 2 or whatever since it is the basis of those things, but it doesn't require it to be anything but energy to be more fundamental than it

Would a thing that is the very anti-thesis to Energy (Which is basically existence) and opposes it not be considered that? Additionally, considering that Energy also makes Laws (Which are now probably also concepts, since I was just informed that another verse the creator of novel made is connected to this novel, and they call Laws, well, concepts, and energy encompasses all concepts), wouldn't a thing that directly goes against it (Explicitly as well) be type 2, or even that is not enough for Type 2?

Nah, to make use of an analogy, if Existence is 1, and NEP 1 is -1, then NEP 2 is 0, it needs to be more nonexistent on a fundamental level than existence and nonexistence

Funnily enough, the Law of Death (Aka the antithesis) comes from something similar, the Primordial Chaos:

Not sure if this changes anything, but might as well post it.

Nah, primordial chaos would be NEP 1 and 3 if anything