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Powers & Abilities Evaluations Thread

Is it still Acausality Type 3 if a being is stated to belong to all infinite timelines equally, but there's no evidence that entails they can act through their alternate iterations?
 
What ability is this? It definitely NEP. But I am not so sure about the specific.
He didn’t wish to drag his children, who lived their limited lives so earnestly, into the endless conflict with INVISIBLE. However, as Eugene persistently insisted, Nobody finally relented.

"Eugene, what does it mean to have a name?"

“Doesn’t it mean that I am myself?”

“If you could no longer remember your name, how would you describe yourself? Next, you would likely say this: that you were born at such a time, with such an appearance, personality, and history leading to the present.”

“Yes, I think I would explain myself that way.”

“What would you do if you forgot even that? Who are you then? If you were someone without a name, without a form, without memory—who would you be?”

“!”

Eugene couldn’t answer. A being that has lost its memory and form… that can no longer be considered truly alive. He realized that one cannot live without a name and form.

And to live is ultimately no different from defining oneself over the course of one’s life.

"You cannot answer. Living means tethering the hollow self with various shackles and distinguishing it from others. Names, appearances, histories, personalities—these are all elements of your identity, yet also bonds that hold you. Being called by name and tethering that hollow self with those bonds, confining it within a framework, saves you from the fear of 'perhaps I do not exist.' To seek to 'be someone' necessitates closure. Death is inevitable… and in that way, life is completed. It’s a truly impermanent, beautiful act.”

Ogigo said this with a sense of envy. As a "being without name or form," he could neither complete life nor experience death. His habit of saying, "I want to die," was filled with both a thirst for life and a longing for death, irresponsible and decadent as it was.

While Eugene and the other Sun Gods viewed Ogigo as “unfit for a god,” they were sorely mistaken. He understood life better than anyone, yet he did not know death.

“Then, could one who doesn’t seek to be anything surpass death?”

Eugene asked, though he hadn’t fully organized his thoughts. If Ogigo changed his mind and closed his mouth again, the perfect opportunity would be lost.

“I, and INVISIBLE, are such beings. Our true nature is nothingness, but conversely, that also means ‘we can be anything.’ The smallest is the greatest, nothing is everything. The beginning of the primordial universe was the energy of fluctuations probabilistically arising from nothing. That is the nature of beings like us.”
 
Alright so, in a novel I'm reading, characters can affect/interact with a void, but they can't interact with a character that was considered Nothingness since they comprehended nothingness. Said nothingness is similar/is Wuiji, the whole Chinese "There was Wuiji then Taiji then yin yang then five elements then everything else"
So, I was wondering, would the character who is nothingness be NEP1 or NEP2?
 
Alright so, in a novel I'm reading, characters can affect/interact with a void, but they can't interact with a character that was considered Nothingness since they comprehended nothingness. Said nothingness is similar/is Wuiji, the whole Chinese "There was Wuiji then Taiji then yin yang then five elements then everything else"
So, I was wondering, would the character who is nothingness be NEP1 or NEP2?
Yeah, maybe
send scans tho
 
Got an item in-verse that basically runs on One Ring rules, it would take the characters hundreds of years to destroy the trinket via any means (one of these people have a deus ex machina sword which has stats so absurdly high compared to everyone else that it can normally cut through anything). Would that qualify as invulnerability and would the singular means of destroying it (a very specific supernatural fire) have Invulnerability Negation?
 
Would this just be simple "Invisibility", or is there anything more we can grant?:
After using healing crystals to heal all her injuries, Fang Lijuan used the power of the Invisible Talisman to disappear again; this time, however, it was not just as simple as her body becoming invisible.

Her blood, skin, muscles, organs, bones, Divine Sea, aura, and even her souls became invisible. She was completely gone. And Li Jun could not track her existence at all.
The Invisible Talisman was famous because of the words that the Talisman Ancestor said after creating it. According to her, the highest level of this talisman can allow a cultivator to reach a state of being "unknown to death, nor known to life."
Additionally, she was shown using the "Invisibility" as an attack, sort of, by making all the senses of her opponent disappear:
After becoming invisible, Fang Lijuan did not attack Li Jun immediately but said: "Many people believe that the Invisible Talisman can only allow this Goddess to become invisible, but it can also affect my enemy.

"Now, God of War Li Jun," pronouncing the phrase "God of War" with the utmost disdain. "Let's see how you react when all your senses--including taste, smell, sight, touch, sound, and Divine Sense--become invisible."

Her voice echoed throughout the fighting arena, seeming to be coming everywhere and nowhere at the same time.

Immediately afterward, Li Jun knelt on the floor while grunting painfully. He discovered that his vision became black, he could not smell the surrounding environment, his mouth had a bland aftertaste that was impossible to get rid of.

He could not feel anything or any part of his body. Even though he knew that he was half kneeling, he could not feel the sensation of the ground; no, it was more than that. He could not feel any part of his body, whether it was his limbs, muscles, or skin; it was like he was an empty form of consciousness without a physical body.

He tried to sense his soul in his Sea of Consciousness or used his Divine Sense, but he could not feel the existence of any of these things as well.
Also, do people who see her get extrasensory perception, resistance (?) to invisibility, or smth else?
 
Would this just be simple "Invisibility", or is there anything more we can grant?:


Additionally, she was shown using the "Invisibility" as an attack, sort of, by making all the senses of her opponent disappear:
Also, do people who see her get extrasensory perception, resistance (?) to invisibility, or smth else?
They get enhanced senses. She gets enhanced invisibility, stealthy mastery, and should be immune to death manip and life manip while using it.
 
Would this just be simple "Invisibility", or is there anything more we can grant?:


Additionally, she was shown using the "Invisibility" as an attack, sort of, by making all the senses of her opponent disappear:
Also, do people who see her get extrasensory perception, resistance (?) to invisibility, or smth else?
Invisibility, stealth mastery and resistance to Extrasensory Perception, life manipulation and death manipulation {Maybe also immortality type 5, depending on how it works} (Anything that detects aura/divine senses/souls is extrasensory perception if not done through a normal sense)

Perception Manipulation and extrasensory perception nullification (Can nullify normal senses, as well as other ones, like soul sense and divine sense, by turning them invisible.
 
Ok, gonna be honest, got a completely insane one this time

Got a character who has full control over the machine he's in, everything, and when he dies he's capable of just doing this shit. Time manipulation and Information Manipulation are no brainers but what immortality do I use to even describe him being able to do this in the first place?
 
Ok, gonna be honest, got a completely insane one this time

Got a character who has full control over the machine he's in, everything, and when he dies he's capable of just doing this shit. Time manipulation and Information Manipulation are no brainers but what immortality do I use to even describe him being able to do this in the first place?
Whats happening here
 
Whats happening here
Basically, Mamo gets killed (I don't have the killing shot but based on visuals alone I can easily assume he got sliced in half by Goemon) which he then proceeds to just stop everything, slowly approaches the player, and then just force everything to continue as he then goes on to basically rant to the player and fuel their desires for his benefit
 
Basically, Mamo gets killed (I don't have the killing shot but based on visuals alone I can easily assume he got sliced in half by Goemon) which he then proceeds to just stop everything, slowly approaches the player, and then just force everything to continue as he then goes on to basically rant to the player and fuel their desires for his benefit
So he used time manip to undo the death?
 
Still need an answer on this, but for something simplier

Does a character wearing bulletproof clothing fall under any ability? Like if they get shot in a specific area they can just survive it with no damage thanks to the added protection.
For the first, ig type 3 immo since he's resurrecting himself

And no, that's just dura
 
Yeah, maybe
send scans tho
Kinda late to this, since I didn't have the majority of the scans, but here are the scans:
After saying this, he pointed his hand towards Yan Chen and the Asura behind him did the same movement. Following this, a dark-colored mini sun appeared in the palm of the Asura.

The temperature of the sun was so high that it started burning the void the moment it appeared. The space around Ji Qiang began to twist as the heat simply incinerated it.

Furthermore, the voice isn't just like, outer space or something like, since the void is mentioned when the fabric of space gets destroyed:
The grounds underneath, the clouds in the sky, and even the very fabric of space were broken and swallowed by this fish bird's mouth. The only exception being Wang Wei.
He looked at the gigantic creature in front of him that was covering most of the sky and muttered: "The mythical creature Kunpeng? I thought this kind of creature no longer exists in the Myriad Emperor World along with Dragons and Phoenixes?"
He looked around and noticed that he was standing in the void since the space around him was swallowed. - Ch. 283

Gao Buqin did not believe in this evil and used even more sophisticated methods.

His golding palm turned into a Yin-Yang Diagram as he tried to forcefully revert Yan Liling out of her current state, changing her from an intangible form to a tangible one.

Unfortunately for him, Yan Liling created that pill using Wang Wei's power of Nothingness. As such, its essence is not simply intangibility but the concept of nothingness.

Gao Buqin then changed tactics as his Weapon Body changed, taking the properties of a rare Time Artifact. Then, he attempted to revert Yan Liling to a few minutes prior when she was not in such a potent state.

His attempt failed as nothing can affect nothingness–not even time.

However, Gao Buqin currently had the mindset of a fool due to his desire to end this battle as his master ordered. As such, he did not believe he could not succeed.

He then chooses to attack Yan Liling's past self; by killing that version, he can eliminate the present version.

Alas, this method also failed. One of the properties of nothingness is its infiniteness, which transcends time. So, such a technique might have worked on past Wang Wei, who had little to no mastery of the Power of Nothingness.

But it was different for his current self.

'What is this strange technique?' cursed Gao Buqin internally. He could not find her past self to kill; to be precise, her past seemed to be this vast, even infinite, grand emptiness, devoid of life, matter, space-time, energy, or even concepts known to the mind.

The MC using Wuji stuff to enter Nothingness:
'What a great technique,' he commented. Such a technique was beyond anything he had created. Although he could tell, it was only possible because of Di Tian's countless reincarnations and time spent researching Samsara.'Unfortunately, you're too late.'
He used Wuji Dao to bless his fleshly body, temporarily entering the second stage of nothingness: [Void].
The explanation of Wuji:
'Wuji, meaning without limits, without boundaries: boundless. A state of non-distinction, nothingness before the Tao–or the manifestation of everything came into being.
'The Laws of Wuji contained properties of nothingness. Its very definition of beings without limits, distinction, or boundaries can also apply to nothingness.'
Wang Wei opened his eyes, full of wisdom and containing the universe's fundamental truth. After this enlightenment, his body had subtle and unnoticeable changes.
[Wuji to Taiji: Stillness to Motion]
Wuji represented the state of the universe before its birth, a state of stillness that embodied the concept of nonexistent. Then, from nothingness was born something; Dao gave birth to one, one gave birth to two, two gave birth to three, and three gave birth to myriad things in existence. These words perfectly encapsulated the process of Wuji transforming into Taiji, a process in which nothingness (stillness) created something (motion).
Not sure if this would qualify as NEP2. Not to mention, there are stages to this non-existence stuff, 4 stages to be exact, and even the first stage alone already makes him non-existent to everything, including the laws of the world.

Also, concepts/daos are type 1 concepts here. Not sure if Wuji stuff could give anything tiering wise, especially since I'm not sure yet if concepts are indivisible in the verse yet or not.
 
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Would this qualify for Type 2 Info Manip?:
The concept of Array Virus was actually based on Wang Wei's past life. When he was studying Array or Formation, he discovered that runes were similar to computer code--which could be used to code reality itself. - Ch. 235
"This method not only made up for my lack of talent in soul power, but it also dramatically increased my affinity for runes. When I blended into Heaven and Earth, I entered an entire world made only of runes. From the soil in the ground, to the trees in the forest, to the blowing wind in the air, everything was made of runes. It was truly magical." - Ch. 59
And if it does, would characters that are able to use to do things like Sealing, Power Null, or generally anything that directly uses it, be granted Info type 2?

Also, if the verse has things that are considered more abstract than it, ie Law in general are considered more abstract than Runes/Info, what would that entail? I remember reading smth about abstractions and stuff, but man I was not paying that much attention back then.
 
Would this qualify for Type 2 Info Manip?:


And if it does, would characters that are able to use to do things like Sealing, Power Null, or generally anything that directly uses it, be granted Info type 2?

Also, if the verse has things that are considered more abstract than it, ie Law in general are considered more abstract than Runes/Info, what would that entail? I remember reading smth about abstractions and stuff, but man I was not paying that much attention back then.
Yeah, that seems like type 2 info yeah

It means its more fundamental than it, in the same way as it is to "normal" existence
 
Would adding/removing something from a concept still grant concept manip even if the concept itself doesn’t change?
 
Once the process was done, Wang Wei had 1.269 trillion spirit particles fused with a cell inside his body. Then, he began to instill his emotions, ideas, goals, and philosophies into the particles. - Ch. 388
Once the baptism was finished, Wang Wei immediately knew the benefit of this. The advantage of his [True Primordial Spirit]--as he called it--is that as long as one of the spirit particles is intact, he can revive himself with the right amount of resources. Or if it is destroyed, as long as his body is intact, since they are connected, he can recreate his Primordial Spirit. In order words, to kill Wang Wei, you have to destroy instantly destroy his fleshly body and Primordial Spirit.
What kind of regeneration would this be? Basically, the character melted his soul and made particles/cells of it, and as long as even one cell remains, he can regenerate his soul. The problem is that he isn't regenerating from complete destruction of the soul, so I'm not sure what kind of regen would this be. Also, ignore the whole "need resources" and "Revive" stuff, the dude pretty much shows he can regenerate even without resources later on.

Additionally, the "Primordial Spirit" is both the mind and the soul.
 
What kind of regeneration would this be? Basically, the character melted his soul and made particles/cells of it, and as long as even one cell remains, he can regenerate his soul. The problem is that he isn't regenerating from complete destruction of the soul, so I'm not sure what kind of regen would this be. Also, ignore the whole "need resources" and "Revive" stuff, the dude pretty much shows he can regenerate even without resources later on.

Additionally, the "Primordial Spirit" is both the mind and the soul.
high with soul.
 
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