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Powers & Abilities Evaluations Thread

Rikimarox2 said:
What kind of regeneration would this be? Basically, the character melted his soul and made particles/cells of it, and as long as even one cell remains, he can regenerate his soul. The problem is that he isn't regenerating from complete destruction of the soul, so I'm not sure what kind of regen would this be. Also, ignore the whole "need resources" and "Revive" stuff, the dude pretty much shows he can regenerate even without resources later on.

Additionally, the "Primordial Spirit" is both the mind and the soul.
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Type 8 immo too
 
While he was thinking about how things might go wrong with his plan and how to fix it, Wang Wei suddenly opened his eyes.
"Some is trying to calculate my secrets?" After checking what it was, he discovered that it was a form of divination that did not rely on the power of faith. Instead, it relied on Yin and Yang, or the constant changes of the universe to calculate the secrets of Heaven.
Essentially, it is the same method of divination using a different Dao. After sensing this power, Wang Wei immediately blocked it while at the same time tracking it back to its source. Then, he saw an old man with his head and beard entirely white. He was dressed in coarse linen clothes that only peasant mortals would wear. After seeing the old man who had a terrifying look on his face, Wang Wei snorted coldly, making him spit a big mouthful of blood before breaking the calculation. - Ch. 406
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What would this qualify as? Cosmic Awareness? Resistance to Info analysis or Precog or smth?
 
After all, who was Wu Hong? Can the wedding of such a person be ordinary? Plus, Heavenly Dao did not have emotions and did not care that much whether cultivators respected it or not. At least when they are not detrimental to the order of the world.
After the ceremony was the wedding party where everybody tried to get both the broom and the bride drunk. Wang Tian set the rule that no one can use their Origin Essence to remove the alcohol from their bodies, and even asked Wu Hong to seal the fleshly bodies of the body refiners to remove their natural resistance to alcohol. - Ch. 432
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Can this be considered as Resistance Negation or smth? The character in question (Wu Hong) can seal the resistances to alcohol from people.
Said character can also seal injuries (not as in, sealing it like closing a wound, but literally seal an "injury" in an abstract sense in order to make someone better), seal the taste of something and put in something else, seal the laws of heaven and earth, seal the talent of someone, seal the pain of someone, etc... I'm not sure what this would be aside from just sealing. Maybe concept type 3?
 
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I'm back yet again : D
The next stage in the Primordial Spirit Realm is the Three Immortal Soul Stage. The Soul consists of the Three Immortal Souls (Hun Souls) and Seven Physical Souls (Po Souls). The physical soul is the yin in nature and controls the body–including the five internal organs and Nine Orifices. The Po souls governed health or the body's instincts to fight diseases.

For example, the "Thief Swallower" is the Po soul that regulates the body's immune system. The "Flying Poison" controls the body temperature, and the "Hidden Arrow" controls digestion.

In the Primordial Spirit Realm, it is the turn of the Three Immortal Souls: [The Secret Spirit], [The Fetus's Light], and the [Bright Spirit].
Wang Wei focused intensely on his Primordial Spirit, entering a profound state of meditation. He reflected on himself, his actions, motives, and goals in life.

And at some point, he discovered three threads connected from his Primordial Spirit to three illusory figures of himself. Numerous colors surrounded the first figure while rotating around him. Each color represented a different emotion: this was the [Secret Spirit], It determined a person's mood, likes and dislikes, and what kind of person they attracted to–both romantically and platonically. In general, this part of the soul correlates to people's emotions and how they change or manifest when interacting with others. 'This Immortal Soul might also be connected to Karma. Using it, I could make someone falls in love with another person and connect them through Karma.'

He then looked at the second illusory figure of him. It had the number [6, 345, 921] on top of its head: This was the [Fetus's Light], the source of life force, and the number on top is Wang Wei's current life span.

Finally, he looked at the last figure, which was entirely purple. However, he quickly noticed another odd thing besides the color: it had chains all over its body. The [Bright Spirit Soul] controlled intelligence, wisdom, and creativity: This is the primary source determining a cultivator's comprehension. Any changes in it could positively and negatively affect the intellect.
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Would these grant anything for souls? For additional Information, the Soul is located inside a Cultivator's Sea of Consciousness, which is like a pocket dimension inside their head. Additionally, [Bright Spirit Soul] is where memories and stuff are.
 
Rikimarox2 said:
Would these grant anything for souls? For additional Information, the Soul is located inside a Cultivator's Sea of Consciousness, which is like a pocket dimension inside their head. Additionally, [Bright Spirit Soul] is where memories and stuff are.
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Soul is/encompasses the mind and life force and depending on how the karma thing works, could also be some form of causality stuff, and would give them unconventional resistance to the aforementioned aspects
 
deonment said:
Soul is/encompasses the mind and life force and depending on how the karma thing works, could also be some form of causality stuff, and would give them unconventional resistance to the aforementioned aspects
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If the Soul in question also contains things that grant the user conceptual powers, with said thing also being conceptual, would that make the soul AE1, or nah?

Basically, in the verse, cultivators condense Law Seed inside their soul, and with the Law Seed, they can use the power of Laws/Concepts, and they were stated to be "Beings of Law", and even were stated to be "Pseudo Conceptual beings", so would that be enough evidence to assume their Souls are AE1 of Laws/Concepts?
 
Rikimarox2 said:
If the Soul in question also contains things that grant the user conceptual powers, with said thing also being conceptual, would that make the soul AE1, or nah?

Basically, in the verse, cultivators condense Law Seed inside their soul, and with the Law Seed, they can use the power of Laws/Concepts, and they were stated to be "Beings of Law", and even were stated to be "Pseudo Conceptual beings", so would that be enough evidence to assume their Souls are AE1 of Laws/Concepts?
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Maybe?
I don't exactly like it unless the seed being condensed causes a change within the soul itself, but if it does then yeah, but only for said key and on
 
deonment said:
Maybe?
I don't exactly like it unless the seed being condensed causes a change within the soul itself, but if it does then yeah, but only for said key and on
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We don't got much on what it did except that it made his energy source a thousand time larger, and made the soul purer, whatever that means.

Though the whole soul thing is a bit weird since ignoring the things I posted above like the immortal souls, the soul/spirit itself, at a certain stage, is also made up of Emotions, Ideas, Philosophies, etc... and not just in a metaphorical sense, but literal, since they melt the soul then fuse it with those things. So, I didn't think them having conceptual souls be that far-fetched.
 
Rikimarox2 said:
We don't got much on what it did except that it made his energy source a thousand time larger, and made the soul purer, whatever that means.

Though the whole soul thing is a bit weird since ignoring the things I posted above like the immortal souls, the soul/spirit itself, at a certain stage, is also made up of Emotions, Ideas, Philosophies, etc... and not just in a metaphorical sense, but literal, since they melt the soul then fuse it with those things. So, I didn't think them having conceptual souls be that far-fetched.
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Eh, sure
 
Thank god for this thread 🙏
Anyways, I'm back yet again, and I got a few questions.
Zhen Cho quickly checked his hands to discover a rune that looked like a tattoo on his left hand. And before he could even process where this strange tattoo came from, more and more of these runes appeared all over his body and even his soul.

Wang Wei flew before Zhen Chao, who could not move or speak. As he looked at his inquiring eyes, he said: "Quantum Virus Array. Oh, you may not understand what does that mean.

"I created an array so small that even a Great Emperor might not be able to detect. Then, I gave it the ability to replicate itself like a virus. On our first contact, I planted it inside your body so that it could replicate.

"And every time I injure and force you to heal, the replicating process increase. Unfortunately, when you took my power, my fleshly body's natural residence significantly delayed the process.

"Luckily, I managed to make you lose my power and destroy your body to such a terrible state in the previous explosion. By now, the virus has attached itself to every single subatomic particle of your body and even the very essence of your soul. - Ch. 494
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Basically, MC was able to put something akin to a Virus onto his opponent's body, causing it replicate and attach itself to every single subatomic particle of their body and essence of their soul. Additionally, when the opponent copied the MC's body, the process got delayed significantly due to its strength.
He got this technique after learning about Quantum shenanigans. I assume he can get Matter Manip, or maybe Quantum Manip, but what else? Like maybe some weird corruption, and would his body get resistance?
As for what happened after, we just know the dude straight up just... stopped functioning.

Additionally, what would it mean if something contained information about the body?
Wang Wei nodded his head before his Primordial Spirit jumped into the pool, sat cross-legged, and finally closed his eyes. He regenerated a new body in a few seconds, but it was weak, similar to the ones before he began cultivating the [Ancient Desolate Body Refining Scripture].

As he absorbed more energy from the pool, Wang Wei could feel his skin rapidly temper the level before he blew his body. His soul contained an aura that contained information regarding his previous fleshly body and accelerated the process of returning to its peak. - Ch. 499
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For context, the dude got his body entirely destroyed, but with enough resources, he can quickly regain it back to his peak even though his body previously took thousands of years to be made before, thanks to his Soul containing an aura that contained information regarding his previous body. I assume Info type 1?
Though I don't think unconventional resistance is possible?
 
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What kind of immortality and regeneration is this ?

Gods and other abstract entities could survive the destruction of their soul(info 1&2) and body and exist as pure conception(not info) until they reform their soul and body eventually.

Conception: is a conceptual energy produced from the psyche of every sentient being(belief, wishes, prayer, story, legends... ). It was stated to be similar to a chaotic sea of subconsciousness where ideas are formed.
 
EL_xWatcher1234x said:
What kind of immortality and regeneration is this ?

Gods and other abstract entities could survive the destruction of their soul(info 1&2) and body and exist as pure conception(not info) until they reform their soul and body eventually.

Conception: is a conceptual energy produced from the psyche of every sentient being(belief, wishes, prayer, story, legends... ). It was stated to be similar to a chaotic sea of subconsciousness where ideas are formed.
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This sounds a bit like jargon ngl, the souls info 1&2 okay and then they can regen as they still exist from their conception. This is just low godly unless the mind is a part of the soul. Way I'm seeing this is Body -> Soul -> Mind -> Conception.
 
Arkenis said:
This is just low godly unless the mind is a part of the soul. Way I'm seeing this is Body -> Soul -> Mind -> Conception.
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How is regenerating from their concept after the destruction of info type 2 a low-godly regeneration ?

Conception is what govern their nature and it's more fundamental than info type 2. It represent the concept behind those entities.
 
EL_xWatcher1234x said:
How is regenerating from their concept after the destruction of info type 2 a low-godly regeneration ?
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Because it doesn't say concept, you put "Conception: is a conceptual energy produced from the psyche of every sentient being(belief, wishes, prayer, story, legends... )." Where is it stated its their concept?
And I said it, mid godly is the body, mind, and soul being destroyed. If the mind gets destroyed then yeah its mid godly. And high godly would mean their conception got erased but that doesn't get erased here.

EL_xWatcher1234x said:
Conception is what govern their nature and it's more fundamental than info type 2. It represent the concept behind those entities.
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Okay and they are regenerating their body and soul while in that state, they aren't regenerating that aspect.
 
Arkenis said:
Because it doesn't say concept, you put "Conception: is a conceptual energy produced from the psyche of every sentient being(belief, wishes, prayer, story, legends... )." Where is it stated its their concept?
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What do you think this...mean ?
(yes idea and concepts are a part of that)

They are refer to as ideas and concepts, they govern reality while being independent from it and they are the most fundamental nature of a being.

Not a big deal cause people with strong will or desire can create concepts(type 1) while conception is just choosing quantity over quality. There is even gods resisting CM because they had so much conception from worshipers.

Explaination for HGR:
High-Godly: The ability to regenerate after the erasure of body, mind, soul, and at least one other fundamental aspect of a character's existence. Such an aspect could be their place in the narrative, their history, their information (Type 2), their concept, et cetera. For any aspect to qualify, destruction of that aspect must cause erasure of the character in some form and it must be shown that the character cannot exist without that fundamental aspect existing as well; in addition it must not be something that would ordinarily be restored by regenerating body, mind, or soul. As such, type 3 concepts must be evaluated with care and aspects which are not sufficiently expanded upon to make a judgement will not to qualify.
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“For any aspect to qualify, destruction of that aspect must cause erasure of the character in some form and it must be shown that the character cannot exist without that fundamental aspect existing as well; in addition it must not be something that would ordinarily be restored by regenerating body, mind, or soul.“

In this context the soul is still a soul, I don’t see why it matters if its info 2 or cm2, its still a soul. Unless there’s more clarification or this is a standard then I’m not seeing why it would be high godly or mid godly.

Can they exist without their soul, the thing that got destroyed? Yes, they exist as pure conception, the fundamental aspect of their existence, aka the thing that must be erased and then regenerated from in addition to mind body and soul to qualify for hgr. Right now you haven’t shown that their mind gets erased either.
 
Arkenis said:
Can they exist without their soul, the thing that got destroyed? Yes, they exist as pure conception, the fundamental aspect of their existence, aka the thing that must be erased and then regenerated from in addition to mind body and soul to qualify for hgr. Right now you haven’t shown that their mind gets erased either.
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Again, everyone has a soul and it represent the elements(information) of a being that's why it's info type 2 only gods have conception and they can reform from it.

The soul is gone and that's it, but not for gods. Because they're more fundamental than info type 2 .
 
Arkenis said:
In this context the soul is still a soul, I don’t see why it matters if its info 2 or cm2, its still a soul. Unless there’s more clarification or this is a standard then I’m not seeing why it would be high godly or mid godly.
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The soul in verses can go beyond what is typically expected of a soul y'know. If a soul is type 2 info it 100% deviates from how one would typically define what a soul is. So regenerating it would still be high-godly.
 
BestMGQScalerEver said:
The soul in verses can go beyond what is typically expected of a soul y'know. If a soul is type 2 info it 100% deviates from how one would typically define what a soul is. So regenerating it would still be high-godly.
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Yes I know, I'm saying I'm unsure if that matters for regen its not explicit in the description.
 
One of the distinct aspects of the concept of desolation was its ability to cause ”permanent” damage. As was shown when Villy removed the arm of the one from the Azureflight back in the Order, the concept wouldn’t just erase the arm itself but the part of the Soulshape it usually inhabited. That meant there was no easy way to heal it, and no amount of potions or meditation would help.
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While desolation was an incredibly powerful concept, it was also very limiting. It tended to not work well together with other affinities or concepts due to its nature. In fact, its properties made it so very few creatures natively able to use the affinity existed. In many ways, something being alive or at least possessing a soul was counter-intuitive to the concept in the first place. Desolation was all about not only non-existence but the continued state of non-existence, and a creature existing while being all about non-existence was weird.
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The soul/soulshape is also the concept behind a persons existence
 
Perequeliri993 said:
(wtf is happening here)
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Guy flew into the room, threw knives at the person in the bed, and then gets surprised attacked

Perequeliri993 said:
What others abilities does the character have? Maybe I can get some context from that.
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He's a magician, so it can be damn near anything. He's got teleportation, but that has a noticeably different effect, intangibility, though we don't have a onscreen example, telekinetic forcefields, explosive fire, water manipulation, you get the idea.

This movie is trash but it's unfortunately relevant.
 
Detective_Blizzard said:
Guy flew into the room, threw knives at the person in the bed, and then gets surprised attacked


He's a magician, so it can be damn near anything. He's got teleportation, but that has a noticeably different effect, intangibility, though we don't have a onscreen example, telekinetic forcefields, explosive fire, water manipulation, you get the idea.

This movie is trash but it's unfortunately relevant.
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I actually believe this is either afterimage creation or intangibility. For the first one, it's basically an afterimage received all the bullets while the real one, unperceived, escaped, while the second option is more self-evident.
 
Perequeliri993 said:
I actually believe this is either afterimage creation or intangibility. For the first one, it's basically an afterimage received all the bullets while the real one, unperceived, escaped, while the second option is more self-evident.
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Could be both alongside invisibility now that I think about it
 
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