Possibly upgrade for eternity?

[Lightbuster30]

@The 2nd Existential

"Then faster and faster, all time and space, sprialing away to the first firmament...leaving nothing behind."

Definition of Sprialing: "decrease or deteriorate continuously."

1-A.

>Multi-Eternity broke through chains that were made by the same 1-A (First Firmament) while at his weakest.

>Multi-Eternity burst through the First Firament's body after being compressed from a single multiverse to a single universe and almost devoured & reduced to nothingness.

Those can be considered to be 1-A feats.

That sounds more like a possibly, and since when is destroying space time, even on a High 1-B scale, considered 1-A?

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

That is going to be hectic to scale properly ... I'm not against it though... Just wondering how others will take it.

 

[Lightbuster30]

That is going to be hectic to scale properly ... I'm not against it though... Just wondering how others will take it.

Still don't get how deteriorating space time is 1-A...

 

[Magi_Hussie]

@Lightbuster

"That sounds more like a possibly, and since when is destroying space time, even on a High 1-B scale, considered 1-A?"

No, not really. When all of time and space is mentioned in context being affected, created and/or destroyed, is always undoubtedly 1-A like destroying all of time and space from the outside (which First Firmament is pretty much doing right now) for example.

 

[Lightbuster30]

@Lightbuster

"That sounds more like a possibly, and since when is destroying space time, even on a High 1-B scale, considered 1-A?"

No, not really. When all of time and space is mentioned in context being affected, created and/or destroyed, is always undoubtedly 1-A like destroying all of time and space from the outside (which First Firmament is pretty much doing right now) for example.

Why would destroying space time from an 1-A place make you 1-A? Gonna need to go into details.

 

[Antvasima]

My apologies, but I still see no proof of transcending the concepts of time and space in any of the presented scans.

As such, we should probably close this discussion.

That said, I think that Matthew is planning to upgrade Lifebringer Galactus to High 1-B.

 

[Antvasima]

Consuming time and space of a certain scale is also rated at that scale, not transcending it entirely.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

After reading the scans : One could definitely say that it is a High 1-B Feat... And if you consider what " Everything " is in the context: It could be considered as 1-A feat. It said " He would devour All of time and space,and everything else "... Meaning it is likely it would destroy all of time and sapce, and things beyond it. What would it include though - The Outside ( LB Galactus , Eternity , and quite a few are aware of it ... So it being involved with 'Everything' is somewhat of a possibility ) - Far Shore ( Referenced by Infinity as where all the Abstracts originate from , and it was stated as iutside " The Outside " )

The 1-A part is more speculatory however, but that is the impression I got. High 1-B is the best guess. Considering such vastly weaker incarnations were treated as capable of such feats: This would scale to LB Galactus considering he is portrayed as literally infinitely superior to his previous self.

 

[Antvasima]

I think that anything beyond High 1-B is wild speculation.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

It's more ' trying to explain context correctly ' than ' wild speculation ' . Context here could mean either 1-A or High 1-B .

 

[Antvasima]

No, devouring all of space and time and funnelling it into the First Firmament is High 1-B.

 

[Antvasima]

Anyway, this isn't going to lead anywhere, and is taking up a lot of my time. I would prefer to close the thread.

 

[Antvasima]

Matthew will handle Galactus later.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

A heavily weakened , Hungry Galactus , and a heavily weakened , Universal Eternity is still High 1-B in Ultimates ? Excellent. I'm not picky with feats.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, as I mentioned, Matthew will upgrade the Lifebringer eventually, but the First Firmament had converted Galactus to serve its own purposes, and a hungry Galactus is usually depicted as 4-A or less.

In any case, the wiki is currently being overrun with out of control discussion threads, and I cannot manage all of them at once. As such, I will close this now.