Possible Marvel Cinematic Universe Upgrades

[AppleLord]

@Gemmy Yeah that's not the feat, page says it was an M4 and they just had handguns. Plus I don't think he even dodged that it looks like the guy just missed lol
@Apple It doesn't appear she outruns any bullets? It's certainly Supersonic just through the fact literally nobody moved at all, but it seems mostly like she moved guns before they fired.

There are bullets already fired moving in slow motion behind her, when she swaps the Gun.

 

[AppleLord]

Timeframe starts at 1:39, she outruns the bullets that were fired.

 

[LordXcano]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:LordXcano/MCU_Yo-Yo_Speed

Did the Yo-Yo calc. Personally I'm only okay with 227 m/s and up, since the wiki says her minimum speed is 180 m/s.

 

[AppleLord]

Which one is acceptable? Then I will make the page.

 

[LordXcano]

Wait for more opinions.

 

[AppleLord]

Alright.

 

[LordXcano]

While we're waiting though "At least Subsonic+ likely Supersonic (Ran at these speeds)" seems the best to me.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.

 

[AppleLord]

Why were Eli and Ghost Rider put at Unknown when there's a calc made by LordXcano?

 

[Antvasima]

Kkapoios wanted to get the time to evaluate how this would affect the Marvel Cinematic Universe as a whole. You can ask him about giving input here if you wish.

 

[AppleLord]

No problem, however, i won't agree if this is about movie characters been superior to tv show characters.

 

[AppleLord]

I was watching season 2 again, and Lady Sif said that Daisy's powers could grow, up to Building level and even Continent level, she already destroy a building after leaving SHIELD and now this bomb feat could put her at Large City Level. She also cause a avalanche casually.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvbNMuNgc3g

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

It just feels ridiculous for Quake and Kid Ghost Rider to be superior to Thor, Hulk and Dr.Strange, regardless of explanations or claims.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes. The question is whether this makes Thor's Sokovia feat more legitimate. Kkapoios is going to evaluate it in a while.

 

[Muuuuh]

I really believe that Dr Strange need a upgrade for at least Planet level, Since he can open Dormamus dimension and destroys the Earth by it

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

No.

 

[AppleLord]

Can't they be equals? Daisy is an avenger, and director of SHIELD in the comics. This isn't Kid Ghost Rider, Johnny Blaze pass on the spirit of vengeance to Robbie, is not like the comics.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Being equals sounds like a good decision, but I'd like to see opinions.

 

[AppleLord]

Sounds fair to me. Now we wait for Kkapoios opinion.

 

[Muuuuh]

No.

Why?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Because he didn't open no portal.

And even if he could that's not a feat. That's like if I was Superman's friend and called him for help on my cellphone.

I wouldn't be Large Star level because fo that.

 

[Antvasima]

I agree with Matthew.

 

[Gemmysaur]

Dem reflexes.

 

[Legion350]

Bump

 

[Muuuuh]

Because he didn't open no portal.
And even if he could that's not a feat. That's like if I was Superman's friend and called him for help on my cellphone.

I wouldn't be Large Star level because fo that.

Thiking in that way characters like Ash Ketchum, Yugi Muto, Lucy Heartfilia, Jaden Yuki, Some Naruto Characters, and others need a Downgrade

 

[LordXcano]

@Ant I'm wondering if we can afford to wait for Kk, what with his real life issues and the fact he hasn't responded here in weeks.

 

[Antvasima]

@LordXcano

You are most likely correct. We will have to try to figure this out on our own. Do you have any suggestions?

Btw: Welcome back to the wiki.

 

[LordXcano]

I'm only back for a few days while at my grandma's.

The way I see it, Thor's feat has always been "legit" it was just a question of whether it was an oultier or not. Given Ghost Rider's feat, the (apparent) implication Quake could reach Continent level, and the fact the Bifrost Bridge (also apparently) has enough energy to destroy a planet I'm leaning more towards Sokovia being a non-outlier.

Bifrost Bridge being Planetary is an oulier for Thor most definitely though, and even if Sokovia is shut down again I'd like to say that Ghost Rider could still have a City level feat and it'd be fine.

Would it be weird having SHIELD characters stronger than the mainstream movie ones? Yeah. But AFAIK there's really nothing that says TV show < movies in power besides just gut feeling.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay then. I personally do not mind if both the Sokovia and nuclear explosion feats are counted. I will highlight this thread again for further input.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I too, think that using both feats would be for the best. It's a solid backup for the level of the Avengers.

 

[RadicalMrR]

I agree with the upgrades as well.

 

[Antvasima]

So, which character pages would need to be rescaled, and to what tiers?

 

[Cropfist]

I agree with this.

 

[The_Everlasting]

I, as well, agree with the upgrades.

 

[Asyulus]

For example, Iron Man and Thor tanked the Sokovia explosion.

 

[Antvasima]

We need a list of which characters to scale to these feats though, as well as a link to the Sokovia calculation.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

My idea:

Scaling Avengers and onwards Iron Man to 8-A due to KKA's calculation.

Scale Thor, Hulk and others to 7-B due to Thor being at the epicenter of the Sokovia Explosion.

 

[Omni-everything]

i agree for this upgrade

 

[Antvasima]

@Matthew Okay.

@All Does anybody have a link to the 7-B Sokovia calculation?

 

[Cropfist]

User blog:Kkapoios/Thor destroys Sokovia