Possible Marvel Cinematic Universe Upgrades

[AppleLord]

He caused a cataclysm on Planet Maveth, destroying an entire civilization of the native species that inhabit it and reduced Maveth to a desolate wasteland. Is there after what you copy & paste.

Environmental Manipulation: Hive is able to both manipulate wind and sandstorms on Maveth as well as widening chasms. He also seems to be able to manipulate the weather on the alien planet Maveth or at least thrive in sandstorms. Hive is capable of manipulating the terrain around him however he wishes. On Maveth, when Jemma Simmons and Will Daniels were about to reach a wormhole, Hive widened a canyon with his powers.

Possibly with Environmental destruction.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Can you actually show the scene where this is quoted, that he actually destroyed the planet?

 

[AppleLord]

Can you actually show the scene where this is quoted, that he actually destroyed the planet?

I could try and find it.

 

[AppleLord]

I had no luck. The wiki source says season 3 episode 10 and I'm mot planning on watching it again. I found another feat in here http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Hive#Banished he made the 30 meter canyon into a 100 meter canyon. I don't know if that's worth something.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

If we have no source for feat, I'm not accepting it.

 

[AppleLord]

We have the source, what we don't have if someone capable of taking the quote out of a 30-40 episodes. Is better to put him at Unknown for now. His scaling doesn't affect anyone.

 

[Antvasima]

@Matthew

Do you have any ideas for how we should solve the scaling issues with the Kree? I think that the profile pages currently refer to the fight one of them had with Sif. The problem is that Sif is currently rated as 8-A, and the Kree as 9-A.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

We could scale them from Drax, who I think is also 9-A?

 

[Antvasima]

I thought that Drax was scaled from them? If not, that seems like a good idea. Othervise, we might have to give them unknown ratings.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpTG-O8JlaQ

Drax could be Small Building Level for being ran over with a spaceship and surviving.

 

[Antvasima]

That seems fine, yes. You can adjust the related pages accordingly, if you wish.

 

[Asyulus]

In Age of Ultron, Should Mark 45 Iron Man be City level since he contributed into damaging Final Form Ultron? I feel like Mark 45 should be 7-B.

 

[Gemmysaur]

I dunno. There's 3 of them doing it so...probably not.

 

[Asyulus]

Ultron's durability is comparable to Thor, who survived Bifrost explosion with an output of like 300+ tons of TNT (MCB). Divided by 3 is 100 tons of TNT, still MCB.

 

[Gemmysaur]

Yes, and Iron Man is MCB already, sans Hulkbuster which is City level.

 

[LordXcano]

This thread is 274 messages in. Would anybody mind if we moved this to a new one?

 

[Asyulus]

Yes, and Iron Man is MCB already, sans Hulkbuster which is City level.

Iron Man is MCB? I thought he is LB?

I mean Ultron has City levels of durability. But then why is Vision City level AP just because he damaged Ultron? Even though Iron Man joined the combined blast to damage Ultron, together with Thor's lightning.

 

[Antvasima]

@LordXcano I think that a new continuation thread would be preferable, yes.

@All Did anybody update the Kree, and other Guardians of the Galaxy movie character pages, based on Drax's feat?

 

[Naitez]

But then why is Vision City level AP just because he damaged Ultron? Even though Iron Man joined the combined blast to damage Ultron, together with Thor's lightning.

I think he's City level for managing to stand up to Ultron and evenly fight him before Iron Man and Thor joined in.

 

[Gemmysaur]

Iron Man is MCB? I thought he is LB?

I mean Ultron has City levels of durability. But then why is Vision City level AP just because he damaged Ultron? Even though Iron Man joined the combined blast to damage Ultron, together with Thor's lightning.

Nah, he's MCB for a while now.

I dunno why Vision would be City level, probably because he wasn't damaged in any way after tangoing with Ultron.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

If you watch the movie you'll see that they treat Vision as a huge, big deal. He's written as the most powerful Avenger, and can damage Ultron.

 

[Asyulus]

If you watch the movie you'll see that they treat Vision as a huge, big deal. He's written as the most powerful Avenger, and can damage Ultron.

So is Iron Man and Thor in a blast combination.

Ultron has tanked hits from Thor who destroyed Sokovia with a yield of 8.455*10^16 joules (City level). When Thor destroyed the Sokovia, the vibranium core remained intact and undamaged, and that's what Ultron is made from. Divide 8.455*10^16 joules by 3 (IM + Thor + Vision) and you get 2.818*10^16 joules, still City level.

 

[Antvasima]

I saw that Matthew fixed the AP ratings. Thanks.

However, the speed ratings are still scaled from Loki and Sif.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

They are?

 

[Gemmysaur]

Well, Loki does have one of the speed feats that put everyone at subsonic, namely catching Hawkeye's arrow from a blindspot.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Hawkeye also has a subsonic feat in dodging a bullet from a large distance.

 

[Gemmysaur]

And Iron Man has that casual sidestepping a tank shell.

Yey for consistency.

 

[Antvasima]

So, any suggestions?

 

[Gemmysaur]

I think speed ratings are okay, at least, for the movie side of the MCU. I dunno enough about the TV side to make anything of it.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I am talking about the Kree, Drax, Gamora, Nebula, etcetera, specifically.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Well, Subsonic for them is okay. Scaling from humans such as Hawkeye which they are superior to.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Are you willing to change the descriptions/justifications accordingly?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Done.

With this, I think there's finally no revisions to be made.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thanks. I suppose that we should close this thread then.