Pokemon Downgrades

[The_real_cal_howard]

I've been talking with Ever, Dark, and Kep, and it turns out there's a flaw in the calc that scales them to High 6-C. Something to do with the clouds. So, it's probably best to scale them back to what they were at before (unless we decide to start using anime/manga calcs), which was 7-A+ so once again, Digimon are stronger than Pokemo. They'd still scale from Charizard, who can still melt mountains, Gyarados, who can burn mountains to the ground, Salamence, who can set mountains on fire, Gigalith, who can turn them into dust, and Tyranitar, who can crumble them by walking and it has some degree of consistency.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

What about Magnitude and Thunder?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Maybe this will motivate you to calc Bloom Doom OVO

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

I'll see if I can dig up that Dragonair calc I did awhile back, I think it was 6-C. Theirs also a high end feat by Alakazam if I recall.

 

[Kepekley23]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Kepekley23/Pok%C3%A9mon:_Pupitar_toppling_a_mountai

They're more like High 7-A, not 7-A+.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Oh, and Defog's 326 megaton value is still a thing.

 

[Kepekley23]

@Dark

Your Dragonair calc was 16 kilotons. What was 6-C was the Alakazam.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Darkanine/Pokemon:_Two_Anime_Calcs

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Kep No i remember dragonair having a 6-C storm calc

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Dragonair calc

Alakazam calc

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

There's still the massive amount of storm calcs I asked Dark to calc for me ovo

 

[Kepekley23]

That one is High 7-A, which is consistent with Pupitar (another 2nd evo) being High 7-A.

6-C looks good for Alakazam, I think.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Wait, does that mean that the Low 6-B Pokemon are becoming High 7-A, or just the second stage Pseudos or none and it just scales to final evolutions?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Someone

Calc

Bloom

Doom

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

Oh, that was the one that was in the Gigaton range. Year that Dragonair feat is unreliable. It's unclear if it was done by one or a group of Dragonair.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Pokemon should still be relativistic via Solar Beam dodging ovo

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I will not stop bringing up Bloom Doom until someone calcs it ovo

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Dark's the storm king. Have him do it ovo.

Inb4 Dark kills me for having him do a calc.

 

[Kepekley23]

I checked the Camerupt episode, and it seems like the storm was formed in ~3 seconds, not 1.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Bloom Doom ovo

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

I probably used a high end then, using 3 seconds yielded 1.0 Gigatons

Well, it's consistent if nothing else.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

What's the 6-C feat again? Couldn't fully evolved mons scale to that?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

It's animu only.

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

@Dragon

It's been downgraded to High 7-A...like everything else.

I'll look into Bloom Doom but it's kind of funky.

 

[Kepekley23]

Gigalith "blowing" away Mt. Fuji would be 518 megatons (using the radius of the base, which is 22.5km)

So it's a nice supporter, although it's a high-end. The OBD has a 500 kiloton low end.

 

[Kepekley23]

By the way, you said Gyarados had a 6-C feat. What is it?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Ignore it. Dark and Ever debunked it. Gyarados can only burn a mountain to the ground, as opposed to vaporizing it. Only one with a 6-C feat is Tyranitar...maybe.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

bump

 

[Schnee_One]

So instead of 7A+ and High 7A, we're just doing High 7A

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

Seems like High 7-A is consistent enough.

 

[Dark649]

Pryce Delibird has a casual 6-C+ feat. This is why the Seventh Gym Leaders are rated High 6-C.

 

[Kepekley23]

The calculator deleted said blog.

 

[Starter_Pack]

Machamp supposedly has the power to push a mountain with a single hand, and throw 1,000 punches in one second, according to the Pokédex.

Just thought I'd throw that out there.

 

[Kepekley23]

The OBD calc'ed that one at Town level.

 

[Kepekley23]

Also, if you're willing to consider Pokémons tanking Giratina's existence as a feat, they'd be 32.8 gigatons, since Giratina is made out of antimatter.

this is a shitpost, don't try to upgrade based off of that

 

[Kaltias]

I mean that doesn't really work unless Giratina gets annihilated and they tank the explosion.

I dunno why I replied seriously ovo

 

[Kepekley23]

If anyone has a link to Delibird's feat, I can try a recalc

 

[Dark649]

The Delibird feat started here, not sure if he froze all the entirety of it but here is the map of the lake rage.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

So are we gonna proceed with the changes?

 

[Dark649]

We must also think how to rescale the trainers since i used featless upward scaling.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

How far into High 7-A are they? If they are far enough, solid 6-C for the Top Trainers works.