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I misremembered the scene:
As a bonus though have a depressed Promethean Knight.
As a bonus though have a depressed Promethean Knight.
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- Halo The Fall of ReachJohn waited on the other side of the steel and bulletproof-glass security door, one hand on its handle, one foot braced against the wall.
Inside three muffled thumps sounded.
John pulled, wrenching the door and frame from the steel reinforcing in the wall.
- Halo OblivionWe’ve installed neural-inhibitor collars on you and your comrades. UNSC standard issue for dangerous felons.” He smiled. “I’d wager without one you could, and would, rip me in half in that miraculous power armor.”
John kept his mouth shut.
“Relax,” the man said. “I am General Graves.”
I misremembered the scene:
As a bonus though have a depressed Promethean Knight.
You could use the 12 ton leg statement if you want.found some potential LS feats, one actual, and one speculated. I don't know how to calc either, and one isn't on the common feats page. I consulted the Calc Group on the Calc Group forum on how to approach it
I found this door feat from the Fall of Reach in a respect thread. I have a bunch of Halo novels, but my living situation changed and most of my books are in storage, and thus inaccessible. Where did this statement come from? Do you have it handy?You could use the 12 ton leg statement if you want.
Where did this statement come from? Do you have it handy?
Total fragmentation? In the upper end ofHow much power would it take to completely obliterate a Wraith via an explosion? I ask because the Hrunting Mark 1 Prototype Suit in Legends was able to do that with one of its custom made explosives.
I mean the explosion wasn't even a purple one like what happens when Covenant vehicles are destroyed, it was like what you'd see from human explosives so it was just the blast from the suit's claymore thing.Total fragmentation? In the upper end of High 8-C.
That is if we can prove total fragmentation. I think DDM is a bit overzealous when it comes to dismissing vehicle destruction. Firstly, we have no clue about the power source of Covenant vehicles and their volatility, secondly, for instance a Gasoline tank exploding in a car doesn't even come close to fragmenting the entire thing, let alone heating it up enough in a given timeframe to significantly weaken the structure.
You are correct.I mean the explosion wasn't even a purple one like what happens when Covenant vehicles are destroyed, it was like what you'd see from human explosives so it was just the blast from the suit's claymore thing.
Nice, that makes it consistent too with the fact that this suit was the first attempt at Power Armor for the UNSC, meaning you could potentially scale this thing to the Mantis since it and the Cyclops are descendants of the Hrunting Prototype Suit.You are correct.
Fragmentation of 47000 Kilograms of Titanium, the mass of a Wraith is...... 10444444.444 cc * 550 = 5.7444444442 Gigajoules, or 8-C+.
Had a brain fart there, but it would still be consistent with how powerful UNSC explosives are.
It is a AMV, but here it is
I'm not as adept with explosion calcs as others, but eyeballing from that hangar door, it could easily be 8-C+, or lower in High 8-C.How big is that explosion the suit makes when it flies out of the mountainside like that?
More consistency!I'm not as adept with explosion calcs as others, but eyeballing from that hangar door, it could easily be 8-C+, or lower in High 8-C.
Yeah it does, I think it’s with the blade, I think there’s a gif in the MC respect threadI just realized this feat might not mean much but doesn't a Knight blitz and one-shot two Elites piloting Ghosts in Halo 4?
JEROME'S COMING FROM THE TOP ROPE WITH A STEEL CHAIR!Imagine beating up some of the Flood with a chair
Holy hell.... Wouldn't this by extension severely buff up the Hardlight Shield and Hunter Shields since they can block these blasts?Oh boy....I am not looking forward to this nightmare of a discussion but I revisited the Incineration Cannon, the Gravemind, and the Proto-Gravemind in Halo Wars 2 + Statements and recalculated the Incineration Cannon in the 7-C range...
I swear on the blood of Master Chief himself, the Rings, and the spirit of Halo that I was NOT out to wank this. I sought out a different perspective and this is what I got. There could be mistakes...but it's pretty blatant.
If accepted, no this is not an Outlier and I can explain why. I'll be lazy and copy-paste what is in my blog.
The Incineration Cannon is basically the Apex of Infantry weaponry in Halo, and literally nothing else comes even remotely close. The same passage I quoted even implies these weapons are In-between Forerunner starship weapons, and Infantry weapons and were used when neither was really appropriate. And if you know anything about Halo, Forerunner starship weapons are extremely powerful, and this is consistent with the technology being laughably superior to UNSC or Covenant weaponry.
In a moment I will calculate just that. DDM already did the heavy lifting for that in his Heavy Weaponry blog.Holy hell.... Wouldn't this by extension severely buff up the Hardlight Shield and Hunter Shields since they can block these blasts?
So would the Prototype Suit's Cannon scale to whatever the Hunter Shield calc gets?In a moment I will calculate just that. DDM already did the heavy lifting for that in his Heavy Weaponry blog.
The Incineration Cannon is purely thermal energy, so it's not like the Hunter shields take even a fraction of the energy, but it would still be huge...especially since the Prototype suit can overpenetrate their shields.
The hardlight shield bounces the entire blast to boot, so it would be upgraded indeed.
Copying DDM's math and applying the low-end....So would the Prototype Suit's Cannon scale to whatever the Hunter Shield calc gets?
The Prototype Suit is also hella unique because it was a one of a kind irreplaceable suit of armor that has its own unique feats like being within the epicenter of an exploding Phantom without sustaining much damage at all. I think it's shield was even still up.Copying DDM's math and applying the low-end....
Warden Eternal: 9977.85 * 6.12/1017.88 = 59.9917 Tons, 8-B+
Grunt Goblin: 9977.85 * 5.23896137525/1017.88 = 51.355 Tons, 8-B
Hunter Shields: 9977.85 * 3.28064847059/1017.88 = 32.158 Tons, 8-B. (Note that we will need to find a more correct surface area for Hunter shields, but I can tackle that at another time)
I think I've just created a monster. Even if the calc gets adjusted and tempered by the Calc Group...yeah I'm not looking forward to how this complicates scaling.
I guess the result isn't necessarily crazy. All three enemies can take multiple hits from the Spartan Laser, and I think Hunter Shields can as well IIRC.The Prototype Suit is also hella unique because it was a one of a kind irreplaceable suit of armor that has its own unique feats like being within the epicenter of an exploding Phantom without sustaining much damage at all. I think it's shield was even still up.
It does. That being said, Halo Sniper Rifles, whether Human, Covenant or Forerunner are all insanely cracked. Both the Sniper Rifle and Beam Rifle can one-shot Spartans and Elites most of the time if shot in the head.I guess the result isn't necessarily crazy. All three enemies can take multiple hits from the Spartan Laser, and I think Hunter Shields can as well IIRC.
Here is the statement that I firmly believe legitimizes this.It does.
Yeah, the Incineration Cannon is just built different. Speaking of cannons, how powerful are Hunter Assault Cannons compared to standard Fuel Rod Cannons?Here is the statement that I firmly believe legitimizes this.
"The Incineration Cannon was often used to strategically purge Flood-infected sites. Prometheans used the Incineration Cannon when assaulting a location believed to contain a Gravemind, or early-forming spore mountains, that were deemed too small for ship weapons but too large for infantry weapons."
I think this is pretty clear, and implies the sheer power of the Incineration cannon on top of the calc.
I think that we assume with reasonably good faith that they are relative in power, though Hunter cannons fire a more continuous stream of plasma.Yeah, the Incineration Cannon is just built different. Speaking of cannons, how powerful are Hunter Assault Cannons compared to standard Fuel Rod Cannons?
I always assumed the Assault Cannon was stronger purely through sheer rate of fire if nothing else.I think that we assume with reasonably good faith that they are relative in power, though Hunter cannons fire a more continuous stream of plasma.
At a minimum they are comparable.I always assumed the Assault Cannon was stronger purely through sheer rate of fire if nothing else.
Can't Mjolnir armor be set to Self-Destruct like the Hrunting Prototype Suit? Should we perhaps calc that if there's not an official number given for the payload?At a minimum they are comparable.
Now we await a tense discussion....
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Not so fast, as eager as I am to turn a downgrade thread around, there's nothing suggesting Spartans physically are in this range. Master Chief was knocked out by a blast that created an 8-C crater, cannot survive a hit from the Warden Eternal's sword, nor can he withstand the Splaser.City block+ Master Chief is not what I had on my bingo today
The Prototype suit's Self Destruct is like 7-B or so eyeballing it, but I have no idea what Mjolnir's self destruct is like.Can't Mjolnir armor be set to Self-Destruct like the Hrunting Prototype Suit? Should we perhaps calc that if there's not an official number given for the payload?