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Alright so firstly our PL profiles are incomplete as hell. So it needs a revamp. However do note some of this stuff comes from atwiki which is a wiki used by Masada and some are not in the VN itself. Another note is some notes are from the side stories which are not uploaded besides side story 1 so those parts are mostly from atwiki and the script to compensate (Such as masada and a side story noting Belial's flames can kill Muzan). Thirdly the scans are in Japanese but if the fan translations is done we can replace it so it will be easier for others to read.
Thx to QB for helping me with all this. Couldn't do it without you man.
Firstly: New Keys such as Lyle having 2 extra keys (EoS where he sublimates Nacht/Belial and Nacht himself)
Secondly: Anyone using Quintessence will get high 1-A via hax and said users will have high 1-A durability. This is due to how sin and mana are draw from higher dimensions as a byproduct of the throne and from Muzan himself. And those who are sin or mana users can only be damaged by said users (small note Sin > Mana most of the time) such as Lil being unable to damage Ast due to her being a Sin user.
Thirdly: Revamp powers and abilities and speed
These are the examples of what the profiles would become post-revisions
Lyle post revisions
Some extra text and Liliel post revisions
All the other profiles post revisions (Thx QB again)
Small additional notes because I cannot edit blog
意識を奪われ、拘束していたリルだがアストが対ベリアルの切り札としてリルの“式”を使おうとしたためマスターへ行くはずのコマンドが一リルを経由してしまったため執行者が覚醒、アストが使用しようとしていたガブリエルをライルに叩き込んでしまう。 (TL: Netsive Melakh is a trump card against Belial)
さらに現実世界だけでなく、精神世界でも使用可能。 宿主であるロト(ライル)が力量を上げた際、ナハトが精神世界で罪の洗礼と言わんばかりに使用しており、あちらでも腐炎の力はあまりにも強大で、当たってしまえば現実の身体まで想像を絶する苦痛に苛まれる。 それどころか、ぱっと見では全く無傷の現実の肉体に触れてしまった第三者にも少なからず腐炎の影響があり、熾天使のリリエルですら物理的に手が黒く爛れてしまうほど。 (the damage in the spiritual/inner mental world will translate into damage in the real world. To a 3rd party they assume the person doesn't take damage but in reality the fire is burning them physically as well (I also found the fire is invisible to most ppl)
For killing Muzan:
万物を腐滅させるメギドの炎。核兵器を無効化し、大陸を滅殺する力。正田氏によると神にも効くとの事だが、詳細は不明。(Atwiki)
それは呪い。この宇宙を形成した主をも滅ぼさんとする極大の呪詛。(side story)
ベリアルは地獄の底、ジュデッカより召喚された存在。死を司る地獄の魔王であり神をも殺すとされている。(atwiki)
Tiering in english?
Lyle: At least 9-A likely 8-C normally, High 1-A via Sin | At least High 6-A, likely at least 5-A High 1-A with Sin | At least High 6-A, likely at least 5-A High 1-A with Sin | High 1-A
Satanel: Unknown. High 1-A with Mana and Sin | High 1-A
Astaroth: At least High 6-A, likely at least 5-A High 1-A with Sin
Liliel: At least High 6-A, likely at least 5-A. High 1-A with Mana
Judas: At least 9-A likely 8-C | At least High 6-A, likely at least 5-A.High 1-A with Sin | High 1-A
Know: At least 9-B | At least 9-A likely 8-C higher with limiters off and Imitation Deathscythe
In french?
*speaks french*
In Morse Code?
*beep beep beep*
Tldr: All the profiles will get a revamp with High 1-A haxes and dura
Votes:
Agree: 10
Disagree:
NIGERUNDAYO (neutral):
Small part of CRT (does this may be redunctant)
Well I had a friend to ask for a lowball for some of the speeds which will only affect base lyle, judas and cybernation know's lowend speed:
戦車砲にも匹敵する僕の蹴りを都合三発。それぞれ延髄、頭頂、喉元に一ミリ秒の誤差もなく殆ど同時に叩き込まれ、黒衣の長身はボロ屑のように吹き飛んだ。ヤツにとっては、音も衝撃も一つにしか感じられなかったろう。(The text)
Basically know and lyle fought and lyle got some distance away only for know in that span would be able to hit Lyle 3 times in under a milisecond screenshot (striking the medulla oblongata, the top of the head and the throat, respectively, almost simultaneously with less than a millisecond's notice with kicks while closing in after Lyle jumped for some distance) (rough translation someone can correct me if i'm wrong obviously)
Some info for calc Know is 173cm, Lyle is 182cm
Here is the calc he made:
The average leg of a man is 44% of that. 1.73 m * (44/100) = 0.7612 m So assuming that he withdraws it completely then that distance would be around the average knee height which is 30.5 % of the height. 1.73 m * (30.5/100) = 0.52765 m Taking off 0.15 m for marging of error if he doesn't completely withdraws it. 0.52765 m - 0.15 m = 0.37765 m Moved that distance 5 times to attack and withdraws. 0.37765 m * 5 = 1.88825 m 1 milisecond = 0.001 secs 1.88825 m / 0.001 secs =1888.25 m/sec
That's assumming that he withdraws it, if someone says that he swings it or if he doesn't withdraws completely instead then the distance would be smaller, the stuff would be different. If he withdraws it then it means that for those three attacks in different parts of the body he needs to move 5 times the 0.37765 m distance; first to attack x, then to withdraw, then to attack y, then withdraws, then to attack z.
Also, if someone says that the guy only needed to withdraw from the targets to the front of the head then the distance would be around 12 cm for a 1.73 m guy 0.12 m * 5 = 0.6 m 1 milisecond = 0.001 secs 0.6 m / 0.001 secs =600 m/sec mach 1.749271137, which is Supersonic
So its just me wondering if the lowend should be hypersonic or supersonic. Personally I think its hypersonic because know did go supersonic with only 40% of his power and we have ast and him going at lightning speed already without his limiters off
Tldr need to check what is the lowend and hope i didn't F up with that small translation
Calc blog is here
Vote:
Hypersonic:
Supersonic:
Thx to QB for helping me with all this. Couldn't do it without you man.
Firstly: New Keys such as Lyle having 2 extra keys (EoS where he sublimates Nacht/Belial and Nacht himself)
Secondly: Anyone using Quintessence will get high 1-A via hax and said users will have high 1-A durability. This is due to how sin and mana are draw from higher dimensions as a byproduct of the throne and from Muzan himself. And those who are sin or mana users can only be damaged by said users (small note Sin > Mana most of the time) such as Lil being unable to damage Ast due to her being a Sin user.
Thirdly: Revamp powers and abilities and speed
These are the examples of what the profiles would become post-revisions
Lyle post revisions
Some extra text and Liliel post revisions
All the other profiles post revisions (Thx QB again)
Small additional notes because I cannot edit blog
意識を奪われ、拘束していたリルだがアストが対ベリアルの切り札としてリルの“式”を使おうとしたためマスターへ行くはずのコマンドが一リルを経由してしまったため執行者が覚醒、アストが使用しようとしていたガブリエルをライルに叩き込んでしまう。 (TL: Netsive Melakh is a trump card against Belial)
さらに現実世界だけでなく、精神世界でも使用可能。 宿主であるロト(ライル)が力量を上げた際、ナハトが精神世界で罪の洗礼と言わんばかりに使用しており、あちらでも腐炎の力はあまりにも強大で、当たってしまえば現実の身体まで想像を絶する苦痛に苛まれる。 それどころか、ぱっと見では全く無傷の現実の肉体に触れてしまった第三者にも少なからず腐炎の影響があり、熾天使のリリエルですら物理的に手が黒く爛れてしまうほど。 (the damage in the spiritual/inner mental world will translate into damage in the real world. To a 3rd party they assume the person doesn't take damage but in reality the fire is burning them physically as well (I also found the fire is invisible to most ppl)
For killing Muzan:
万物を腐滅させるメギドの炎。核兵器を無効化し、大陸を滅殺する力。正田氏によると神にも効くとの事だが、詳細は不明。(Atwiki)
それは呪い。この宇宙を形成した主をも滅ぼさんとする極大の呪詛。(side story)
ベリアルは地獄の底、ジュデッカより召喚された存在。死を司る地獄の魔王であり神をも殺すとされている。(atwiki)
Tiering in english?
Lyle: At least 9-A likely 8-C normally, High 1-A via Sin | At least High 6-A, likely at least 5-A High 1-A with Sin | At least High 6-A, likely at least 5-A High 1-A with Sin | High 1-A
Satanel: Unknown. High 1-A with Mana and Sin | High 1-A
Astaroth: At least High 6-A, likely at least 5-A High 1-A with Sin
Liliel: At least High 6-A, likely at least 5-A. High 1-A with Mana
Judas: At least 9-A likely 8-C | At least High 6-A, likely at least 5-A.High 1-A with Sin | High 1-A
Know: At least 9-B | At least 9-A likely 8-C higher with limiters off and Imitation Deathscythe
*speaks french*
In Morse Code?
*beep beep beep*
Tldr: All the profiles will get a revamp with High 1-A haxes and dura
Votes:
Agree: 10
Disagree:
NIGERUNDAYO (neutral):
Small part of CRT (does this may be redunctant)
Well I had a friend to ask for a lowball for some of the speeds which will only affect base lyle, judas and cybernation know's lowend speed:
戦車砲にも匹敵する僕の蹴りを都合三発。それぞれ延髄、頭頂、喉元に一ミリ秒の誤差もなく殆ど同時に叩き込まれ、黒衣の長身はボロ屑のように吹き飛んだ。ヤツにとっては、音も衝撃も一つにしか感じられなかったろう。(The text)
Basically know and lyle fought and lyle got some distance away only for know in that span would be able to hit Lyle 3 times in under a milisecond screenshot (striking the medulla oblongata, the top of the head and the throat, respectively, almost simultaneously with less than a millisecond's notice with kicks while closing in after Lyle jumped for some distance) (rough translation someone can correct me if i'm wrong obviously)
Some info for calc Know is 173cm, Lyle is 182cm
Here is the calc he made:
The average leg of a man is 44% of that. 1.73 m * (44/100) = 0.7612 m So assuming that he withdraws it completely then that distance would be around the average knee height which is 30.5 % of the height. 1.73 m * (30.5/100) = 0.52765 m Taking off 0.15 m for marging of error if he doesn't completely withdraws it. 0.52765 m - 0.15 m = 0.37765 m Moved that distance 5 times to attack and withdraws. 0.37765 m * 5 = 1.88825 m 1 milisecond = 0.001 secs 1.88825 m / 0.001 secs =1888.25 m/sec
That's assumming that he withdraws it, if someone says that he swings it or if he doesn't withdraws completely instead then the distance would be smaller, the stuff would be different. If he withdraws it then it means that for those three attacks in different parts of the body he needs to move 5 times the 0.37765 m distance; first to attack x, then to withdraw, then to attack y, then withdraws, then to attack z.
Also, if someone says that the guy only needed to withdraw from the targets to the front of the head then the distance would be around 12 cm for a 1.73 m guy 0.12 m * 5 = 0.6 m 1 milisecond = 0.001 secs 0.6 m / 0.001 secs =600 m/sec mach 1.749271137, which is Supersonic
So its just me wondering if the lowend should be hypersonic or supersonic. Personally I think its hypersonic because know did go supersonic with only 40% of his power and we have ast and him going at lightning speed already without his limiters off
Tldr need to check what is the lowend and hope i didn't F up with that small translation
Calc blog is here
Vote:
Hypersonic:
Supersonic:
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