Doraemon Nothingness Version

[William_Joee]

• Version Of Nothingness Doraemon

The concepts of Nothingness and What-If Boxes in the Doraemon universe present interesting ideas about existence. In this scenario, the user can switch existences through the What-If/Moshimo Box, to a new reality where they are bound by the laws and destiny of that world. This is proven through Doraemon and Nobita's adventures in outer space in the Movie "Doraemon: Nobita's New Great Adventure into the Underworld", where they can breathe, meet moon rabbits, and even consume Saturn stones because of the logic that exists in that reality.

Doraemon's creation of the World of Nothingness illustrates how even he, as the creator, is subject to the laws of that realm. This forms a system of dimensional transitions connected to the What-If/Moshimo Box, where the user becomes intertwined with the reality manifested by the device.


[ https://imgur.com/a/OF8y3GE ]

作中では、危機的状況に陥ったドラえもんとのび太が、もしもボックスの使用を阻止しようとタイムマシンに乗り過去の自分達の元へと向かう。しかし、魔王の刺客であるメジューサに追跡され、過去の世界で魔法により石に変えられてしまう。この場面から、上記の通りタイムマシンを使えばもしもボックス無しでもパラレルワールドから次元を超えて現実世界へ帰還出来ることが分かる。また、元の世界（魔法が存在しない現実世界）に移動したにもかかわらず、のび太がホーキングを行えたり、メジューサが魔法を使うことが出来る。この描写から分かる通り、移動後のパラレルワールドにおける法則は、移動前の現実世界でも通用する。また、魔法世界ではドラえもんが純粋な科学技術で作られたひみつ道具を使用している。この描写から分かる通り、移動前の現実世界から持ち出した物は、移動後のパラレルワールドでも問題なく使用可能。

In the story, Doraemon and Nobita, who are in a critical situation, ride a time machine and head to their past in order to stop the box from being used. However, he is tracked down by Medjusa, an assassin of the Demon King, and is magically turned into stone in the past world. From this scene, we can see that if we use the time machine as mentioned above, we can cross dimensions from the parallel world and return to the real world even without the box. Also, even though they have moved to their original world (the real world where magic does not exist), Nobita can perform hawking and Medusa can use magic. As you can see from this depiction, the laws in the parallel world after movement also apply in the real world before movement. Also, in the magical world, Doraemon uses secret tools made with pure science and technology. As you can see from this depiction, things taken from the real world before the move can be used without problems in the parallel world after the move.
[ https://dic.pixiv.net/a/もしもボックス#:~:text=概要,通りの世界になる。 ]

【 Statistics 】

Durability: Low 2C

Doraemon is able to withstand the impact of the big bang explosion which produces enormous heat, and is able to fill nothingness with space, creating a space-time dimension.

[ https://imgur.com/a/dBDkfXQ ]
[ https://imgur.com/a/KCUnNS4 ]
[ https://youtu.be/ABs2yXwzGmM?si=xgNYhXewd0_f4HpE ]

Speed: Immeasurable

With his speed, Doraemon has the ability to travel quickly through time, even being able to reach billions of years into the future after the big explosion and out of the universe which is stated to be an endless structure without running out of stamina at all.
[ https://imgur.com/a/dzKDub8 ]
[ https://imgur.com/a/GHjvohU ]

Stamina: Infinite

Doraemon has the ability to travel in and out of the universe which is stated to be an endless structure without running out of stamina at all. This includes the situations of the big bang explosion, the formation of the first groups of stars, and the solar system that formed the universe.


[ https://imgur.com/a/GHjvohU ]


【 Beyond Dimensional Existence Type 1 And 2 】

The world of nothingness is a realm that precedes Space-Time, beyond the limitations of time and space. Through Existence Transfer with What If Phone Booth, this brings Doraemon to a state of existence outside and beyond time itself.
[ https://imgur.com/a/wqqHzua ]
[ https://imgur.com/a/sgQEtrR ]
[ https://imgur.com/a/dBDkfXQ ]
[ https://imgur.com/a/KCUnNS4 ]
[ https://youtu.be/ABs2yXwzGmM?si=xgNYhXewd0_f4HpE ]

【 Nonexistence Physiology Type 1 Aspect 5 】

With the Implementation of the What-If phone's ability to move Doraemon into an independent existence in the World of Nothingness, without any ties, existing in a state without matter, time, energy, or space and having no real physical body which is not affected by the enormous heat of the big bang.
[ https://imgur.com/a/wqqHzua ]
[ https://imgur.com/a/sgQEtrR ]
[ https://imgur.com/a/dBDkfXQ ]
[ https://imgur.com/a/KCUnNS4 ]
[ https://youtu.be/ABs2yXwzGmM?si=xgNYhXewd0_f4HpE ]

【 Void Manipulation 】

as depicted in Doraemon's narrative, it depicts the creation of Nothingness, where all elements, including space, time, matter, and energy, cease to exist. This state is often described as empty, dark, and without substance, highlighting the profound capabilities of the What-If tool (in the work, when Doraemon takes out the if box, "If something like this happens If you ask me, I can make a world like that.").
[ https://imgur.com/a/wqqHzua ]
[ https://imgur.com/a/sgQEtrR ]
[ https://imgur.com/a/dBDkfXQ ]
[ https://imgur.com/a/KCUnNS4 ]
[ https://youtu.be/ABs2yXwzGmM?si=xgNYhXewd0_f4HpE ]

【 Self Sustence Type 1 And 2 】

Doraemon has endurance in the World of Nothingness or outside the universe, where he can explore endless structures without needing oxygen, traverse the universe without rest, and connect with the primitive Nothingness.
[ https://imgur.com/a/wqqHzua ]
[ https://imgur.com/a/GHjvohU ]

【 Dimension Travel 】

Doraemon's Dimension Travel ability shows his capacity to explore different dimensions, making him an entity outside the Multiverse, capable of exploring diverse realms beyond conventional understanding.
[ https://imgur.com/a/wqqHzua ]
[ https://imgur.com/a/GHjvohU ]

Scan Source : Doraemon Space Exploration (released in 1992)

 

[William_Joee]

@Alien_Dual_Blaster

 

[William_Joee]

bump

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks good to me

 

[William_Joee]

Looks good to me

Do you agree?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Yeah.

 

[TartaChocholate]

Say, question: the scans showing Doraemon, Nobita and the others witnessing the Big Bang and the others with that man explaining it to them, where are they from? The first two pages are from Doraemon Long Tales, but the others from where are they from? The main manga?

Also, I think a character can't have Beyond Dimensional Existence Type 2 unless they are outright outerversal.

 

[William_Joee]

Say, question: the scans showing Doraemon, Nobita and the others witnessing the Big Bang and the others with that man explaining it to them, where are they from? The first two pages are from Doraemon Long Tales, but the others from where are they from? The main manga?

Also, I think a character can't have Beyond Dimensional Existence Type 2 unless they are outright outerversal.

Firstly, there is a scene from the main manga. You can search for the title, namely Doraemon, the space exploration series.

for Beyond Dimensional Existence Type 2 they are truly transferred into an existence that exists in nothingness, outside space-time and beyond it.

 

[TartaChocholate]

Firstly, there is a scene from the main manga. You can search for the title, namely Doraemon, the space exploration series.

for Beyond Dimensional Existence Type 2 they are truly transferred into an existence that exists in nothingness, outside space-time and beyond it.

Gotcha, good to know given the scans were unsourced.

I'm not doubting you here, it's just that from what I understand the wiki's standards state that trascending space time as Beyond Dimensional Existence Type 2 does puts you at 1-A. No issue with Type 1 though.

 

[William_Joee]

Gotcha, good to know given the scans were unsourced.

I'm not doubting you here, it's just that from what I understand the wiki's standards state that trascending space time as Beyond Dimensional Existence Type 2 does puts you at 1-A. No issue with Type 1 though.

what do you mean? my scans are sourced

 

[William_Joee]

Gotcha, good to know given the scans were unsourced.

I'm not doubting you here, it's just that from what I understand the wiki's standards state that trascending space time as Beyond Dimensional Existence Type 2 does puts you at 1-A. No issue with Type 1 though.

Scan Source : Doraemon Space Exploration (released in 1992)

 

[William_Joee]

bump

 

[TartaChocholate]

Scan Source : Doraemon Space Exploration (released in 1992)

Yeah, this is what I meant. My bad, dude, I missed this bit in the original post.

 

[William_Joee]

Yeah, this is what I meant. My bad, dude, I missed this bit in the original post.

do you agree?

 

[TartaChocholate]

Yeah. I never disagreed to be honest, just was wondering about what I thought was missing.

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

BDE type 2 are for qualitative superiority, so basically 1-A. I don't agree with BDE type 2.

 

[William_Joee]

BDE type 2 are for qualitative superiority, so basically 1-A. I don't agree with BDE type 2.

bro, it has been revised, the bde type 2 character is not placed in 1A

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

bro, it has been revised, the bde type 2 character is not placed in 1A

Did you ever seen Ultima CRT.

 

[William_Joee]

Did you ever seen Ultima CRT.

No

 

[William_Joee]

BDE type 2 are for qualitative superiority, so basically 1-A. I don't agree with BDE type 2.

Do you agree with anything other than Bde Type 2?

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

Do you agree with anything other than Bde Type 2?

Ya

 

[William_Joee]

Bump

 

[William_Joee]

Bump

 

[TartaChocholate]

Try contacting staff members on their walls for their input.

 

[William_Joee]

Try contacting staff members on their walls for their input.

I've tried bro

 

[Livinmeme]

If the NEP is based on existing beyond time and space, that would be fundamental enough, to guarantee a NEP2

 

[William_Joee]

If the NEP is based on existing beyond time and space, that would be fundamental enough, to guarantee a NEP2

yes

 

[William_Joee]

If the NEP is based on existing beyond time and space, that would be fundamental enough, to guarantee a NEP2

do you agree?

 

[Caster_Ren]

Speed: Immeasurable

With his speed, Doraemon has the ability to travel quickly through time, even being able to reach billions of years into the future after the big explosion and out of the universe which is stated to be an endless structure without running out of stamina at all.
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From what i saw in the scans, it just shows us that Doraemon was transported to the "nothingness" by the machine after the machine created another reality, it doesn't look like a speed feat for me, more like a Dimensional Travel feat.

【 Beyond Dimensional Existence Type 1 And 2 】

The world of nothingness is a realm that precedes Space-Time, beyond the limitations of time and space. Through Existence Transfer with What If Phone Booth, this brings Doraemon to a state of existence outside and beyond time itself.
[ ]
[ ]
[ ]
[ https://imgur.com/a/KCUnNS4 ]
[ https://youtu.be/ABs2yXwzGmM?si=xgNYhXewd0_f4HpE ]

【 Nonexistence Physiology Type 1 Aspect 5 】

With the Implementation of the What-If phone's ability to move Doraemon into an independent existence in the World of Nothingness, without any ties, existing in a state without matter, time, energy, or space and having no real physical body which is not affected by the enormous heat of the big bang.
[ https://imgur.com/a/wqqHzua ]
[ https://imgur.com/a/sgQEtrR ]
[ https://imgur.com/a/dBDkfXQ ]
[ https://imgur.com/a/KCUnNS4 ]
[ https://youtu.be/ABs2yXwzGmM?si=xgNYhXewd0_f4HpE ]

These are just a resistance to Space-Time Manipulation i guess, i don't see any reason for them to lack of Space-Time, because what was "Lack" of Space-Time was the Nothingness.

I'd respond for the rest later.

 

[William_Joee]

From what i saw in the scans, it just shows us that Doraemon traveled to the "nothingness" by creating another reality, which is a "Nothingness" where everything doesn't exist yet. Doesn't seem like a speed feats.



These are just a resistance to Space-Time Manipulation i guess, i don't see any reason for them to be Nonexistent and outside of Space-Time, because what was "Lack" of Space-Time was the Nothingness.

I'd respond for the rest later.

bro, it has clearly demonstrated speed achievements with evidence of traveling billions of years into the future from after the big bang occurred until the future,I think you didn't see the scan I gave you

Did you not read everything correctly? What If a phone booth can move the user's existence and destiny to a new reality that the device creates and the user will also follow the laws that apply in that new reality

 

[Caster_Ren]

bro, it has clearly demonstrated speed achievements with evidence of traveling billions of years into the future from after the big bang occurred until the future,I think you didn't see the scan I gave you

Did you not read everything correctly? What If a phone booth can move the user's existence and destiny to a new reality that the device creates and the user will also follow the laws that apply in that new reality

So what? It's just a "Reality Warping", because it created a new reality and transported them into that new reality, it does nothing with speed feat.

Besides, it looks more like a Dimensional Travel feat rather than speed feat, which i agree, well, i haven't sent my response for the rest. I'll send it after i have some time.(⁠ ⁠╹⁠▽⁠╹⁠ ⁠)

 

[Caster_Ren]

Durability: Low 2C

Doraemon is able to withstand the impact of the big bang explosion which produces enormous heat, and is able to fill nothingness with space, creating a space-time dimension.

Stamina: Infinite

Doraemon has the ability to travel in and out of the universe which is stated to be an endless structure without running out of stamina at all. This includes the situations of the big bang explosion, the formation of the first groups of stars, and the solar system that formed the universe.

【 Void Manipulation 】

as depicted in Doraemon's narrative, it depicts the creation of Nothingness, where all elements, including space, time, matter, and energy, cease to exist. This state is often described as empty, dark, and without substance, highlighting the profound capabilities of the What-If tool (in the work, when Doraemon takes out the if box, "If something like this happens If you ask me, I can make a world like that.").
[ ]
[ ]
[ ]
[ ]
[ ]

【 Self Sustence Type 1 And 2 】

Doraemon has endurance in the World of Nothingness or outside the universe, where he can explore endless structures without needing oxygen, traverse the universe without rest, and connect with the primitive Nothingness.
[ https://imgur.com/a/wqqHzua ]
[ https://imgur.com/a/GHjvohU ]

【 Dimension Travel 】

Doraemon's Dimension Travel ability shows his capacity to explore different dimensions, making him an entity outside the Multiverse, capable of exploring diverse realms beyond conventional understanding.
[ https://imgur.com/a/wqqHzua ]
[ https://imgur.com/a/GHjvohU ]

Agree, even though i'm still a bit unsure for some.

 

[William_Joee]

So what? It's just a "Reality Warping", because it created a new reality and transported them into that new reality, it does nothing with speed feat.

Besides, it looks more like a Dimensional Travel feat rather than speed feat, which i agree, well, i haven't sent my response for the rest. I'll send it after i have some time.(⁠ ⁠╹⁠▽⁠╹⁠ ⁠)

bro, the feat of speed is not in the part about creating a new reality but in the part when Doraemon is seen flying and traveling billions of years into the future from when the big bang occurred until the creation of the solar system and the earth

 

[William_Joee]

Agree, even though i'm still a bit unsure for some.

If you doubt which part, let me explain

 

[William_Joee]

So what? It's just a "Reality Warping", because it created a new reality and transported them into that new reality, it does nothing with speed feat.

Besides, it looks more like a Dimensional Travel feat rather than speed feat, which i agree, well, i haven't sent my response for the rest. I'll send it after i have some time.(⁠ ⁠╹⁠▽⁠╹⁠ ⁠)

No, it's not really "Reality Warping" just because he created a new reality and transported them. Shouldn't it be Immeasurable regardless because Doraemon is literally outside the Time Axis and not restricted by it?

 

[Caster_Ren]

If you doubt which part, let me explain

It's unecessary tbh, i agree for now, and i don't have any problem with your proposals besides the nep, bde, and the Immeasurable.

No, it's not really "Reality Warping" just because he created a new reality and transported them. Shouldn't it be Immeasurable regardless because Doraemon is literally outside the Time Axis and not restricted by it?

No, if i remember correctly, moving in Timeless Void will grant you nothing but unknown speed, it can be seen in the speed page.

bro, the feat of speed is not in the part about creating a new reality but in the part when Doraemon is seen flying and traveling billions of years into the future from when the big bang occurred until the creation of the solar system and the earth

It's not, in my mind, it's just that the universe expands and grows up quickly, it's a bit vague to say that they travel through time, if you're saying they have infinite speed, i'd agree tho.

 

[William_Joee]

So what? It's just a "Reality Warping", because it created a new reality and transported them into that new reality, it does nothing with speed feat.

Besides, it looks more like a Dimensional Travel feat rather than speed feat, which i agree, well, i haven't sent my response for the rest. I'll send it after i have some time.(⁠ ⁠╹⁠▽⁠╹⁠ ⁠)

in the reality created, Doraemon et al will be bound by everything in that reality, for example if they go to the reality of magic, they will be able to use magic

 

[William_Joee]

It's unecessary tbh, i agree for now, and i don't have any problem with your proposals besides the nep, bde, and the Immeasurable.


No, if i remember correctly, moving in Timeless Void will grant you nothing but unknown speed, it can be seen in the speed page.

It's not, in my mind, it's just that the universe expands and grows up quickly, it's a bit vague to say that they travel through time, if you're saying they have infinite speed, i'd agree tho.

Yes, it can actually also be a feat of unlimited speed, but the Doraemon Universe is only endless in structure/Ad infinitum, not infinite.

 

[Caster_Ren]

Yes, it can actually also be a feat of unlimited speed, but the Doraemon Universe is only infinite in structure/Ad infinitum, not infinite.

Just put me on disagree with NEP, Immeasurable speed, and BDE, because, i don't think i'd change my mind anytime soon or later. And for the rest i think i agree.

Good luck with your thread bro.(⁠ ⁠╹⁠▽⁠╹⁠ ⁠)

 

[William_Joee]

It's unecessary tbh, i agree for now, and i don't have any problem with your proposals besides the nep, bde, and the Immeasurable.


No, if i remember correctly, moving in Timeless Void will grant you nothing but unknown speed, it can be seen in the speed page.

It's not, in my mind, it's just that the universe expands and grows up quickly, it's a bit vague to say that they travel through time, if you're saying they have infinite speed, i'd agree tho.

No, moving on Timeless Void wouldn't grant you anything but going "beyond" the linear time from the timeline that contains Past-Present-Future wouldn't it grant you Immeasurable Speed? Moving on Timeless Void doesn't grant you Immeasurable but moving beyond the "timeline" and being beyond the 4th dimension would grant you Immeasurable Speed, because at this point you're on the Timeless Void and therefore it's undefined.

Pretty sure I already explained it, they move past the time itself on the universe and then their movement is beyond the linear time itself after that. Isn't that the requirement basically for Immeasurable Speed?