Overlord General Discussion Mk.IX

[FDrybob]

Yes. However, we haven't seen Ainz's own ranged protection animated yet, so we can't use that to compare them.

 

[RulerOfTheAbyss]

oh that's what this was about I was confused lol

 

[FDrybob]

We were questioning whether Ainz's ranged protection is the same as the guardians or if it's superior, as Apeironaxim's quote seems to suggest.

 

[Apeironaxim]

what do you guys think is about the distance between Cocytus and the furthest Lizardmen?
since Cocytus said his Frost Aura would even engulf the Lizardmen spectating the fight should he not reduce its range

ah, never mind

LN says he stopped at roughly 30 meters away from the Lizardmen, though i assume that is referring to the front of the group, so prob a little more then that, but good enough

speaking of, hope we get some more info on guys like Cocytus and Sebas. Especially Sebas, dude doesn't have much info released

i'm sure he won't have many complex and super op abilities as a monk, but anything would be nice. Though i don't know DnD, so if Monks get super stronk there, then maybe there's some hope

 

[InfiniteSped]

Monks can get some insta-death vibration thing if they land a hit.

 

[Apeironaxim]

iirc, the guardians have protection from all ranged attacks weaker than their level. It's described differently from the passage you cited, so it's possible that you're meant to take it at his word.

since Cocytus just says protection from ranged attacks in general, and not just low level ones, would it be reasonable to assume it would at least reduce the damage from ranged attacks of a comparable level, though obv not negate them

 

[Apeironaxim]

speaking of Cocytus

Shalltear: I think those three tentacles that Aura and Mare missed are meant for us to do as we please. Well, we were anticipating that as well, thus we ran at a moderate pace arinskada.
Cocytus: Just. As. I. Thought. Then, I. Will. Also. Draw. My. Weapon. It's coming!
An impact is heard.
Cocytus: SMITE FROST BURN!
A winter wind colliding with something and the crackling sound of objects freezing are heard followed by a shatter sound.
Cocytus: Two more to go. It's not over yet. Razor Edge! Rakshasa!

Cocytus seems to imply his Smite Frost Burn took out the whole tentacle, so wouldn't this make his range with it 300 meters, since that's how long the tentacles are iirc?

Ainz: Branch tentacles beitting of its formidable size. Hoh…Looks like their length can easily surpass 300 meters. And there are six of them. Hm.

yea, at least 300 meters

 

[Muchacho_mrm]

I think so, yeah

 

[Apeironaxim]

anyone else agree?

anyone disagree?

 

[RulerOfTheAbyss]

i really have no clue because unfortunatly I didnt read that side story/ hear the drama CD (forgot where it's from)

 

[Muchacho_mrm]

It's drama cd 1

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Works for me.

 

[Apeironaxim]

Cocytus: I've already activated my skills. Wind! MACABRE SMITE FROSTBURN!
The sound of the two tentacles can be heard soon followed by a low-pitch shattering.
Shalltear: Ahhh…Both tentacles are…My part has been…
Cocytus: Sorry.

Happens again here, with Shalltear's reaction supporting Cocytus took out the entirety of the tentacles he was targeting

so am i ok to change the range of his Smite Frost Burn?

 

[InfiniteSped]

Sure

 

[Apeironaxim]

so since they were likely near the end of the tentacles, as Cocytus seems to take them out entirely, wouldn't this upgrade IWKS's range?

he didn't move from his spot afaik, and he was clearly going to hit the giant tree from his position with it

so 300 meters, possibly higher with Smite Frost Burn and Immovable Wisdom King Strike sound ok?

 

[FDrybob]

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Does anyone speak Japanese? If so, what's the dragon thing at 6:12?

 

[InfiniteSped]

Puts on tinfoil hat

The Dragon Emperor who's bringing the players into the New World is actually the World Dragon boss, the guy who ate all the worlds. Since World Class Items are the next incarnation of those worlds, he's using his magic to bring in those items to him, and incidentally bringing in the players and guilds attached to them.

 

[Apeironaxim]

Where does Yuri's Teleportation come from?

if it's from her fight with Evileye, it kinda just sounds like Yuri was blitzing Evileye

Alpha's answer was to blur into a haze. As though she had performed a short-range teleport, she materialized in front of Evileye and kicked her in the face.

Yuri being much faster then Evileye is already stated before that point

Alpha was truly a fearsome opponent. Every time she tried to open a gap between them, her opponent would come in swinging, several times faster than herself.

This seems more like a case of "being so fast you look like you teleported" rather then actual Teleportation

though if it comes from somewhere else, then this doesn't matter

 

[InfiniteSped]

Ainz straight up says she can't teleport in Volume 13, so, yeah, super speed.

 

[Apeironaxim]

also in Volume 6, Evileye says this when Yuri is fighting her

If she took a direct hit without the protection of her barrier, she would be destroyed.

Is this good enough to add to Yuri's AP justifcation?

Could one-shot Evileye?

 

[InfiniteSped]

Adding that to AP should be fine, yeah. Just add the quote as well

 

[Apeironaxim]

take a screenshot of the quote from Evileye?

 

[InfiniteSped]

https://imgur.com/a/0P4uQgH

 

[Apeironaxim]

thank you

should i add her being several times faster then Evileye into her speed justification too?

 

[InfiniteSped]

Sure, I guess.

It's enough difference to go FTE to Evileye, so it should be a pretty big gap. At least in small bursts.

 

[InfiniteSped]

If Yuri can one-shot Evileye, then the latter's durability shouldn't mention surviving hits from the former, without shields, at least.

 

[Apeironaxim]

i'll change it to taking hits from Entoma then

 

[RulerOfTheAbyss]

I hope blue roses actually does something noteworthy in Volume 14 for mid tier feats (which is likely because I think they'll participate in the war)

 

[Apeironaxim]

question, Evileye says she can overload herself with Negative Energy so that her hits and spells can also inflict negative statuses

even though we're never told exactly what they are, there are several moments where a spell inflicts Negative statuses, like Nuclear Blast

In addition, this spell also generated all kinds of negative status effects such as poisoning, blindness, deafness, and so on, [...]

Ainz also refers to fatigue as a negative status

"No, there is no need for that. Undead like myself are not affected by negative statuses like fatigue. If you're tired, you may go and rest."

so would it be logical to assume Evileye can cause all of those when she says she can inflict negative status effects?

 

[RulerOfTheAbyss]

no I think she meant that she can inflict negative energy type damage (the one that heals undead and damages the living) with all her attacks on top of the normal damage

 

[Apeironaxim]

ehh, that seems like a weird assumption to make when she directly says negative status effects, and there are things in Overlord which inflict statuses directly referred to as negative status effects

 

[RulerOfTheAbyss]

Also comparing evil eyes potential status attacks to Nuclear Blast isn't really a good idea lol

 

[RulerOfTheAbyss]

but she already has some status effects and negative energy on her profile

 

[Apeironaxim]

that's from Sand Field All, this would be with her every attack after she overloads herself with negative energy

 

[Apeironaxim]

it hurts to know that we'll have to wait even longer for Volume 14 because it will need to be translated

 

[InfiniteSped]

Some unknown effects with negative energy, yeah.

 

[Apeironaxim]

so even if we don't say it's the things that have been called negative status effects before, you agree it's not just lifeforce draining?

too bad it will prob never be explored, so not like it matters

 

[InfiniteSped]

do you have the actual quote?

 

[Apeironaxim]

Evileye's first move was to activate her ace in the hole. It was a special ability that would cause the negative energy flowing through her body to overload, and infuse every attack she made with negative status effects.

 

[InfiniteSped]

that works, yeah