Overlord Speed, Durability and Attack CRT

[LaserPrecision]

That aside, the magic they use draws from the elements, Fireball is fire, ice spells are ice, so i thought lightning being a literal element WAS the justification needed

No, that in itself isn't. Because it can simply be electricity. The name can simply be a misnomer. And the speed of electricity varies heavily. Thus lightning speed isn't assume by default.

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

I don't think you understand what I'm mean.
The time it would take Tia to react to the bullets would be low milliseconds.

So Subsonic?

A character faster than Tia is slow as a anail to 100 levels.
Evil eye who is stronger cannot see Ainz mive.

Subsonic+

Azuth can react to Albedo even when she was close because the mech made him stronger and faster.
Meaning Azuth can react more faster than Tia can.

All this does is enforce the Subsonic+ rating.

If it took a millisecond for him to barely get out of the way, Albedo would be 3 digit Mach.
Though if this is calc stacking and isn't allowed then mosr Overlord people become weak because some can only get feats this way.

Isn't that the entire problem with Overlord - all smoke no flame (all statements no feats)?

 

[1HaxyMF]

And how do you know Entoma started firing before she did so? Simple answer: ya don't. And they were also pretty far away from eachother, so you're looking at like... Subsonic or maybe even as low as Superhuman.

because the manga clearly shows Tias hands raise up while the bullets are going at her?
If someone told a person they were going to shoot them and then pulled the trigger it doesn't mean they can react to the bullet because they know someone us coming to shoot them.
Look at the 2nd panal again.

The bullets are on their way. Tias hands are open on her sides.
It can be subsonic but the main point is tia is Adamantium rank. Azuth in the mech is level 80. He is more faster by many ranks because level 80s btilz level 30s. Tia isn't 30 even.
But if that sort of argument isn't allowed here, that us okay. Im okay with just getting numbers for nuclear blast.

Hell, you don't even have a speed to use here, what speed does a bullet bug go at? IRL bullets vary from Subsonic to Supersonic+, there isn't a given speed for a bullet, and you can't even estimate the round because Entoma isn't firing a gun.

It was posted already. The bugs were compared to rifle bullets, which on average aresupersonic

The closest argument that Bullet Bugs = irl bullets in speed is this:

it says they were used exactly like rifle bullets. Similar uses mean similar specs.

So Subsonic?

Subsonic+

All this does is enforce the Subsonic+ rating.

Isn't that the entire problem with Overlord - all smoke no flame (all statements no feats)?

It's subsonic because ppl say calc staking isn't allowed here. Azuth is stronger and faster than people who are faster thap ppl who are faster than ppl who can blitz Tia with no problems.
The calc is assuming Azuth moved in a small bit of the time it took Tia to move. He should be even more fast than that.
But if it's calc staking, then it's okay for them to be that. Even though I can really understand why thinking characters faster than established feats would be calc staking but rules are rules.
I will try and get screenshots of the buildings in the city to help calc nuclear blast. The trailertrailer shows the crater at 57 seconds. Can it be calc with that? The depth of it is also a point that must be noted

 

[LaserPrecision]

Even though I can really understand why thinking characters faster than established feats would be calc staking but rules are rules.

You can upscale the character's from the speeds of others on profiles. You just can't use previously calculated speeds in other calculations, as it grossly inflates the ratings of verses (With enough calc-stacking, you can get to MFTL+ from Subsonic). You'd just denote it on the profile as "At least [Rating] (Perception blitzed [Character who did feat])".

The trailertrailer shows the crater at 57 seconds. Can it be calc with that? The depth of it is also a point that must be noted

Maybe? It's behind words, and the quality is eh (I'm not paying for YouTube Premium to watch a video in 1080p. And the fact that YouTube is apparently doing that now is actually braindead)

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

It's subsonic because ppl say calc staking isn't allowed here. Azuth is stronger and faster than people who are faster thap ppl who are faster than ppl who can blitz Tia with no problems.
The calc is assuming Azuth moved in a small bit of the time it took Tia to move. He should be even more fast than that.
But if it's calc staking, then it's okay for them to be that. Even though I can really understand why thinking characters faster than established feats would be calc staking but rules are rules.
I will try and get screenshots of the buildings in the city to help calc nuclear blast. The trailertrailer shows the crater at 57 seconds. Can it be calc with that? The depth of it is also a point that must be noted

Just calc how fast Albedo was going and how far Azuth moved.

 

[1HaxyMF]

Just calc how fast Albedo was going and how far Azuth moved.

The og calc took things into consideration
1 Azuth should be far faster than Tia can move sincs he can move when Albedo attacks from close. Even heroes way stronger than Tia can't react to them. 2 Flying magic has shown instant acceleration. 3 Albedo was a 100 meters away. 4 Azuth Mech has been said to increase his own abilities. Then it takes the time Tia would have to react and decreases it to 1 milllisecond. That number is even too high since there are other showings of stronger people getting blitzed.
So if Albedo crossed a 100 meters when Azuth moved, a millisecond looks like an okay number to me.
That would be three digit Mach. If it was just that part alone, maybe it could be wrong. But there is another one were someone weaker than the lvl 100 is described as moving exactly as fast as a meteor. That one to can be three digit Mach. The two give similar results. I have to get a Translation helper to confirm the translation.
But it's calc staking I think. I think the rule is a bit weird but it's understandable in some way

Maybe? It's behind words, and the quality is eh (I'm not paying for YouTube Premium to watch a video in 1080p. And the fact that YouTube is apparently doing that now is actually braindead)

Does that mean there is no way to get a number? What about trying to estimate? The movie will be out many months from now.

 

[Apeironaxim]

I simply disagree with your insistence that the Tia thing is anywhere as fast/impressive/foundational as you think it is. You keep insisting she moved after stuff was fired, but not only is there time to prepare while Entoma is very visibly doing something, but her movement is like, she rotates her arm, and only one arm at that, at the elbow by like 45 degrees. It honestly took me a handful of seconds to even see what you were talking about with her moving because it was so minor. I think you're putting WAY too much on the Tia thing. Even if you take the statement about rifle bullets literally, which can have its own problems, this is honestly somethign that im pretty sure could be accomplished at mid end subsonic speeds, if that

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Tell you what, I got some school/uni stuff. I'll calc the Entoma thing afterwards

 

[LaserPrecision]

Does that mean there is no way to get a number? What about trying to estimate? The movie will be out many months from now.

I mean, it probably can be. The quality just isn't nearly as good as it will be when it comes out. The measurements wouldn't be as accurate, but I don't imagine they'd be super far off.

 

[Apeironaxim]

I mean, it probably can be. The quality just isn't nearly as good as it will be when it comes out. The measurements wouldn't be as accurate, but I don't imagine they'd be super far off.

There is also the option of just waiting tbf. The verse isn't going anywhere, there isn't a need for a rush, and it gives me more time to format and collect relevant stuff for an eventual CRT. I get being excited for new stuff, but I personally would rather have the actual footage by itself rather than the footage recorded by a phone in the theatre

 

[LaserPrecision]

There is also the option of just waiting tbf. The verse isn't going anywhere, there isn't a need for a rush, and it gives me more time to format and collect relevant stuff for an eventual CRT. I get being excited for new stuff, but I personally would rather have the actual footage by itself rather than the footage recorded by a phone in the theatre

I was referring to the trailer. Tho I didn't plan on calculating it. I felt waiting was best. I was just saying if someone was willing to calculate it, it'd be feasible. Looks to be 7-A range feat. The lightning in the scene after looks to be somewhere over Hypersonic+. I'd just keep that in mind for after the movie comes out.

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Promised I will Calc so here you go.
Using this

For some reason the site isn't allowing me to post the image:
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Lowball:
Can't find Tia's Height, so I'll assume the height of an Average Medieval Woman: 5' 2'' OR 62 Inches (1.5748 meters)
For Bullets, I'll assume 7.62×39mm (39mm is 0.039 meters) as it is fired by the most common rifle - the AK-47, and I'll use the Bullet closest to Tia.

Distance from point of view to object = object size * panel height in pixels/[object height in pixels*2*tan(70deg/2)]
Tia's Distance = 1.5748 meters * 483 Pixels / (217 Pixels * 2 * tan(70/2)) = 3.6989142053 Meters
Bullet's Distance = 0.039 meters * 483 Pixels / (44 Pixels * 2 * tan (70/2)) = 0.4517732543 meters
Distance Between Tia and Bullet = 3.6989142053 - 0.4517732543 = 3.247140951 Meters

I'll use the highest Muzzle Velocity of 738 m/s
Time = Distance / Speed
= 3.247140951 / 738 = 0.00439992 seconds (Subsonic+ Reaction/Perception)

Highball:
Same as above, but I'll use the fastest bullet shot by a rifle the .220 Swift
Tia's Distance = 3.6989142053 Meters
Bullets's Distance = 0.056 meters * 483 Pixels / (44 Pixels * 2 * tan (70/2)) = 0.6487000575
Distance Between Tia and Bullet = 3.6989142053 - 0.6487000575= 3.0502141478 Meters

Highest Muzzle Velocity for the .220 Swift is 1,284 m/s
3.0502141478 / 1284 = 0.0023755562 (Supersonic Reaction/Perception)

Pretty sure you can find faults in my calc, but yeah that's all I got. Even then not really an upgrade