One Piece Post-Timeskip Non-God-Tiers Update

[Damage3245]

Premise

As discussed in this thread, the current calc for Dressrosa's size has been replaced. Meaning, a bunch of calcs that are dependent on Dressrosa have had to be updated, which affects virtually every Post-Timeskip character aside from the God Tiers.

NOTE: The purpose of this thread is to cover the replacement of current calcs. Brand new feats & calcs, and topics related to the Wano arc are not relevant to this thread.

Calcs to be replaced

• Pica destroys Royal Plateau: 1.8 Megatons ----> 283.1 Kilotons
• Don Sai's Drill Dragon Drill Nail: 2.72 Megatons ---->937.3 Kilotons
• Gladius' Pop Rock Super Arena: 3.59 Megatons ----> 8.2 Kilotons
• Elizabello's and Chinjao's Combo Attack: 10.35 Megatons ----> 4.788 Kilotons
• Fujitora's Ferocious Tiger: 44.1 Megatons ----> 21.7 Megatons
• Elizabello's King Punch: 382.52 Megatons ----> 109 Kilotons
• Fujitora lifts rubble: 420.699 Megatons ----> 21.05 Megatons
• Fujitora's Largest Meteor: 46.2 Gigatons ----> 2.5 Gigatons

• Fujitora lifts rubble [Lifting Strength]: 7,172,821,200,000 kg ----> 1,227,136,100,000 kg

Calcs to be removed

• Pica creates Flower Hill: 7-A (377.58 Megatons)

The calc for the creation of Flower Hill can't simply be fixed by using the new diameter. The original method is wrong as the potential energy for Flower Hill should be measured to the centre of mass; not to the top of the Flower Hill. At the moment I can't think of a good way to find the centre of mass so for now the old calc which uses the outdated size anyway should be removed.

Conclusion

Well, there is no conclusion yet to be honest. I first wanted to get the ball rolling with this thread to make sure that all of the calcs affected by Dressrosa's size have been accounted for. Once that is done then the new figures can be inserted into the existing scaling chain and we can see what the characters need to be updated to.

 

[WrongIdea21]

Goodbye 7A Dressrosa

 

[KingTempest]

283.1 Kilotons / 2 = 141.55 Kilotons

141.55 * 32 = 4.5296 Megatons

4.5296 * 4 = 18.1184 Megatons

That's pretty much it unless Elizabello and Chinjao's stuff get a higher result than half of Pica's punches

 

[RazumaHiroki]

I'm slowly losing my motivation for this wiki. Dressrosa "needed" to be recalced more than 10 times for the sake of it. Calling One piece low-balled is no longer an exaggeration. Call me when the Wano kuni revision is coming, because im not going to deal with this.

 

[Stefano4444]

283.1 Kilotons / 2 = 141.55 Kilotons

141.55 * 32 = 4.5296 Megatons

4.5296 * 4 = 18.1184 Megatons

That's pretty much it unless Elizabello and Chinjao's stuff get a higher result than half of Pica's punches

Didn't Oda say that Post-Timeskip Usopp was as strong as (if not stronger than) Pre-Timeskip Zoro?

At this point we can just have Usopp scale to Sabaody Archipelago Arc Zoro, making scale to this two feats.

 

[KingTempest]

Didn't Oda say that Post-Timeskip Usopp was as strong as (if not stronger than) Pre-Timeskip Zoro?

I wish, it was a false rumor

 

[Theendzero13]

Is fuji liffting strenght getting downgrade as well

 

[KingTempest]

Usopp in the upcoming CRT will end up scaling to 650 Kilotons.

Is fuji liffting strenght getting downgrade as well

Oh shit it is.

Ughhhhhhhh

 

[RazumaHiroki]

Oh shit it is.

Ughhhhhhhh

Wha......

 

[Damage3245]

Is fuji liffting strenght getting downgrade as well

I'll add that to the OP.

 

[Theendzero13]

Usopp in the upcoming CRT will end up scaling to 650 Kilotons.


Oh shit it is.

Ughhhhhhhh

Shame, that is the way she goes i guess, just hope they don't get quicked out of class T completely

 

[Damage3245]

Shame, that is the way she goes i guess, just hope they don't get quicked out of class T completely

Nah, looks like it's still Class T, just lower.

 

[Theendzero13]

Nah, looks like it's still Class T, just lower.

Ok

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

I think that's the saddest thing I've ever seen on this site

 

[RazumaHiroki]

I think that's the saddest thing I've ever seen on this site

I wanna cry. Why is it always One piece that gets this brutal treatment out of all HST? We can't have nice things for at least more than 2 months.

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

OP is literally not allowed to have anything higher than 7-A for Non God Tiers at this point lmao.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Yall couldn't handle one day being fans/supporters of Naruto or Bleach.

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

Even at most we will only get 7-B+ with the current calc's unless we scale to the largest meteor (which we won't).

 

[RazumaHiroki]

Yall couldn't handle one day being fans/supporters of Naruto or Bleach.

Oh? are you implying that Naruto ever has been stuck between 7-A or below for 7 years? also don't get me started with Bleach, cough Universe+.

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

Is it Charmanders calc? If so that was for King Kong Gun and it might have to be recalc'ed to adjust to the new size of Dressrosa.

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

And at least Bleach will practically be Tier 6 forever for a good chunk of the cast.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

I wanna cry. Why is it always One piece that gets this brutal treatment out of all HST? We can't have nice things for at least more than 2 months.

This has to be a joke lol.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Oh? are you implying that Naruto ever has been stuck between 7-A or below for 7 years? also don't get me started with Bleach, cough Universe+.

Literally going below 7-A for most of the characters as we speak.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Yall couldn't handle one day being fans/supporters of Naruto or Bleach.

Of course, I wouldn't be able to read even the first 100 chapters

But seriously, Bleach is just getting massive upgrades these days

 

[Damage3245]

Okay guys, this isn't really the thread for griping about the changes, or bringing up other verses.

 

[Stefano4444]

In anycase, this are just recalc of previous accepted feats, so as far i'm concerned they can be applied.

However there is a matter that concerns Issho's meteors but i'm not sure if i should bring it here or if its better to make a separate thread.

 

[Damage3245]

However there is a matter that concerns Issho's meteors but i'm not sure if i should bring it here or if its better to make a separate thread.

A separate thread, after this one has been concluded would be preferable.

 

[RazumaHiroki]

And at least Bleach will practically be Tier 6 forever for a good chunk of the cast.

It must be nice being a bleach supporter right now...

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

By the way, didn't Gear 4 have a High 6-C calculation?

Okay, and about this? I really remember a calculation

 

[Stefano4444]

Okay, and about this? I really remember a calculation

Was even be valuated and accepted?

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

No more meme's, like King said unless Elizabello and Chinjao recalc results with higher stuff than the Pica calc, then what he proposed is what would happen. Not much to argue. Although maybe Ferocious Tiger can be used to scale certain characters.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Was even be valuated and accepted?

I mean, I don't know if it's been evaluated. But this discussion is also propagating to do recalculation of 2 other feats, so I think it's not difficult to try a upgrade with an unvaluated calculation

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

Is it this one? https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:GodlyCharmander/King_Kong_Gun's_true_power

 

[Stefano4444]

Is it this one? https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:GodlyCharmander/King_Kong_Gun's_true_power

And this feat isn't depend by the size of Dressrosa, correct?

 

[Darkvie123]

Not gonna deal with this Wiki always wilk downgrade The Big 3 and upgrade em again

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

And this feat isn't depend by the size of Dressrosa, correct?

The calculation uses the height of the buildings

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

Even if it's usable, it's done with King Kong Gun so scaling with is sketch. Although technically Doflamingo is the reason for it happening so maybe scaling can be done?...

 

[Damage3245]

The King Kong Gun calc isn't related to the Dressrosa re-calc so it doesn't belong on this thread. We can address it later.

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

That is very true, my bad Damage.