One Piece: Hina Upgrade

[KingTempest]

Hina fought Post Alabasta Bon Clay and defeated him.
She should scale to Small City level (where Bon Clay scales) for fighting and defeating him.
She should also be Relativistic for keeping up with him in combat.
She should also be Class M for subduing him.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

 

[Nierre]

Why does Mr. 1 look so goofy

I agree with the OP

 

[KingTempest]

Oh yeah

She should also scale to him in speed for keeping up with him
So Rel physicals

 

[Theendzero13]

Yeah , i agree

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Agree

 

[Tllmbrg]

She should also be Class M for subduing him.

She herself not really, her power should
I'd say "Unknown physically, up to Class M via her power"

 

[Kachon123]

Hina fought Post Alabasta Bon Clay and defeated him.
She should scale to Small City level (where Bon Clay scales) for fighting and defeating him.
She should also be Relativistic for keeping up with him in combat.
She should also be Class M for subduing him.

I agree with Hina scaling in speed and LS, but AP seems to be iffy to me.

She was only seen countering and caging Bon Clay with her Devil Fruit Ability. In the next scene, even though we see Bon Clay bleeding, this could very well just be the effect of Hina attacking him after she had already him caged. Bon Clay likely had no way to defend himself, if she did attack him while he couldn't defend himself.

 

[Tllmbrg]

I agree with Hina scaling in speed and LS, but AP seems to be iffy to me.

She was only seen countering and caging Bon Clay with her Devil Fruit Ability. In the next scene, even though we see Bon Clay bleeding, this could very well just be the effect of Hina attacking him after she had already him caged. Bon Clay likely had no way to defend himself, if she did attack him while he couldn't defend himself.

I 100% agree with this
I'd further argue that this doesn't scale due to the only other time we see Hina use this power in melee that her limbs warp around a person

 

[Damage3245]

Arabasta Saga Bon Clay is Massively Hypersonic, not Relativistic.

 

[Kachon123]

Arabasta Saga Bon Clay is Massively Hypersonic, not Relativistic.

This is Post Alabasta Bon Clay.

 

[Damage3245]

This is Post Alabasta Bon Clay.

Well, not really. His feat that puts him at Relativistic doesn't take place until the Impel Down Arc. I don't see anything suggesting he was this fast when he fought Hina.

 

[Kachon123]

Well, not really. His feat that puts him at Relativistic doesn't take place until the Impel Down Arc. I don't see anything suggesting he was this fast when he fought Hina.

I agree.

 

[Tllmbrg]

Tllmbrg/SandboxHina(OnePiece)

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I made a draft for what I think Hina's stats should be, I also altered her P&A section

 

[Kachon123]

Tllmbrg/SandboxHina(OnePiece)

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I made a draft for what I think Hina's stats should be, I also altered her P&A section

I disagree with giving her 'Unknown' for her AP.

As a Marine HQ Rear Admiral, she should be superior to the likes of Tashigi, a Marine Captain, for the same reason Tashigi is superior to Marines in lower ranks to her.

This is what Tashigi's page looks like

Attack Potency: Mountain level (Briefly contended with Monet's snow-storms, and even managed to wound her a few times in the process. Should be considerably stronger than most Marines of lower ranks)

 

[Tllmbrg]

I disagree with giving her 'Unknown' for her AP.

As a Marine HQ Rear Admiral, she should be superior to the likes of Tashigi, a Marine Captain, for the same reason Tashigi is superior to Marines in lower ranks to her.

Idk man, she has no actual AP feats
Her fruit is just strong and can restrain people with high LS like Mr. 2, not like Haki can help that much against it
I feel like she should get actual feats before we give her a solid rating

 

[Kachon123]

Idk man, she has no actual AP feats
Her fruit is just strong and can restrain people with high LS like Mr. 2, not like Haki can help that much against it
I feel like she should get actual feats before we give her a solid rating

'Unknown, likely Mountain Level,' sounds good to me.

 

[Tllmbrg]

Y'know what, fair enough

 

[Damage3245]

'Unknown, likely Mountain Level,' sounds good to me.

That's better than a solid rating based on only ranks.

 

[Jibz]

Agree with scaling Hina to mountain level. Disagree with scaling her ap wise to Mr 2. Speedwise its fine to scale her to massively hypersonic, but i wouldn't care if it was scaled to rel instead.

 

[Eminiteable]

Why are we scaling her to massively hypersonic when she currently scales far higher than that?

 

[Jibz]

Well, not really. His feat that puts him at Relativistic doesn't take place until the Impel Down Arc. I don't see anything suggesting he was this fast when he fought Hina.

It was via this notion, though i'd be fine with rel if there's no implication of a gain in speed between the two arcs.

 

[WrongIdea21]

Hina's speed should scale to be Higher than Base Luffy Considering Luffy need Gear2 to evade Hina's attack.
Edit : I prefer her speed to be atleast Relativistic ( faster than Base Luffy)

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Tllmbrg/SandboxHina(OnePiece)

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I made a draft for what I think Hina's stats should be, I also altered her P&A section

Wouldn't it be limited elemental intangibility?

 

[Tllmbrg]

Meh she just contorts he body for the effect and then spawns metal so not really

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Then body control?

 

[Tllmbrg]

Gee almost like I put Body Control on her page

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Oh...

 

[Jibz]

lol, so besides the speed rating being contentious, everything's agreed upon?

 

[Tllmbrg]

Bump

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Agree as well

 

[KingTempest]

Tllmbrg/SandboxHina(OnePiece)

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I made a draft for what I think Hina's stats should be, I also altered her P&A section

Sandbox looks fine

 

[Damage3245]

Maybe Limited Elemental Intangibility for Hina? She can let people pass through her body and bind them, but it's unknown if she can apply this to attacks too.

Not super solid on this one though, so fine if it is rejected.

 

[Tllmbrg]

Meh she just contorts he body for the effect and then spawns metal so not really

Anyways I assume I can apply this now?

 

[Tllmbrg]

Bump

 

[KingTempest]

This can be added @Tllmbrg

 

[Tllmbrg]

Applied, thread can be closed

 

[Eminiteable]

Why are we scaling her to massively hypersonic when she currently scales far higher than that?

^

 

[Damage3245]

^

I can't think of any scaling for her that is far higher than that.

 

[Eminiteable]

I can't think of any scaling for her that is far higher than that.

This is what she had prior to the update, at the very least she should keep her Ori Ori no Mi rating.

Likely at least Sub Relativistic+ (Should be faster than Koby, who's inferior in rank to her), Relativistic with Ori Ori no Mi (Caught Marineford Arc Luffy off guard with her cages, required him to go Gear 2nd to dodge her attack)