Kircdaaa
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the difference is lucci literally right after he says ''im losing consciousness'' says ''cant hold on'' implying he actually fell unconscious lol.
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One Piece General Discussion: Egghead
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the difference is lucci literally right after he says ''im losing consciousness'' says ''cant hold on'' implying he actually fell unconscious lol.
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Right after he crashes on the ship, Lucci's shown breathing hard and has a dotted speech bubble that has a question mark at the end of it next to his mouth. He clearly wasn't passed out despite his eyes being closed. Luffy's attack only almost knocked him out.
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Kircdaaa
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i dont need to prove it the site proves it lol luffy in base with Acoc is one shotting awakened form lucci
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That doesn't dismiss his feats as valid for scaling imo, "authorial intent" can only go so far and that's why we usually place little emphasis on it outside of direct statementsThis is Oda, he's not gonna have Lucci die in one hit. But he did look like a damned zombie after it
Like, I knew he'd lose, and I was praying on his downfall, but this was just crazy to me when I first read it. Dude looked like he was genuinely dying.
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Lucci also said he was going to fall into ocean because he was losing consciousness pre-timeskip, but he didn't.
Also, there are no panels showing him being directly unconscious after his fight with Luffy. And the next time we see him a short while later in the same chapter, he's back on his feet in his human form like he never lost consciousness.
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That's literally irrelevant, at minimum you could have Luffy knock him out with one punch. Not clash evenly with him in Gear 5
It's pretty blatant Lucci has some top tier scaling, regardless of personal belief
It's pretty blatant Lucci has some top tier scaling, regardless of personal belief
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This site doesn't prove anything you just said. But if you want to continue to be loud and wrong, go right on ahead, I won't stop you lol.
DaMonkeMan
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The clash was a pretty blatant callback to Enies Lobby, just like him KOing him was a reference to Enies Lobby.
Kircdaaa
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how does falling into the ocean correlate to him literally saying that he cant hold on right before saying that hes losing consciousness implying that he fell unconscious lol
the cope is unreal smh
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"It's a reference so it doesn't qualify for scaling" is not an actual argument
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You're right, your cope is unreal if you don't understand something so simple
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Speaking of Zanpakutos, my friend once asked me what would happen if each of Zoro's swords had a Bankai, so obviously I went "Well, he'd be the strongest Straw Hat. Honestly, the more interesting scenario is replacing every Meito with a Zanpakuto."
Now, I thought about that, and essentially, consider these factors:
-The Meito/Zanpakutos would be able to be picked up or held, but when wielders used them, they would pass through the bodies of people and hit them in the soul like a real Zanpakuto.
-Unlike regular Zanpakutos, this would be able to connect with any wielder, not just one.
-The Zanpakuto spirit would be able to communicate with the wielder.
-If synced up, the wielder could be able to use Shikai, amping the power of the Zanpakuto and giving it a special ability, and Bankai, which is... like that, but far better, typically amping the user 5-10x.
-Unlike regular Zanpakutos, this would be able to connect with any wielder, not just one.
-The Zanpakuto spirit would be able to communicate with the wielder.
-If synced up, the wielder could be able to use Shikai, amping the power of the Zanpakuto and giving it a special ability, and Bankai, which is... like that, but far better, typically amping the user 5-10x.
Essentially, my thoughts are that, in this scenario, since you would basically need Haki or a really good DF to fight on par with a swordsman who's got a Meito and is even with you, even packing a Meito at all would net someone a bounty in the millions.
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You can still breathe and feel emotions while you're asleep.
Kircdaaa
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ig luffys page is still a mess then
Kircdaaa
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ironic, anyways
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While that's true, if a One Piece character is doing all of that, then they're not knocked out. Especially if they have a speech bubble next to their mouth.
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Pretty sure Luffy talks in his sleep all the time
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Show me a panel of Luffy talking when he's knocked out during a fight by an opponent and not when he's naturally sleeping.
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I wasn't even fully sure about the last one and I do not care, you might be right, but ain't no way I'm looking for scans rn.
DaMonkeMan
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I didn't say it didn't qualify for scaling. I was giving the reason for why Oda had him clash with G5. Also, he did KO him with one punch.
DaMonkeMan
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Bruh it's clear Lucci got KOed lol please stop
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Then what's the point of this? Like, the feat still remains, you can't really dismiss that in any way. He has top tier scaling, simple as that
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I'm just saying that it's more likely he included that panel just as a reference to the Enies Lobby one, so you can say it's canon and should be used for his scaling, but it's not very likely that's true.
His top tier scaling is wonky, again the endings of his fights with Luffy and Zoro make me think he either downscales or doesn't at all.
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...What?
I don't care if it's a reference, that doesn't mean it's not canon
I don't care if it's a reference, that doesn't mean it's not canon
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ok
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Given how Oda draws "here's how this inanimate object would look as human",man i would want to see how Zoro's reacts to what they look like.
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How about you take your own advice because it's clear he's not KO'd.
DaMonkeMan
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Watch your tone before I send you to Impel Down.
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Vegeta could hurt Kid Buu
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He's only like 1/4th of his strength and Kid Buu is made of gum, that one is probably the most consistent.
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Enies Lobby.
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I didn't even know we had that emoji until now lmao
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Is the greatest, I agree
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Zoro fans get so mad at such an obvious joke
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Do you only come onto this thread to misinterpret me?
DaMonkeMan
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I think, without Kaido saying "That sword bears Oden's presence!" or what ever, nobody would have said Enma is Oden's spirit helping Zoro or what ever.
