One Piece General Discussion: Egghead

[Kachon123]

Sensing the power in Zoro's attacks

When?

perceiving them

How is that Kenbun? That could very easily be just his perception/reaction speed.

Which again, was after he did all that previously.

Fighting Marco for a bit?

Not to mention Zoro's AP > Queen's, so that makes sense.

That doesn't mean anything dude. Queen took attacks from people stronger than him and got up easily, while King was gassed after 2 hits. You're confusing Durability with Stamina and Endurance.

since Marco was boxing with Queen easily

When?

King's fire obviously focuses on heat. Thus, Zoro comparing it to magma means the heat was akin to that of magma.

How did you jump from A to C? There are so many other things it could be referring to.

Further backed by King feeling confident that it'd kill Zoro compared to his regular heat which Zoro blocked with Armament.

Or it could be just an AP boost?

 

[DaMonkeMan]

When?

How is that Kenbun? That could very easily be just his perception/reaction speed.

When Zoro unleashed his final counter attack King pissed his pants in fear.

Fighting Marco for a bit?

Among other things, yeah.

That doesn't mean anything dude. Queen took attacks from people stronger than him and got up easily, while King was gassed after 2 hits. You're confusing Durability with Stamina and Endurance.

The fact he could take Zoro's attacks and tank some and get sliced by others and power through that means he's not gonna go down easily especially when Queen has lower AP than Zoro.

When?

**** you mean "When?" Marco made him cough blood with a shockwave ball, scratched his face leaving a nasty bruise/scar across it, etc.

How did you jump from A to C? There are so many other things it could be referring to.

Or it could be just an AP boost?

It can only be referring to the look of it or the heat. One is to infer that it's referring to the latter because again, the main purpose is the heat, and we can already see that it LOOKS like Magma so pointing that out is a fruitless effort.
Also I'm pretty sure people have said that AP is just energy/joules or what ever and heat can technically fall under that though it is indeed a different method of it.
Either way, him amping his heat can still kind of be AP.

 

[XDragnoir]

Yeah which is why King's was compared to Magma ( which overpowered even Ace's fruit through some type of black magic and perforated Jinbe, Whitebeard, etc. ) while Sanji can't put a hole in a fat dinosaur with his heat.

No, he was compared to natural Magma, not to Akainu's DF which clearly goes well beyond natural magma.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Nvm, I was thinking of @Tinodesu , dude is worst Sanji wanker I've ever seen

Isn't that the kid who tried to make Sanji 4-C or somn?

 

[DaMonkeMan]

No, he was compared to natural Magma, not to Akainu's DF which clearly goes well beyond natural magma.

Proof of this?

 

[Kachon123]

When Zoro unleashed his final counter attack King pissed his pants in fear.

Proof that that was Kenbun?

Among other things, yeah.

Compared to what Queen did, that's not a lot bro

**** you mean "When?" Marco made him cough blood with a shockwave ball, scratched his face leaving a nasty bruise/scar across it, etc.

That's not a lot, especially considering he healed from all of it right after.

The fact he could take Zoro's attacks and tank some and get sliced by others and power through that means he's not gonna go down easily especially when Queen has lower AP than Zoro.

Do you know what durability negation is?

Proof of this?

He's never seen Akainu's magma dude.

 

[XDragnoir]

Proof of this?

The proof that it was referring to natural magma is that Zoro never saw Akainu at all.

The proof Akainu is >>>> natural magma is that his magma passively vaporizes steel with an aura, magma doesn't vaporize steel even when touching it.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Proof that that was Kenbun?

He sensed the power in the attack and got scared

Compared to what Queen did, that's not a lot bro

Yes it is lmao
We constantly see King fighting opponents more powerful than Queen and/or Queen's opponents and holding his own pretty well.
i.e Zoro and Marco.

That's not a lot, especially considering he healed from all of it right after.

LOL.
Luffy knocked Lucci's lights out, but thanks to the latter's zoan regen/recovery he got up some minutes after. Would you say he didn't get clapped though? In that same vein, Marco was tossing Queen around and hitting combos on him.

Do you know what durability negation is?

Uh, pretty sure King has that too, plus he can dodge.

He's never seen Akainu's magma dude.

The proof that it was referring to natural magma is that Zoro never saw Akainu at all.

I wasn't even disagreeing with that part but okay.

The proof Akainu is >>>> natural magma is that his magma passively vaporizes steel with an aura, magma doesn't vaporize steel even when touching it.

THIS is what I was talking about, thanks for that answer.

 

[Kachon123]

He sensed the power in the attack and got scared

Or he was just shocked that Zoro just cut flames?

Luffy knocked Lucci's lights out, but thanks to the latter's zoan regen/recovery he got up some minutes after. Would you say he didn't get clapped though? In that same vein, Marco was tossing Queen around and hitting combos on him.

Those just aren't the same things at all

Uh, pretty sure King has that too

He doesn't.

plus he can dodge

Stop circling back. I already brought this up.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Those just aren't the same things at all

Both are cases of someone getting spanked and recovering over time, that doesn't negate the fact they got dogwalked though.

He doesn't.

Fire isn't dura neg?

 

[Kachon123]

Fire isn't dura neg?

Not inherently.

Both are cases of someone getting spanked and recovering over time, that doesn't negate the fact they got dogwalked though.

But that literally didn't happen to Queen though?

 

[DaMonkeMan]

But that literally didn't happen to Queen though?

Elaborate.

 

[Kachon123]

Elaborate.

Neither of those attacks were even head on. The first one was durability negation which he barely even took damage from btw. The second one, he just scratched up Queen's face.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Neither of those attacks were even head on. The first one was durability negation which he barely even took damage from btw. The second one, he just scratched up Queen's face.

"Barely took damage from"
Bro was coughing an abundance of blood up.

 

[Kachon123]

"Barely took damage from"

I mean, that's because Queen is a big guy. Even Chopper's slap drew more blood

 

[That_moron2]

Your opinion doesn't matter against facts...

Any reason why you don't think it's canon?

I do think its canon. This quote just doesn't say its canon.

 

[That_moron2]

@Kachon123 @TheMonkeMan

 

[DaMonkeMan]

@Kachon123 @TheMonkeMan

We love you too.

 

[That_moron2]

We love you too.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Days ??? Waiting for Tobiroppo profiles

 

[DaMonkeMan]

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

I do think its canon. This quote just doesn't say its canon.

How?

The two years until he was reunited with his friends have been shrouded in darkness in both the original story and the anime. What happened to Luffy during that time?　In this broadcast, we will reveal the secrets of his "training," "mastery of the High Aura," and "the 3D2Y code!

このほか、レイリー、バギー、Mr.3、ミホーク、ペローナ、サカズキ元帥など、このところ原作で登場していない豪華メンバーも活躍します！

マリンフォードでの頂上戦争で兄・エースを失い、仲間とも離れ離れになってしまったルフィが、仲間と再会するまでの2年間の修業時代にいったい何があったのか!? ルフィが暗号〝3D2Y〟に託した思いとは!?
TVアニメ放送15周年という節目に、原作でもアニメでも描かれなかった幻のエピソードが、ついに解禁!!
8月30日(土)の放送をお楽しみに!!
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In addition, Rayleigh, Buggy, Mr. 3, Mihawk, Perona, General Sakazuki, and other splendid members who have not appeared in the original story recently will also play an active role!

Luffy lost his brother Ace in the Summit War at Marine Ford, and was separated from his friends. What was Luffy's wish entrusted in the code "3D2Y"?
On the occasion of the 15th anniversary of the TV anime broadcast, a fantastic episode that was never depicted in either the original story or the anime will finally be unveiled!
Please look forward to the broadcast on August 30 (Sat)!

寺本：今、頂上決戦から2年後の新世界編としてTVシリーズが放送されています。その2年後と2年前をつなぐ重要なエピソードのひとつが原作＆テレビ通じて初解禁です。
8月30日という夏休みの時期に、本当に多くの人に見てもらって盛り上がっていただければうれしいですね！

勝平：〝3D2Y〟を見ておくと、麦わらの一味が全員そろったときにきっとグッと込み上げる想いがあると思います。
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Teramoto: The TV series is now airing as the New World Arc, two years after the Summit Battle. One of the important episodes that connects the two years after and the two years before is being unveiled for the first time in both the original story and the TV series.
I hope many people will watch it and get excited during their summer vacation on August 30!

Katsuhira: If you watch "3D2Y," I am sure you will have a strong feeling when all the members of the Straw Hat gang get together.

勝平：寺本さん、よろしくお願いします。

寺本：よろしくお願いします。

勝平：昨年までの 2時間スペシャルは「エピソードオブ」シリーズでしたよね。
ナミ、ルフィ、去年はメリーだったと思います。今回は〝3D2Y〟と、変化球ですね？

寺本：かつてはエピソードオブナミやメリーなどと製作してきましたが、今回は新たな試みとして原作でも明かされてない部分、〝3D2Y〟にも込められているルフィの2年間のお話を作ってみよう、というのが出発点です。
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Katsudaira: Mr. Teramoto, nice to meet you.

Teramoto：Thank you for having me.

Katsuhira: Until last year, the two-hour special was an "episode of" series, wasn't it?
Nami, Luffy, and last year, I think it was Merry. This time, it's "3D2Y," and that's a change, isn't it?

Teramoto: In the past, we have produced "Episodes of Nami" and "Merry," but this time, as a new attempt, we decided to make a story about Luffy's two years, which is not revealed in the original story and is also included in "3D2Y".

寺本：「エピソードオブ」としてのいいところもあり、ただの“オリジナル話”ではないスペシャルなものにしたかったんです。
いろいろ考えたんですが、プロデューサーや脚本家の方々が中心となって打ち合わせをして、2年間の修業時代のルフィについてはこれまで映像化されてこなかったと思ったんです。
フジテレビ、そして集英社の担当さんにも、制作の初期段階から入ってもらい、打ち合わせをしました。

勝平：修業中の2年間をテーマにしたのはいいですね！原作でもアニメでも深く掘り下げていない部分ですもんね。

寺本：尾田先生には今回はこれで行かせてくださいと皆でお話をさせて頂いて、OKを頂けました。せっかくの土曜プレミアムなので、今回はルフィを中心に物語を描こう！っていうことになりました。
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Teramoto: I wanted to make it a special story that was not just an "original story," but also a good "episode of" story.
We thought about it a lot, but after meetings led by the producers and scriptwriters, we realized that Luffy's two-year training period had never been filmed before.
We had Fuji Television and Shueisha's staff participate in the meetings from the early stages of production.

Katsuhira: I like the theme of the two years of training! It's a part that neither the original story nor the anime delves deeply into.

Teramoto: We all talked to Oda-sensei and asked him to let us go with this theme this time, and he gave us the OK. Since it was a Saturday premium, we decided to draw the story with Luffy at the center. We decided to do it that way.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Hmmm nevermind

tho where the image from? Or fanart?

 

[Aerozz]

im surprised that no one talked about zoro cutting the laser from queen in mid air and out speeding it in the latest episode
FTL speed feat for zoro

 

[Eminiteable]

Hmmm nevermind

tho where the image from? Or fanart?

Fanart it seems.

im surprised that no one talked about zoro cutting the laser from queen in mid air and out speeding it in the latest episode
FTL speed feat for zoro

Nice feat for toeiverse Zoro

 

[Fireld]

im surprised that no one talked about zoro cutting the laser from queen in mid air and out speeding it in the latest episode
FTL speed feat for zoro

I'm got a Pirate Warriors flashback over this

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

im surprised that no one talked about zoro cutting the laser from queen in mid air and out speeding it in the latest episode
FTL speed feat for zoro

It's nothing new pre timeskip zoro has better FTL feats

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Nice feat for toeiverse Zoro

Isn't wano filler stuff canon tho? Or?

 

[Fireld]

Aren't some(not all) fillers even priror to that arc canon like Sabo's backstory?

 

[SnookB]

Isn't wano filler stuff canon tho? Or?

There was a statement that a lot of (if not all) the added content for Wano SPECIFICALLY is canon and authorized by Oda. It was posted here a few weeks back too

this one

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

I see stupidness EVERYWHERE I need to escape from earth

 

[DaMonkeMan]

I see stupidness EVERYWHERE I need to escape from earth

Stop looking in the mirror.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Stop looking in the mirror.

plz.... Plz!!!!!!!!! Just at least be original or more unique

 

[DaMonkeMan]

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

I have a complex mind but want to be a neutral mind or at least be able to switch between minds

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Same

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Same

 

[DaMonkeMan]

 

[DaMonkeMan]

He's using haoshoku infusion there, but the point I'm making here is that Kaidou is always using buso passively to enhance his durability. I made this point since you claimed that Kaidou's durability without haki doesn't scale to 1 PT, but this ignores the fact he's always using buso for his durability.

No he doesn't lmfao

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

Nice feat for toeiverse Zoro

Which coincides quite nicely with his point blank Laser cutting feat from World Seeker: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:The_Calaca/World_Seeker's_speed_feats