One Piece: 2023 Mid-High Tier Redux

[Fireld]

2. The attack was ryou infused

Yeah! And it was on fire too unlike the against the Flying Six.

 

[Eseseso]

Yeah! And it was on fire too unlike the against the Flying Six.

1. He was sorta unprepared, as Luffy surprised him
2. The attack was ryou infused

Ok that's fair.

 

[That_moron2]

The ones that don't exist?

Base Kaku = One Sword Zoro < Two Sword Zoro = Sword Kaku ~ Zoan Kaku

 

[Kachon123]

I thought we don't use mutlipliers for Zoro's Sword Styles anymore?

 

[KingTempest]

I thought we don't use mutlipliers for Zoro's Sword Styles anymore?

We don’t

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Well that's dumb.

 

[Eseseso]

Well that's dumb.

No it isn't.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

No it isn't.

Yes it is.

 

[Fireld]

We don’t

Is it cuz not all swords give him the same boost, say like Shusui in Thriller Bark?

 

[KingTempest]

Is it cuz not all swords give him the same boost, say like Shusui in Thriller Bark?

no, it's because there's no statement of multiplication

 

[SnookB]

Is it cuz not all swords give him the same boost, say like Shusui in Thriller Bark?

In all fairness if you multiply the same 3 swords by each other you do kinda get 3 times the swording

But yeah, no official multiplier statement to go off of

 

[Damage3245]

I'll help put together a sandbox later this evening + tomorrow, since a large number of profiles are going to need updates I think.

 

[Eseseso]

In all fairness if you multiply the same 3 swords by each other you do kinda get 3 times the swording

But yeah, no official multiplier statement to go off of

But how would a sword wielder with a sword in each arm be stronger than someone using both arms to wield one sword?

The only possible exception would be Asura since that's literally 3 Zoros.

 

[Sus]

Because I'm not fond of the Tobiroppo scaling above the same Gear that knocked down Kaido.

isnt the whole point that the attack was dura neg

 

[Sus]

nvm im too late

 

[KingTempest]

I'll help put together a sandbox later this evening + tomorrow, since a large number of profiles are going to need updates I think.

We honestly don't even need one, it's just the root scaling people who need justification changes, everyone else just needs a value change

 

[Damage3245]

We honestly don't even need one, it's just the root scaling people who need justification changes, everyone else just needs a value change

True, but I think having a sandbox for the characters who need rewritten justifications is important. We don't need to include the characters who are getting a value change.

 

[KingTempest]

That's what I'm referencing specifically

 

[KingTempest]

Daifuku Slices A Mountain

vsbattles.fandom.com

Need this evaluated, could also add to the CRT

 

[KingTempest]

Whamooooo, it's accepted

Sweet Commanders and those who scale now scale to that

 

[Eseseso]

Whamooooo, it's accepted

That was ******* fast.

Sweet Commanders and those who scale now scale to that

Just the Sweet Commanders and Daifuku and Sanji, right?

 

[KingTempest]

That was ******* fast.

Just the Sweet Commanders and Daifuku and Sanji, right?

And those who scale, possibly including Oven

Oven might get a "higher" with Devil Fruit ngl, with that "higher" scaling to Daifuku

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

Oda is too chicken to give non God Tiers scalable Tier 6 feats.

 

[KingTempest]

Oda is too chicken to give non God Tiers scalable Tier 6 feats.

upgrade dressrosa you'll see a bunch

 

[KingTempest]

Added Daifuku to the OP

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

upgrade dressrosa you'll see a bunch

Damage would tear me a new one.

 

[Eseseso]

Damage would tear me a new one.

That he would, Cinos, that he would.

And those who scale, possibly including Oven

Oven might get a "higher" with Devil Fruit ngl, with that "higher" scaling to Daifuku

Oven doesn't scale to Daifuku, neither does Perospero.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

That he would, Cinos, that he would.


Oven doesn't scale to Daifuku, neither does Perospero.

B-But muh cover story with Oven vs Katakuri!

 

[Eseseso]

B-But muh cover story with Oven vs Katakuri!

Wow, I actually forgot about that.

Nice job remembering.

 

[Eseseso]

Wait a sec, shouldn't Katakuri in his Base be 4x Base Luffy due to matching his Snakeman (and even overpowering him at times)?

That'd put Base Katakuri at 2.46 gigatons.

 

[Eminiteable]

shouldn't Katakuri in his Base be 4x Base Luffy due to matching his Snakeman (and even overpowering him at times)?

Definitely not in base when considering those who scale to Base Kat, Kat w/block mochi seems fine though as that was the version of Kat contending with Snakeman.

 

[Eseseso]

Definitely not in base when considering those who scale to Base Kat, Kat w/block mochi seems fine though as that was the version of Kat contending with Snakeman.

That would make sense, but did he use Mochi when fighting Snakeman?

IIRC most of his Snakeman fight was him using nothing but Haki and his own physical blows.

 

[Sus]

That would make sense, but did he use Mochi when fighting Snakeman?

IIRC most of his Snakeman fight was him using nothing but Haki and his own physical blows.

he did use mochi

 

[Eminiteable]

That would make sense, but did he use Mochi when fighting Snakeman?

IIRC most of his Snakeman fight was him using nothing but Haki and his own physical blows.

That was block mochi (or edged mochi in the viz)

 

[Damage3245]

Wait a sec, shouldn't Katakuri in his Base be 4x Base Luffy due to matching his Snakeman (and even overpowering him at times)?

That'd put Base Katakuri at 2.46 gigatons.

Not in base because you also have base Luffy hurting Katakuri, and Gear 2 Luffy matching Katakuri.

 

[Eseseso]

Not in base because you also have base Luffy hurting Katakuri, and Gear 2 Luffy matching Katakuri.

Eh, I'm pretty sure we agreed last summer that WCI G2 Luffy matching Katakuri was a big outlier.

That was block mochi (or edged mochi in the viz)

Fair point, I concede the argument.

Maybe we could have "higher with Mochi, even higher with Edged Mochi [since it's Mochi + Haki], 6-C with Awakening"

 

[Eminiteable]

even higher with Edged Mochi [since it's Mochi + Haki]

Not sure I agree with that justification as Kat still uses mochi & haki together with other techniques & they're not as strong as his edged mochi strikes.

 

[Damage3245]

All of these numerous, consistent 7-A calcs.


I'm just waiting for some random High 6-C calc to ruin it all.

 

[KingTempest]

All of these numerous, consistent 7-A calcs.


I'm just waiting for some random High 6-C calc to ruin it all.

5-B*

 

[DaMonkeMan]

5-B*

W
Godfy FTW.