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Verse equalization, we treat genjutsu like telepathyKawaru Shotomata said:
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Obito Uchiha (Juubito) VS Gremmy Thoumeaux
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^ True, otherwise this will not fair for narutoverse since genjutsu is one of 3 main technique in narutoverse.
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Wait if Gremmy asks whats going on and Obito tells him that he cast Genjutsu and that trap him in it, so why can't Gremmy just imagine himselfs out of it? This is not a bloodlust fight after all, besides Gremmy is MHS+ and Obito is MHS only the change that he blitz before its high.
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^Gremmy is a ****** and Obito's genjutsu is one of the strongest in Narutoverse. Gremmy breaking Obito's genjutsu is extremely unlikely
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If they were both MHS+, then I would slightly be leaning towards Obito..but that's not the case. Combined with his superior speed and hax I'd have Gremmy winning with 8/10 diff
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Gremmy is not Mach 3000+ how did you even scale him from Ichibe?
Either way Obito has speed advantage by quite a bit and has haxxes to put him down and also the power by far.
Either way Obito has speed advantage by quite a bit and has haxxes to put him down and also the power by far.
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I'm looking at there pages right now Obito: MHS Gremmy: MHS+ from the Bambi fodders....I never said anything about ichibie...
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....Pietro Maximoff said:
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^Then that's my mistake then, what I meant to put was 1000+
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"What the...was going on..how am i bleeding...?"Faisal Shourov said:
"Fool, you're under my genjutsu..."
How hard is that? Is not like they aren't aloud to talk during the fight.
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"Fool, you're under my genjutsu..."HokageMangaVox said:
How hard is that? Is not like they aren't aloud to talk during the fight.
Obito kept a perfect jinchuuriki under genjutsu for a long time, Gremmy won't be a problem. Gremmy aint Kakashi (Obito's best friend) to get words out of his month during battle
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"Fool, you're under my genjutsu..."
How hard is that? Is not like they aren't aloud to talk during the fight.
Obito kept a perfect jinchuuriki under genjutsu for a long time, Gremmy won't be a problem. Gremmy aint Kakashi (Obito's best friend) to get words out of his month during battle
Still he will blitz Obito making the Genjutsu useless. He can just teleport himself back to where he was, ending the Genjutsu or his other clones could brake him out or kill him and make another one. Since he confirmed that no matter if he dies what he creates remains, he can create life, not just clones, they are another him.
How hard is that? Is not like they aren't aloud to talk during the fight.
Obito kept a perfect jinchuuriki under genjutsu for a long time, Gremmy won't be a problem. Gremmy aint Kakashi (Obito's best friend) to get words out of his month during battle
Still he will blitz Obito making the Genjutsu useless. He can just teleport himself back to where he was, ending the Genjutsu or his other clones could brake him out or kill him and make another one. Since he confirmed that no matter if he dies what he creates remains, he can create life, not just clones, they are another him.
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Does gremmy licensed summon guenael lee to help him ?
If it licensed , gremmy will win low diff
If it licensed , gremmy will win low diff
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My qoute before:Kawaru Shotomata said:
without any restriction, basically as long as Juubito or Gremmy has the feat to do that then they are allowed to do so.
So yes.
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They can still kill the Greemy that's under the Genjutsu, and Obito has no chance to put Gremmy under Genjutsu in the first place. Becuase of Blitz and BFR, Gremmy easily takes this, Win.Non-Bias said:
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LOL , yes . Obito is Omnipotence, Omniscience, Omnipresence .... He will clear Bleachverse , DBverse , Marvel , more and moreNon-Bias said:
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Raito Utopia said:
Please don't do that, he never insult someone in this match before.
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^ This works as well.Tivanenk said:
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I'm just going to mention that Gremmys eyes are imagined, his brain is in a jar and has no nerves connected to his brain. It's only plausible he imagined being able to see, speak and talk with his powers, along with bleeding and such.
Can his imaginary body be Genjutsu'd in the first place?
Can his imaginary body be Genjutsu'd in the first place?
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They can kill Gremmy under genjutsu. Alternatively, Sternritter can read reikyoku really well, so they would understand that the flow of energy in the person (if we're using verse equalization) is wrong, so they can disrupt that.
^ Hmmm, you may have a point, but reikyoku can easily be disturbed by emotions so I don't how reliable that would be.
^ Hmmm, you may have a point, but reikyoku can easily be disturbed by emotions so I don't how reliable that would be.
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The same questions and gremmy is faster than obito , so genjutsu is not problem in hereQuincy Emperor said:
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Reiatsu can disturbed by emotions not Reikyouku.Non-Bias said:
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I suppose he would need to go through the requirements. But was stoping a Greemy from killing the one under Genjutsu? With his power even if he dies that which was created by him still remains. That which is not created, example a Susano'o made of coockies, can be turn back to normal if he doesn't concentrates. There's also the issue of speed blitzzing.Non-Bias said:
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So since this has been going for quite some time, should i starting to count the overall vote to determine the victor?
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Yes , gremmy has advantaged speed and he can summon Lee help him , my votes for gremmyNot Jim Sterling said:
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Gremmy wins via hax and speed
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Well if I was not wrong the result was 10 To 8 for Gremmy
Its 10 for Gremmy because i think Faisal Shourov is vote for Gremmy since he said he is Slightly leaning towards Gremmy.
Its 10 for Gremmy because i think Faisal Shourov is vote for Gremmy since he said he is Slightly leaning towards Gremmy.
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anyway since the results was so close, I think going to wait for another hour, in case if there was someone who wanna change his vote or something like that.
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Well whatever, as long as it's wasn't me to make that decision.
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Gremmy, takes this. Obito is to slow for even to be a draw. I explain three different ways for Gremmy to win and no one oppose to it. So i assume they accept Gremmy's Wins then, even if you could argue about Obito winning this just how? I changed my vote again for a reason. Kenpachi slashed throught Gremmy an it wasn't working, Gremmy only lost to PIS and in Vs Battle there are no PIS, unless you want to favor one side. Gremmy's has limits, Yes. But does limits are remove everytime he creates another clone of himself. More like the SSJ transformation, Gremmy's power multiplicates x2 for each clone. R.I.P Obito.
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Do we need to have an explanation for this matchup ?
We are talking about a Reality Warper with the power of Imagination.
I don't think we need an explanation.
We are talking about a Reality Warper with the power of Imagination.
I don't think we need an explanation.
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1.Kenpachi who is Small Country level could easily destroy Gremmy's clones and damage the original ,Obito is at least Country level so he won't have any trouble damaging Gremmy.
2.Gremmy couldn't avoid Kenpachi hits and so far there are no evidence to put Kenpachi above mach 1200 (Bambi's soldiers speed) ,and Obito's speed is heavily downgraded here, Illuminati and Gallavant discussed on a blog post ( i don't remeber which one ,if i find it i will post it) that the ten tails Bijuu Bomd is mach 1700 using our accepted meassurments for the holy tree.And Obito as a jinchuuriki can easily be powerscaled to his own Bijuu bombs at least on reaction and combat speed.
3.Gremmy himself isn't such a clever individual who would think of great strategies to wipe out his enemy ,most of his attacks weren't that efficient and can easily be avoided and tanked by Obito
4.Regarding his clones: Each individual clone is as strong as the original and his attack potency gets increased only when they imagine something together which means if faced in one vs one battles (which is probably what's going to happen as seen in Gremmy's fight with Kenpachi) Obito will have no problem dealing with them.
2.Gremmy couldn't avoid Kenpachi hits and so far there are no evidence to put Kenpachi above mach 1200 (Bambi's soldiers speed) ,and Obito's speed is heavily downgraded here, Illuminati and Gallavant discussed on a blog post ( i don't remeber which one ,if i find it i will post it) that the ten tails Bijuu Bomd is mach 1700 using our accepted meassurments for the holy tree.And Obito as a jinchuuriki can easily be powerscaled to his own Bijuu bombs at least on reaction and combat speed.
3.Gremmy himself isn't such a clever individual who would think of great strategies to wipe out his enemy ,most of his attacks weren't that efficient and can easily be avoided and tanked by Obito
4.Regarding his clones: Each individual clone is as strong as the original and his attack potency gets increased only when they imagine something together which means if faced in one vs one battles (which is probably what's going to happen as seen in Gremmy's fight with Kenpachi) Obito will have no problem dealing with them.
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