Not the Bees: 8-C Edition

[Dargoo_Faust]

This might come out as a stomp but considering Harvest could have conceivably killed an 8-C+ character via injection hopefully my gut is right in that this will be close.

8-C versions of both are used. Both have a minute of preparations and start in two different buildings a kilometer away from each other. Both have knowledge of the other's abilities but do not know the location of the other. Speed is equalized, and to put a cherry on the top, Shigekiyo is in a liquor store.

Not the Bees:

Not the Bees Harvest: 7 (Ovens, Iap, Starter, Cal, Schnee, Tactical, Phoenix)

Incon:

 

[Sir_Ovens]

But... Harvest is 10-C?

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

But... Harvest is 10-C?

To be fair, it has piercing attacks that could inject stuff into, as I said in the OP, 8-C+ dura characters.

https://youtu.be/1Uy5pN7OEB0?t=197

https://youtu.be/1Uy5pN7OEB0?t=149

https://youtu.be/1Uy5pN7OEB0?t=118

 

[Sir_Ovens]

That should be on the profile then. 8-C with piercing attacks.

Anyway, Shigekiyo should take this. Not only is Harvest a more resourceful ability than Queen Bee, but Shigekiyo himself is deceptively intelligent. He can outpace and outrun Kuin's bees with Harvest, and destroy them more efficiently than they can destroy Harvest thanks to the latter controlling them directly (He can see what they see). Plus, even if one Harvest is destroyed, Shigekiyo will still be fine. You have to kill them all at once to even do anything to him. However, Kuin will feel if even one of her bees is harmed, which puts her at a severe disadvantage.

It will only be a matter of time before Harvest finds her and overwhelms her.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

I'll mention it on the JoJo AP revision.

For now,

Harvest - 1 (Ovens)

Bees - 0

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

I have actually wanted to make a post on the issues with characters like Hundred Faced Hassan and Shigechi pose to how we interpret AP. Both are incredibly weaker and are supposed to only be able to cause minor damage but can kill far higher beings by a swarm. Anyway, for now,

Harvest FRA

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Harvest - 2 (Ovens, Iap)

Bees - 0

 

[Sir_Ovens]

I mean Low 2-C based on strength in numbers amirite?

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

@Sir Ovens

Exactly lol

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Weedle feels sad for being excluded.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Why not work on including him in another big themed match? Lol

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Maybe a new powers and abilities page called Hivemind or Swarm Control or something like that.

 

[Starter_Pack]

Shigekiyo harvests the bees FRA.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Yeah, harvest fra

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Harvest - 4 (Ovens, Iap, Starter, Cal)

Bees - 0

 

[Schnee_One]

This ain't a stomp due to both characters having a win con

Harvest FRA

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Schnee's reasoning never ceases to amaze me

What are Bee Boy's actual abilities? His profile has literally none aside from "hive mind".

 

[Schnee_One]

You said the literal exact same thing on BH vs Gilgamesh

 

[Mr. Bambu]

I know, it just continues to be an anomaly that I ever-longingly work to unfold

Do you have any idea on the guy's abilities? Haven't messed with JoJos (yet, it is on the to-do list) and his profile has practically nothing.

 

[Genericstickman]

Just push him over to incap him

 

[Mr. Bambu]

wha

 

[Genericstickman]

Push him over and he'll fall on his Harvest which would probably accidentally pierce him

 

[TacticalNuke002]

I'm pretty sure his main method of fast motion involves using Harvest to carry him around. If you push him over, they'll simply catch him.

Shigechi FRA btw.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Push him over and he'll fall on his Harvest which would probably accidentally pierce him

I don't know if I should take this seriously or not.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

I feel like I should point out that him falling on harvest is actually a legitimate means if travel that he uses

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

@Bambu

https://jojo.wikia.com/wiki/Harvest

Forgot to mention Shigechi threatened to sever Kira's carteroid with his Stand. Harvest is a long range stand that is a large group of several hundred smaller stands. Shigechi can use them to "harvest", collect, large quantities of materials around him or survey an area.

He can also use them to swarm stronger stand users like Josuke, Okuyasu, and Kira, and typically goes for weak points on the body, such as poking eyes out, ripping veins, or injecting hazordous materials into the body such as alcohol, which can legit kill you if injected directly in the blood.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Bump.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Bump

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Just one more...

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

o n e

m o r e

 

[Phoenix821]

Harvest FRA,

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

And grace.

 

[Starter_Pack]

Harvest FRA,

Phoenix is the sniper of vs debates.

 

[Phoenix821]

Another title to add to my stats