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NNT Takes on Index chars gauntlet style

Kakine's Dark Matter network still exists in the place where they are fighting via the trails of dark matter he left behind.

he abandons the BFR'd body and transfers his consciousness into a new body from his dark matter network.
 
Elisabeth is cursed to fall in love with Mel every time she revives, why cant they curse him into hating Estarossa? fate manipulation anyone?
 
Looking down on someone does not mean you have no hostility to them. Escanor is just prideful and has no reason to think that anyone is better than him.
 
Rocker1189 said:
Looking down on someone does not mean you have no hostility to them. Escanor is just prideful and has no reason to think that anyone is better than him.
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Same for kakine.he dosen't really let the idea of being inferior get the best of him and instead takes action by killing off whoever is said to be above him with a cocky,cold hearted and ruthless attitude.he's quite similar to estarossa in terms of personality

He also has no reason to hate on someone he just met,So there's that
 
The fact that Elisabeth is cursed to fall in love with Mel isnt an assumption, the fact that they can make others hate instead of love is an acceptable assumption imo.
 
You cant mindhax someone who dosent have a mind,basically


He does not have a mind? I see nothing on his profile stopping him from having a mind.
 
PaChi2 said:
the fact that they can make others hate instead of love is an acceptable assumption imo.
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That's still a fan interpretation that is only accepted by you and is not supported by the offcial canon storyline,thus a headcanon

acceptable to you or not,that is easily displaced completely by canonicity.
 
Kakines body post revivsl is just dark matter. He has no organs, doesnt breathe, sleep or eat anymore either.
 
LordAizenSama said:
Kakines body post revivsl is just dark matter. He has no organs, doesnt breathe, sleep or eat anymore either.
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That does not mean he does not have a mind... It just means his organs are not in his body. It was never stated that Giwther needs to affect the brain as far as I am aware.
 
That's still a fan interpretation that is only accepted by you and is not supported by the offcial canon storyline,thus a headcanon

acceptable to you or not,that is easily displaced completely by canonicity.

"Mortified by Zeldris words Elizabeth asks the meaning of his words and Zeldris reveals her original self was cursed after her death to be reincarnated with all her memories lost and inevitably meeting Meliodas again."

She is destined to fall in love with him.
 
Gowthers rewrite: A multitude of light arrows are fired at the enemy, passing through any shielding or armor. Upon contact, Gowther can rewrite the memories of anyone struck by these light arrows. However, this technique's effect is only superficial and the targets will return to normal once they realize the inconsistencies in their memories. Any new memories created while under the effect of this ability will also be erased.

No brain is mentioned.
 
PaChi2 said:
"Mortified by Zeldris words Elizabeth asks the meaning of his words and Zeldris reveals her original self was cursed after her death to be reincarnated with all her memories lost and inevitably meeting Meliodas again."

She is destined to fall in love with him.
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Love=/=Hate

Unless you have a scan/event that shows the instance of a hateful curse,that is nothinbg but a headcanon interpreted and accepted by you only and is displaced easily by canonicity
 
Rocker1189 said:
Gowthers rewrite: A multitude of light arrows are fired at the enemy, passing through any shielding or armor. Upon contact, Gowther can rewrite the memories of anyone struck by these light arrows. However, this technique's effect is only superficial and the targets will return to normal once they realize the inconsistencies in their memories. Any new memories created while under the effect of this ability will also be erased.

No brain is mentioned.
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kakine's consciousness always exists as long as dark matter exists.

Even if he somehow mindhaxes one body,the dark matter network can easily reform another body and transfer his consciousness into the new body.
 
Yomi Schwarz said:
kakine's consciousness always exists as long as dark matter exists.

Even if he somehow mindhaxes one body,the dark matter network can easily reform another body and transfer his consciousness into the new body.
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Except the mindhax affects the mind not the body of the target. If he is hit and for whatever reason he reforms his mind will still be under its effects because it is not his body that is being controlled. It is not like his concouisness has been destroyed or anything.
 
You do realize that the moment they mind hax him he will hate Estarossa and lose, right?
 
Make him fall in love with someone, Estarossa kills that someone. Hatred. Profit. ovo
 
And?

The fact that kakine can make clones with seperate consciousness proves he has other copies of his own.Affecting one dosen't mean shit
 
You cant mindhax someone who dosent have a mind,basically

On the contrary you can, as long as said person has a consciousness it works unless the mind hax has an in stated issue with it
 
Yomi Schwarz said:
And?

The fact that kakine can make clones with seperate consciousness proves he has other copies of his own.Affecting one dosen't mean shit
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Does he do this instantly in character? If he does not then it does not matter. He does not know their abilities as far as I am aware.
 
The burden of proof should be on the person using mind control, not the other way around. They need to prove their mindhax works on people without a mind. A consciousness /=/ a mind

Its like saying gowther can mindhax a AI/Robot.
 
Rocker1189 said:
Does he do this instantly in character? If he does not then it does not matter. He does not know their abilities as far as I am aware.
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How does that matter?

Even without any existing vessel of his consciousness,the network can still reform him a new body and a new consciousness infinitely as long as dark matter exists.
 
Also, well, the fact that if any of the Kakines turns his back on Zeldris they become his slaves.
 
LordAizenSama said:
The burden of proof should be on the person using mind control, not the other way around. They need to prove their mindhax works on people without a mind. A consciousness /=/ a mind

Its like saying gowther can mindhax a AI/Robot.
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I mean why would he not be? As long as it is sufficiently advanced nothing seems to say that he can not.
 
Yomi Schwarz said:
How does that matter?

Even without any existing vessel of his consciousness,the network can still reform him a new body and a new consciousness infinitely as long as dark matter exists.
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If that is the case then yeah mind hax will proabbaly not work.
 
PaChi2 said:
LordAizenSama said:
The burden of proof should be on the person using mind control, not the other way around. They need to prove their mindhax works on people without a mind. A consciousness /=/ a mind

Its like saying gowther can mindhax a AI/Robot.
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Gowther is a doll without an actual brain/mind.
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What? uhm...ok

Burden of proof is still there/
 
Gowther is a doll without an actual brain/mind.

I know, but hes using a ability on others, not himself.
 
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