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At this point I might look though older Vs threads to see which was more overused between Soul crush GG Vs Genjitsu GG.
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Ninja-Pirate-Mink-Samurai Alliance Vs the Allied Shinobi Forces Vs The Clover Kingdom+Heart Kingdom+Himo
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I don’t really see the possibility of anyone here figuring out who in the black bulls mega zord are spamming said fate manipulation defense and who is supplying anyone magic power.
Nacht and Gauche alone can occupy everyone with their clones etc. The Black bull base also attacks multiple opponents as well. So if anyone is looking for Vanessa and/or Charmy, they will have to find a way to deal with the distractions from the onslaught of not just the Black bull members but every other team. They might also worry about some of their teammates dying. Etc. etc.
So If there really is a possibility it’s negligible tbh.
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Henry lacks feats of sensing people who invade.
The hideout is way too big for people to notice who invades it and their exact whereabouts, also Robin can just produce limbs like only eyes and they wouldn't know
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Not really it froze the entire area even other animals were frozen. Teleportation and Spammable Mass BFR (Merlin's teleportation power is at a high level, significantly superior to her apprentice Vivian's teleportation[12]. She has the ability to teleport herself, other people[13][14], and groups[4] or summon an object[15] to specific locations thousands of miles distant),
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Naruto characters might, they ninja they gonna do reconnaissance, Shikamaru smart af
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Sins characters are smarter they have information analysis and can Gowther can read minds.
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I'm not 100% sure it's limited to single targets.
It works around the vicinity of the target aswell. Iirc a nearby bird also got frozen in time aswell. Plus her gestures are quick and wouldn't really hinder her
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Bro
Luffy (Kenbunshoku)
Zoro (Kenbunshoku)
Sanji (Kenbunshoku)
Jinbe (Kenbunshoku)
Usopp (Kenbunshoku)
Robin (Project Eyes)
Neji (Byakugan)
Hinata (Byakugan)
Shino (Bugs)
Sai (Ink Creature Reconnaissance)
It's way too easy
Luffy (Kenbunshoku)
Zoro (Kenbunshoku)
Sanji (Kenbunshoku)
Jinbe (Kenbunshoku)
Usopp (Kenbunshoku)
Robin (Project Eyes)
Neji (Byakugan)
Hinata (Byakugan)
Shino (Bugs)
Sai (Ink Creature Reconnaissance)
It's way too easy
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smarter than who? nearly everyone in Konoha 12 have Information analysis and Shikamaru Trumps all of them pretty badly
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Gauche and Nacht are also smart as ****. Also Nacht very likely to give the bulls a massive stealth advantage as well with his mana zone or kids playground.
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Bet, I have time to stomp your dishonesty into the dirt. Asta forms a connection with the former Eye of the Midnight Sun members, including Sally, and recruits them into the Black Bulls, even allowing them on their Raging Black Bull (hideout, where Vanessa stays), which is proven, because they all charge together to save Yami. Vanessa‘s magic affects the entire structure, which houses Sally.
It worked because Asta saw her as a friend, and Asta is family. Vanessa as no idea who in the slightest **** Robin is.
This is a completely moot point, considering the instance when she first got the power, and the instance she protected Sally are 100+ chapters apart, so you’re just using your standard rat tactics in order to discredit the evidence.
No, you’re lying about it, as if it’s said anywhere that it protects anyone close, when it specifically makes possibilities better for the caster. Why would Rogue, who is CONSTANTLY on Vanessa’s shoulder, let that happen? You’re just making up points that have no logical sense that are riddled with deceit.
Disproven.
Stop with your rat arguments and I will.
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Merlin
has information analysis and extraordinary genius.
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Who are you responding to?
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Not
Clone won’t be a problem because of the danmaku the sins have I mean ban alone killed countless indura spawn around Britannia they would still all get bfr and everyone will be frozen in time.
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Glazing
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Merlin started using bfr against a lot of people because she was pushed and that’s like her starting moves and absolute cancel and magic seal.
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Okay
Idky you're so hostile
Vanessa can support her allies from extremely far distances away.
Vanessa said that if Sally moves away from the close vicinity of the group, her ability wouldn't cover her cause she's not a black bull.
All that shit you said just now was bullshit.
For someone who accuses people of lying, you like to make up stories about nothing.
Deadass your entire argument was just headcanon.
"Dishonesty" "Lying" "Rat Arguments" shut up.
You always do this. You stay so adamant on your point and you act as if it's impossible for you to be wrong, then you act like anyone who disagrees is just vehemently opposed with an agenda.
Shut that shit up and argue respectfully.
Idky you're so hostile
Imma just say this one point cause you said a whole lot of nothing.
Vanessa can support her allies from extremely far distances away.
Vanessa said that if Sally moves away from the close vicinity of the group, her ability wouldn't cover her cause she's not a black bull.
All that shit you said just now was bullshit.
For someone who accuses people of lying, you like to make up stories about nothing.
Deadass your entire argument was just headcanon.
Yeah learn how to talk.
"Dishonesty" "Lying" "Rat Arguments" shut up.
You always do this. You stay so adamant on your point and you act as if it's impossible for you to be wrong, then you act like anyone who disagrees is just vehemently opposed with an agenda.
Shut that shit up and argue respectfully.
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How is it a starting move if she needs to get pushed to her limits to use it
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I am going to be honest here as I see it Naruto and one piece are probably going first because of the bc and nnt hax they either get frozen in time or just bfr. Next BC vs nnt only a fight because of rogue and Asta. Rogue gets absolute cancelled and magic sealed then black bulls gets bfr or frozen in time then Asta gets punched to death by the the heavy hitters in the group. Did I miss anything?
She used it to play around with Vivian sending her to different time zones. And many other times she starts with this.
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Also you guys have to remember this isnt a 1 v 1 , all the teams are working against one another off the bat. its entirely possible if in characters and convenient that one team gets jumped.
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Haki.
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No it did not, she has one spell that stops time, Chrono Coffin, which she used on Meliodas' Cocoon, which took time to set up in the first place.
Only the things near the Cocoon were frozen.
Ex 1. A bird that was landing on it,
Ex 2. A rock falling on it.
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Again the stuff is layered in nnt. Normal wizards teleportation< skilled mage teleportation< Vivian teleportation< Bos merlin teleportation< EOS Merlin teleportation.
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4 Layers of BFR.
Luffy has over 7 layers, Zoro around 6, Jinbe around 4, Sanji around 2 but could be argued around 5.
Good luck.
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how is BFR layered exactly, isnt this more a limitation of the specific BFR as oppose to being >>>>>>>>>
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I'll tackle it in a second
"To play around" so to prove a point-ish?
Stop right there
This won't fall like "this team is an L to this whole group so they fall first"
Should drop by members, not by teams
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All you did was mention ways they can possibly find the one who is casting the fate manipulation spell. It’s from a very inconspicuous cat that might considered a stray since it’s always out and about when defending the hideout.
Sure they might see Charmy giving out food. But like I said in my original post, they have a shit ton to deal with. It’s gonna be a cluster **** out there.
And there is a very high likelihood of Nacht giving the bulls a massive stealth advantage with shadows.
So no it’s not as easy as you think.
Even when Vanessa (very unlikely) and Charmy are found. It’s unlikely they’ll be out taxed. Considering there are things like danmaku and clones from other members to keep everyone at bay. Etc etc.
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also how does Merlin's magic items work
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Nope the entire area was frozen here are the scans
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Their teleportation has no potency though, all that was ever said in the series was that Merlin was better and more skilled at doing the teleportation spell than Vivian
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Resistance
But yeah this looks like a limitation specifically. Teleporting someone and dropping someone in a portal is different
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And I already told you why, she wasn’t a Black Bull, but Asta trusts her. If it protects everyone, why doesn’t it protect Dante? He’s in proximity, yet he runs from Asta.
Coming from the person who ignores any and all context that doesn’t support his argument and hampers on the same point without understanding it’s purpose.
No, I have no problem being wrong, and I have no problem addressing counterarguments, on multiple occasions. You are not one of them, you being the same person who accused me of using anime in a Haku crt when I only utilized the manga. That’s a recurring thing with you, being riddled with dishonesty and misinformation and trying to enforce it and assert headcanon, running off complete ignorance. Shut your lies, and then I’ll talk to you with respect.
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Luffy with just instinct was able to tell who the real Mr. 3 was out of pure instinct. Luffy isn't having trouble at all.
Sanji and Luffy both specialize in the emotional and mental reading side of Kenbun, so it wouldn't be hard for them either.