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WeeklyBattles said:
@Paulo So if the Gems on the planet dont find anything theyre just left theyre?
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They sort of have FTL spaceships.
 
@Dargoo You were arguing that they use it for travel for three threads now, that was the basis for why you argued that its not a laser. Youre really going to change your argument now?
 
Paulo.junior.969 said:
Weekly, they either use it to transport Gems or they don't, you'll have to pick one.
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They dont and i never argued that they did, Dargoo was the one that argued they do. He argued that they do by poofing themselves
 
@Paulo What are you talking about? Ive been arguing that they dont use it to transport Gems for three threads now and thats what im still arguing
 
WeeklyBattles said:
@Dargoo that was the basis for why you argued that its not a laser
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What? No.

It isn't a laser because it's a warp. If it transported the stuff via magic that wouldn't make it any more of a laser.

My reasoning for it not being a laser is that it was a transportation device unrelated to the separate laser the satellite had.

I claimed it transported poofed gems, which are subject to gravity just fine. And I was wrong, which I'm fine with.
 
"No, its not gravity. A gravity based transportation system would be the most useless piece of equipment for a race that passively adapts to resist changes in gravity."

"@Paulo Gems as a race passively adapt to resist gravity, a gravity-based method of travel would be useless to them"

"@Paulo So if the Gems on the planet dont find anything theyre just left theyre?"

^ You arguing that it is a method of travel in response to me saying it isn't.
 
@Dargoo Good, at least you admit youre wrong

Now then as i offered in the last thread and still offer here, would anyone like the exact scan that states that the beam itself doubles as the laser?
 
@Guys


According to the scans, there's a "laser-thing-whatever" that heats up Beach City, right?

So... Why does it's purpose matter?

Like, it could be a popcorn machine, but the calc focuses on the heat that generates, that that energy comes from it's core (power source) and, because it's old af, modern and offensive ship should be capable of similar power output

Right, Weekly?


(Or did I just got this superwrong? Lol)
 
WeeklyBattles said:
@Dargoo would anyone like the exact scan that states that the beam itself doubles as the laser?
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Sure, go ahead. It probably isn't any of the ones you linked on your blog if it actually says that.

@Ovens

Strongly agree.
 
Not when it comes to moving things they find on the planets, there's no reason gravity wouldn't work on those, since they're just regular minerals, but when I brought this up, you backtracked and started saying that they do use it for travel, and used it as a reason for it not to be gravity.
 
@Paulo They passively adapt to resist changes in gravity. This is the reason why gravity doesnt work on them. This is what i have been saying.
 
Yeah, and I'm not saying it works on them, I'm saying it works on the regular everyday non-supernatural minerals they find in the planets, and that's what they use the ship for, to transport those.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
@Paulo They passively adapt to resist changes in gravity. This is the reason why gravity doesnt work on them.
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We know gems adjust to gravity.

The gravity fied isn't used for gems.
 
I'd like to ask to move on with the conversation and go back to talking about the Red Eye feat but this will probably just be brought up again and again while none of the relevant changes can actually be implemented.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Here, Ronaldo's blog after Steven gave him pictures and descriptions of what parts of the Gem ship do.
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Steven only gives him pictures.

Ronaldo is hardly a reliable source.

Everything the computer says contradicts it just switching to a laser, including the laser having to set coordinates for something the gravity field is already on.
 
I'm talking about it because you brought it up. If you don't want me to talk about it, then don't bring it up in the conversation, it's pretty simple.
 
Dargoo Faust said:
I'd like to ask to move on with the conversation and go back to talking about the Red Eye feat but this will probably just be brought up again and again while none of the relevant changes can actually be implemented.
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I 100% agree with the use of the Red Eye calc from Dark

Size while not consistent, the Roaming Eye is pretty consistent, so, the scan with the Red Eye in Space may be the best choice (also cause ut's supposed ti be like... Super big)


Also agree with the method used there, cause we used it before for other similar feats (like planet busting) and those are accepted.
 
@Paulo Please do look through the past three threads if you genuinely think i started this, otherwise please just drop it as youre getting us off track
 
Can we please just put a pin on the laser calc and go back to discussing feats we know for sure will be used.

I agree with using the size of Beach City, and it's consistent with other feats that way.
 
@Aiden

1. The gravity of the Red Eye, its massive enough to give off its own extremely strong gravitational pull

2. The Light Cannons and the Warship
 
@Aiden To answer your question, yes, it would scale to the AP of its core, which would in turn scale to basically every modern ship as the one that made the laser is outdated by 6000+ years and not meant for combat
 
WeeklyBattles said:
@Aiden
1. The gravity of the Red Eye, its massive enough to give off its own extremely strong gravitational pull

2. The Light Cannons and the Warship
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1. So... I don't know, use 1G as a really low end? I have no idea

2. Hope it surpasses Dark's 4 GT for the Light Cannon at least lol

3. I'll have to do it Tomorrow (It's 2 am here and I'm exhausted)
 
WeeklyBattles said:
@Aiden
The gravity of the Red Eye, its massive enough to give off its own extremely strong gravitational pull
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I feel like that's Gravity Manip as opposed to it just being crazy massive, but eh.
 
If you don't mind

Yes, it's stated that it would hit Beach City.

The question of the day is the AOE it effects, Weekly is suggesting scaling it to the area the gravity field occupies, which is unrelated to the laser.

So it's valid for Beach City imo. We have an ajusted calc now at 7-A that I agree with.
 
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