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Paulo.junior.969 said:
So, 7-A Gems?
7-A looks consistent enough for many of the base Gems, yes, with 7-A+ being for the stronger base gems and weaker fusions.

Stronger fusions go into Tier 6.
 
Wait, if the Eye was supposed to destroy all of beach city, would it have survived the impact?
 
Dargoo Faust said:
Paulo.junior.969 said:
So, 7-A Gems?
7-A looks consistent enough for many of the base Gems, yes, with 7-A+ being for the stronger base gems and weaker fusions.
Stronger fusions go into Tier 6.
Yeah, about 7-A+... We'll have to say how it goes, but I recalced the blizzard feat of the Snow Beast at just 150 MT (Still 7-A tho)
 
@Weekly

You need to please calm down and try to stop being suspicious, confrontational, and unreasonable about this topic. We are discussing fictio, not important real world issues, and are just trying to make sure that the statistics for the characters are not exaggerated by being based on outliers or misunderstandings. That is all. Thanks in advance for your cooperation.
 
By the time were finished talking about this, Season 6 is gonna come out and it's gonna open with Steven cracking a planet in half and were gonna be right back where we started.
 
The issue I have with this is that it isn't outright stated that the Eye has gravity manip and even if we were to say that it follows the rules of regular gems, it's not adjusting it's weight to match Earth's. It's not doing it the same way other Gems do it and it seems out of place.
 
Hmm, I feel like a lot of downgrades are being talked about and some people aren't very happy about that. Is there any potential upgrades for the verse we could talk about? I'm still of the mind that Steven has a case for being scaled to the Diamonds for A) Being one himself, and B) He has twice now taken hits from Blue without issue.
 
Sir Ovens said:
Then we cannot assume it has gravity manip when it wasn't stated to have it.
That's fair. It isn't stated to be just massive enough to attract stuff to it either.

That said, I feel like we can make some deductions based on what we see.

We don't see any objects sticking to the Red Eye. If it was actually massive enough to attract stuff to it by nature of it's being, the dust and debris it kicks up from Beach City would have formed around it, as would the water it was nearing..

Therefore I feel like assuming it is just massive enough to have gravity has its own issues.
 
@Cinnabar Oh yeah no current steven almost definitely scales to the Diamonds, there are enough feats in the last five episodes alone to prove that
 
I think Steven isn't really comparble to the Diamonds.

He's half human. So even if he tanks the Diamond's attacks, he won't be seriously affected because he half human.

But on the other hand he still quite powerful because he has the power of a Diamond.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
The water was being pulled towards it tho
It doesn't stick to it, though.

It's practically clean of debris/stuff on its surface when it nears beach city.

Why would an object with such a strong gravitational pull have nothing sticking to it?
 
Pepper14832 said:
I think Steven isn't really comparble to the Diamonds.

He's half human. So even if he tanks the Diamond's attacks, he won't be seriously affected because he half human.

But on the other hand he still quite powerful because he has the power of a Diamond.
I don't think that really follows. Yellows attacks were the ones stated to especially affect gems, nothing about Blue except her Pathokineses is shown to be more effective on gems.
 
Pepper14832 said:
I think Steven isn't really comparble to the Diamonds.

He's half human. So even if he tanks the Diamond's attacks, he won't be seriously affected because he half human.

But on the other hand he still quite powerful because he has the power of a Diamond.
He staggered blue twice, knocked yellow's hand away with his projectile shield and iirc he harmed yellow directly
 
WeeklyBattles said:
@Dargoo The moon is constantly pulling the oceans of Earth towards it yet the oceans dont stick to it
The moon isn't right next to the ocean.

Also the moon attracts objects to collide with it all the time.
 
@Dargoo Because you associated the water not instantly sticking to the Red Eye with it not having gravity
 
WeeklyBattles said:
@Dargoo Because you associated the water not instantly sticking to the Red Eye with it not having gravity
Never said instantly.

And I didn't just talk about water. The Red Eye is kicking plenty of dust particles into the air near the end of the episode yet none of them latch onto it.

I get it for massive bodies of water, but I'd assume it should have enough gravity to keep a decent amount sand on it.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Pepper14832 said:
I think Steven isn't really comparble to the Diamonds.

He's half human. So even if he tanks the Diamond's attacks, he won't be seriously affected because he half human.

But on the other hand he still quite powerful because he has the power of a Diamond.
He staggered blue twice, knocked yellow's hand away with his projectile shield and iirc he harmed yellow directly
I agree that he did stagger Blue. But I don't remember him ever harming Yellow.
 
Also, I had a question, should Steven's Pink hologram form get it's own key, Steven's not able to control it, and it's much more powerful than he is, so maybe it should be separated?
 
The Wright Way said:
@Pepper he knocked her hand away in Change Your Mind.
That's not really a feat. Blue being staggered is more of a feat than his shield slapping her hand away. Yellow was more surprised than fazed.
 
Steven shouldn't really scale to the Diamonds, Specially with Blue's attacks since none of them is meant to truly harm him considering how she views Pink, her attacks on him are extremely restricted at best.
 
Tsubasa16 said:
Steven shouldn't really scale to the Diamonds, Specially with Blue's attacks since none of them is mean to actually harm him considering how she views Pink, her attacks on him are extremely restricted at best.
Even tho she hit him seriously in Reunited before she knew he was Pink and he was equally as unhurt?
 
They don't actually harm Steven because he's half human. His humanity is literally what's giving him the edge to not be subded by hax from the other Diamonds like the other Gems.
 
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