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[WeeklyBattles]

@Dargoo Yes and its not being used, what is being used is the AP of the laser itself

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

The laser is never shown nor is it implied to be related to the area the warp covers.

I've laid out a transcript of the pages as evidence to there being no such suggestion.

The laser feat can't be used.

We've burnt through two threads discussiong this feat.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

@Antonio Every fiction every does the same thing

Steven Universe has the issue far more prevelant that other fictional continuities.

Like sometimes it isn't even in different frames and the height scales are outright incorrect to a hilarious degree.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

The laser isn't getting used. The end.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

This image illustrates the issue with size in SU pretty well:

https://goo.gl/images/s5J2mY

Keep in mind this is all not just in the same episode, but the same scene.

WoG even states size consistency isn't prioritized very much in episode production, I'll have to get the quote though.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Ignore a perfectly legitimate feat out of personal bias, good work Dargoo

 

[Wokistan]

You'll notice we don't scale off the bleach artwork anymore either. SU isn't the only verse where this has led to us disregaring pixel scaling due to inconsistent measurements.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Ignore a perfectly legitimate feat out of personal bias, good work Dargoo

I feel like you accusing me of having a vendetta against SU or you in general has gotten way out of hand.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Dargoo Then maybe stop

Would you feel better if i used just the size of beach city as the area the laser would have affected?

 

[Gojira1234]

Weekly you and I are Steven Universe stan buddies, and I know it sucks that one of our favorite verses is being downgraded, but I highly doubt Dargoo is doing it out of spite. No less against you.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Stop... what?

I think I've said this before but the fact that you can't even recognize the problem with what you're saying is even worse than the fact you said it.

Depending on how you calc it, but sure.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Hey, Dargoo is the one trying to argue that Gems get off planet using the one thing they passively resist

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

It's actually explained that they used it to transport poofed gems for an entire page.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

We only ever see them using it to transport bubbles tho.

 

[Wokistan]

Weekly, not everyone thinks your verses are as strong as you do. People not agreeing with you is not some sort of personal attack, and evidently more people agree with him. Please stop trying to stall progress by repeating how we're all biased or whatever, it's not productive and unbecoming of someone in the admin role. Sometimes our verses get downgraded. Who cares.

 

[Tsubasa16]

If i recall correctly, in that scene wasn't it being said that they were collecting minerals/core samples from planets to see if they were viable colonies?

If that's the case then those bubbled stones would likely be Natural Gemstones from the planet that they were collecting, and not Sentient Gems.

 

[AidenBrooks999]

This image illustrates the issue with size in SU pretty well:
https://goo.gl/images/s5J2mY

Keep in mind this is all not just in the same episode, but the same scene.

WoG even states size consistency isn't prioritized very much in episode production, I'll have to get the quote though.

Well, while i admit the size it's by no means consistent

The Roaming Eye (That's the Rubies' spaceship name?) it's pretty consistent with the Rubies, Peridot and Steven himself most of the time having the same proportions compared to the ship.

So the only matter to solve it's the most consistent Size for the Red Eye, right? (For that calc, I mean)

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Well, we don't have many scans to scale the Red Eye by:

• Scaling to the zoo in space.

• Scaling the debris to Beach city

• Scaling to Amethyst

 

[WeeklyBattles]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...Universe:_Ancient_Gem_Laser#Laser_Feat_RECALC

There, now stop acting like we cant use it

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@And Paulo and Tsubasa are 10000% correct btw

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Wok I care. I care about things being correct. What is being argued here is not correct.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

@Wok I care. I care about things being correct. What is being argued here is not correct.

And people can disagree with you, and give reasons why they disagree, and sometimes you can be incorrect. Sometimes I have to suck up my pride in a conversation and just admit I don't agree with the result and people disagree with me, and that's fine.

It does NOT mean I don't like you or the verse.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I didnt say you dislike the verse i just said youre wrong

The fact that you came into this entire mess with the first thing you said being "Tier 6 Steven Universe is being called out as an outlier? I thought Christmas was a month ago." doesnt help your case.

 

[AidenBrooks999]

Well, we don't have many scans to scale the Red Eye by:

• Scaling to the zoo in space.

• Scaling the debris to Beach city

• Scaling to Amethyst

• Like 90 m Diameter

• Believe me, I tried

• Like 4 meters lol (Gosh SU, ffs)

 

[WeeklyBattles]

The Red eye was only scaled to amethyst in a single shot, in every other shot it is MASSIVE

 

[Tsubasa16]

It's actually explained that they used it to transport poofed gems for an entire page.

Honestly it really isn't, the page itself literally says those gems were collecting core samples from potential colonies.

In the page's context, it makes much more sense that the bubbled stones are Natural Gemstones/Minerals from the planet they were collecting rather than being poofed sentient gems.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Its not stated to transport Gems its transporting samples from the surface of planets to research to see if the planet is a viable colony

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

So, it was gravity?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

No, its not gravity. A gravity based transportation system would be the most useless piece of equipment for a race that passively adapts to resist changes in gravity.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

I didnt say you dislike the verse i just said youre wrong

Hoo boy.

Ignore a perfectly legitimate feat out of personal bias, good work Dargoo

nothing contradicts Mass-Energy other than bias and personal preference

I gave you the damn comic where it happened it was malfunctioning to the point of becoming a god damn laser. Once again, youre ignoring the entire context of the feat for no reason whatsoever.

There are dozens of tier 6 feats, calling the most consistent feats in the verse an outlier is outright ridiculous and blatant bias

So now youre just lying to people? Really Dargoo?

Stop making things up.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

So the samples from the surface of planets which they use to research to see if the planet is a viable colony will passively adapt to resist changes in gravity? Ok, I guess.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Paulo Gems as a race passively adapt to resist gravity, a gravity-based method of travel would be useless to them

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Yeah, which is why they use it to:

transporting samples from the surface of planets to research to see if the planet is a viable colony

and not as a method of travel.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

No, its not gravity. A gravity based transportation system would be the most useless piece of equipment for a race that passively adapts to resist changes in gravity.

Its not stated to transport Gems its transporting samples from the surface of planets to research to see if the planet is a viable colony

Except you just admitted it isn't being used to transport gems.

 

[AidenBrooks999]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...Universe:_Ancient_Gem_Laser#Laser_Feat_RECALC
There, now stop acting like we cant use it

Sorry If you prefered the Tier 6

But, I guess the 7-A makes more sense for

1. Consistency with other feats

2. Maybe (JUST MAYBE) drawing Beach City from Space is imposible, so the direct pixel scaling using Earth Might not be totally accurate


So 7-A may work

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Paulo So if the Gems on the planet dont find anything theyre just left theyre?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Dargoo It is not being used tot transport Gems. Its physically impossible for Gems to use a gravity based beam as travel.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

@Dargoo It is not being used tot transport Gems. Its physically impossible for Gems to use a gravity based beam as travel.

But they aren't using it for travel, so why is that an issue

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Weekly, they either use it to transport Gems or they don't, you'll have to pick one.