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Never Two without Three: Rimuru Vs Arceus

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Well then, Rimuru has been stomped two time, he recently got new stuffs and people claim that this time he could win against the llama, let's do this (again)

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Rimuru Tempest 2
Arceus2018
Remakes soon?
 
Obviously, this is a stomp for Arceus, But Eli insisted that a guy with no multiversal range can affect a multiverse.
 
Rimuru wins via BFR Gambit.

Arceus BFRs Rimuru. Rimuru waits several Googols of Googols of time until his AP naturally is greater than Arceus and therefore enough to break out of the BFR. Proceeds to Time Travel to the moment of battle and erases all Multiverses containing Arceus out of existence.

And before anyone says this is invalid: Rimuru actually did something like that before in canon, so forbidding it would mean restricting Rimuru of his abilities.
 
That's restricting Rimuru's abilities then because this method is how he beat the final boss. If timetravel is not allowed to conform to SBA then Rimuru would have technically lost against Yuuki in-series as well by those rules.
 
NeoSuperior said:
That's restricting Rimuru's abilities then because this method is how he beat the final boss. If timetravel is not allowed to conform to SBA then Rimuru would have technically lost against Yuuki in-series as well by those rules.
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Time Travel is allowed. But Rimuru being sealed for more than a day simply means Arceus wins by incap. It's also extremely doubtful it will reach Arceus's level of AP
 
Characters can win in verse in ways that make them lose by SBA, though. The conditions simply aren't the same.
 
Bfr is considered a victory if the opponent doesn't return within twenty four hours, saying that Im not knowledgable about slime boy and I stopped playing pokemon after the second gen. But according to the rules slime looses.
 
What about Time Travel though? I mean we DO allow the type of causality manipulation or time travel that goes to before the match started and "prevent the enemy to be born and therefore never participate in the battle to begin with", yet on the "other end" it is being restricted? Isn't that rather inconsistent and favoring past-fixated time abilities over future-fixated ones?
 
Arceus sorta always has existed. If his future self can affect Arceus within less than a day of it BFRing present version that's fine, but just being BFRed for undecillions of years or whatever playing the extremely long game means you've been out of the fight long enough that you've already lost.
 
Question why Arceus attempt to BFR first because it always used avatar creation from all showing assuming otherwise it is out character.

Besides, Rimuru can get a let up with absorbtion from Arceus Avatar and gained abilities from it. He absorbs Veldora Tempest (Web Novel) who is High 4-C while he was 6-A. The AP difference is low-balled around 9.93x10^19 from the Attack Potency. This Gap is larger than the AP difference with it and Arceus which is around 5 digits at most numbers. So, absorption should work here and put Rimuru around the same level of Arceus upgraded all it stats, give and give it enough range to kill Arceus.
 
Because rimuru looks like a girl

Arceus is just sorta too big to absorb like that though. AP gap has nothing to do with the absorption here.

It would take long enough to do that Arceus has enough time to exhaust all its options.
 
I mean time traveling back to the time of battle, basically.

But there's another method too: Rimuru timetravels to the past within the place he got BFRed to and therefore never exists "after the end of the battle" and is therefore not incapped, though that might depend on the potency of the sealing aspect of it.

That's not all though. Rimuru still got his other selves, one in the imaginary dimension and another one who is seemingly a regular human on earth. Unless Arceus somehow manages to target all selves of Rimuru, who resists info analysis, at once, all at the same time, Rimuru becomes able to resist any further BFR/sealing attempts. At that point it's probably an incon.
 
Wokistan said:
Because rimuru looks like a girl
Arceus is just sorta too big to absorb like that though. AP gap has nothing to do with the absorption here.

It would take long enough to do that Arceus has enough time to exhaust all its options.
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Rimuru can still gained ability from the Avatar Bodies which is about is about the right size that he can absorbed; he does not really need to absorb a true-body. Veldora's true body was core (soul) and Rimuru just gained upgrade by absorbing his intangible bodies.

My point was Absortion Hax scaled with his statistic changes.
 
Rimuru's absorption works on "parts" as well. He doesn't even require to absorb everything at once to gain the target's abilities.
 
Why are we assuming Rimaru will automatically know exactly what time period to even go back to to try and off Arceus?
 
I mentioned Time Travel as a method to prevent loss via SBA. I never intended to use that as some way to "paradox" Arceus or anything like that. It's basically a meta-argument for the most part, since appearently "returning to the battlefield at the time the battle was still on-going from a future where that time long passed" seems to be an invalid move? So instead Rimuru would just timetravel to the time before the battle even started, though that would only work if the sealing is not strong enough to prevent Rimuru from doing that in his BFRed/sealed state.

But regardless the BFR/sealing argument doesn't work due to Rimuru having different selves, one within a hidden imaginary dimension and another as a human with no appearent oddities (and Arceus doesn't seem to have anything like info analysis anyway). Reactive Evolution triggers and makes him able to resist the BFR/sealing if any of his selves get targeted by that at any point. Arceus would have to use it against all of Rimuru's selves simultanously, which seems doubtful even with his Omnipresence due to Rimuru's advantage in terms of info analysis and perhaps his Acausality Type 4.
 
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