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Natsu vs Asta 7-5-0 GRACE
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yep
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His damage reduction involves deflecting the force of an attack with his sword, so if he directly hit, he is NOT reducing any damage. And no, that is not an unlikely event. Natsu has more range, is overall more maneuverable, so getting a hit in won't be that hard.
I'm keeping my vote for Natsu.
I'm keeping my vote for Natsu.
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No, in both their cases it's actually their ability to register their opponent's fighting style and understand how it works as they fight (and in Asta's case, copying that fighting style)
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I feel like my skepticism is annoying you lol
How is Natsu's maneuverability going to counter Asta's maneuverability, precognition, insti... well... you already know the list of abilities I keep repeating.
C'mon, CHANGE IT!
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Yeah anti magic is a big problem
speedster352
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What reasons?
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Asta doesn't have the same level of maneuverability that Natsu has by virtue of his lack of magic (Natsu can pull things like propelling himself with his flames)
No
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that magic can be taken away with Antimagic, what happens to his maneuverability then?
K then
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He still has a lot of it due to showing acrobatic feats without magic
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So does Asta, which is why I said their maneuverability is on par in the first place
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They're equal, but if Natsu gets to use his magic, he has the upper hand
And also, with ranged attacks like Fire Dragon's Roar and Fire Dragon's Brilliant Flame, Asta's gonna have trouble
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They're 10m away, Asta predicts Natsu will attack, and react accordingly.
by attacking before he fires due to Natsu's charge-up time for those moves, or by dodging or cutting through similar to Salamanda's situation in the witch's forest and Asta also has ranged Anti magic slashes with demon dweller to counter this
I doubt these attacks you mentioned will happen at a starting range of 10m though.
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
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Asta's ranged AM slashes isn't useable since he needs a third party for this someone already addressed it.
Edit: And it's also gauche's magic it's already showned in the anime that light purple or near to that is the color of the slash
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Manga takes precedence.
The issue was not resolved
Asta did not use Gauche's ineffective and incompatible magic to fight Salamanda and the mud monster
Asta used Anti magic
The issue was not resolved
Asta did not use Gauche's ineffective and incompatible magic to fight Salamanda and the mud monster
Asta used Anti magic
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
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Manga yes manga takes first but anime can be taken a supporting evidence
Edit: So just stop using the argument that "AM slashes" it was already said by the supporters of this wiki it's getting irritating at this point since you're completely repeating stuff up and force stuff that isn't
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There is more than enough supporting evidence in the manga. The manga states Anti magic, The manga states Gauche's magic is utterly incompatible no matter how strong he gets and proceeds to say Asta's slash was effective, Salamanda who has seen Gauche's power does not recognize the slash as Gauche's power.
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
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I'm not arguing with you anymore since the color is enough to tell what kind of slash it is just like when demon dweller took noelle's, gauche, yuno (used by Licht) already told what the slash is
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If you are willing to argue in the future you are going to have to show me Gauche pointing out Asta using his incompatible magic and not Antimagic.
Noelle is irrelevant to the discussion, it was actually called a water slash so you are wrong on that as well.
Yuno (used by Licht) doesn't say anything so you are wrong on that.
Listen, the sword's ability to utilize magic is clear, but it can also be infused and used to fire anti-magic slash attacks pre and post timeskip.
I'm open to rebuttals.
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Whatever your wank says still unusable since if he can do it by himself why didn't he use it in other fight, and it was literally shown that he can't use it at will pre-timeskip and he only learned how to use it at will post-timeskip
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Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
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The sword just glowed even asta doesn't know what happened there the second one is gauche is magic duplicating asta so you're just kinda wanking him at this point and you can even ask the other verse supporters that asta can't do it at will pre timeskip.
Edit: And also if he can use it at will he would've used in other occasion where it's useful the royal knight arc, witch forest arc where he can't get near to fana and others so yea you're just wanking him rn
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Lol I'm going back to the topic.
like I said earlier 10m dist. won't warrant ranged attacks
like I said earlier 10m dist. won't warrant ranged attacks
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He could still get away he can propel himself with fire or launch himself upward
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out of character
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
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WTF? out of character? LOL
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bruh... he is a brawler, ready to throw hands. ESPECIALLY if you are close.
Out of character to just fly upwards especially when he has no idea how dangerous Asta is
and by the time he does, he will be unable to use magic.
OP is SBA.
Out of character to just fly upwards especially when he has no idea how dangerous Asta is
and by the time he does, he will be unable to use magic.
OP is SBA.
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
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He will still be able to use magic just nullified especially if you aim to asta, he sees asta using a sword he will step back out of his range when they go H2H after a few minutes. And there areas( don't know what's the right term) where asta can't nullify magic for example if natsu put fire magic in his elbow to make his punch stronger Asta needs to get to Natsu's elbow first to nullify it
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Natsu, based on Mitch's reason
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
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Mitch doesn't have an argument except for the joke
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This assumes that Asta will be on the defensive, regardless Asta will sense his ki, evade Natsu's attack and counter-attack by stabbing or striking Natsu which will definitely take him out of commission.
also what makes Natsu keep his distance from Asta? Does he fear swords?
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I was so confused hahaha.
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Man just walked in and just said "idgaf about any argument against my boy Natsu, brute force gg"
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
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Not that it's just he'll probably see it dangerous not because he knows AM but well since it's swords and i it just came in mind that most of in anime fights they step back after trading blows a few minutes
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