Natsu vs Asta 7-5-0 GRACE

[speedster352]

DF Natsu vs Asta 7b versions only

Natsu Dragneel (X784 to X791)

Natsu Dragneel is a Mage of the Fairy Tail Guild, wherein he is a member of Team Natsu. He is the younger brother of Zeref Dragneel, having originally died 400 years ago, being subsequently revived as his brother's most powerful Etherious, E.N.D. (Etherious Natsu Dragneel). During this time...

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Asta (Pre-Timeskip)

Asta was left at an orphanage as an infant on the outskirts of the Clover Kingdom alongside another baby named Yuno. Excitable and outgoing, he dreams of becoming the Magic Emperor, the greatest mage in the kingdom. However, Asta is one of the rare few, if not the only one to be born without the...

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Speed equalized
SBA
10 Meters apart
5 for Asta
7 for Natsu

 

[CloverDragon03]

For reference, Natsu is 30.91 megatons while Asta is 8.83 megatons

While Natsu has a clear AP advantage here, Asta's Anti-Magic will help balance that out I think.

 

[speedster352]

For reference, Natsu is 30.91 megatons while Asta is 8.83 megatons

While Natsu has a clear AP advantage here, Asta's Anti-Magic will help balance that out I think.

And Asta has rapid development and other abilities that help him improve and react so he should be fine

 

[CloverDragon03]

Yeah, Asta's Accelerated Development is honestly insane to the point where he could defeat Evil Eye Vetto (who scales to 26.5 gigatons) after a long period of fighting. Now, I don't think this fight will get to that point, but it's crazy to note

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Natsu eats Anti-Magic and activates Anti-Magic Fire Dragon Mode, then claps

 

[speedster352]

Yeah, Asta's Accelerated Development is honestly insane to the point where he could defeat Evil Eye Vetto (who scales to 26.5 gigatons) after a long period of fighting. Now, I don't think this fight will get to that point, but it's crazy to note

Yeah but how good is Natsu resistances against power nullification anti magic has worked on those with powernull resistance so it should work

 

[shansome]

Does natsu have dragon force in this key?

 

[speedster352]

Does natsu have dragon force in this key?

I did say 7b versions should I use base Natsu with df or ldf or just use 7b base Natsu?

 

[speedster352]

I did say 7b versions should I use base Natsu with df or ldf or just use 7b base Natsu?

For reference, Natsu is 30.91 megatons while Asta is 8.83 megatons

While Natsu has a clear AP advantage here, Asta's Anti-Magic will help balance that out I think.

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Natsu eats Anti-Magic and activates Anti-Magic Fire Dragon Mode, then claps

Asta still nulls :V

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Natsu eats Anti-Magic and activates Anti-Magic Fire Dragon Mode, then claps

I need to unsee this

 

[speedster352]

Should I use base Natsu with df or ldf or just use 7b base Natsu?

 

[Nierre]

following

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Should I use base Natsu with df or ldf or just use 7b base Natsu?

Do what your heart thinks is right

 

[speedster352]

So what are the win cons for both?

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Natsu is part demon right and demons are weak to antimagic but I wasn't able to successfully pass it so I'm sad rn

Asta probably negs those modes hehe.

Asta will last long in this match and overpower Natsu eventually.

 

[speedster352]

Natsu is part demon right and demons are weak to antimagic but I wasn't able to successfully pass it so I'm sad rn

Asta probably negs those modes hehe.

Asta will last long in this match and overpower Natsu eventually.

So you vote for Asta then?

 

[Arnoldstone18]

not yet.

Edit: I'm leaning towards him but i can't tell if I'm just biased so ill wait for counterarguments

 

[shansome]

I'm leaning towards Asta too because of how bullshit Anti-magic is, Ki, and his funny adaptive thing. Natsu's only advantages are like, physical strength without his magic and the buff DF gives him, maybe? I mean, if Natsu uses his Fire Dragon Slayer punch, for example, the fire gets nullified but the force behind it would still hit right?

 

[speedster352]

I'm leaning towards Asta too because of how bullshit Anti-magic is, Ki, and his funny adaptive thing. Natsu's only advantages are like, physical strength without his magic and the buff DF gives him, maybe? I mean, if Natsu uses his Fire Dragon Slayer punch, for example, the fire gets nullified but the force behind it would still hit right?

Yea that would happen the force will still remain

 

[Zackra1799]

What's stopping Natsu from just Knocking the swords out of Asta's hands via his over 9000x LS advantage and then just pummeling Asta?

 

[CloverDragon03]

What's stopping Natsu from just Knocking the swords out of Asta's hands via his over 9000x LS advantage and then just pummeling Asta?

That'd require a clash between Natsu and Asta, and based on this, it seems like a collision between a fire-coated fist and Anti-Magic would shatter Natsu's fist (keep in mind, neither have prior knowledge on each other, so Natsu wouldn't know beforehand that Asta has Anti-Magic)

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Plus Natsu would have a hard time tagging Asta. Asta has the advantage with predictions, instinctive reactions, and unpredictability.

 

[shansome]

But Asta is also a really head-on fighter(and so is Natsu) there's no way he'll focus on dodging Natsu's attacks if their both in character.

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

But Asta is also a really head-on fighter(and so is Natsu) there's no way he'll focus on dodging Natsu's attacks if their both in character.

True at the beginning of the series

After hearing Fuegoleon advice? He started using his head, he only puts himself in danger without thinking if is to save someone´s life if the situation is dire, in 1 vs 1, he is gonna play safe and form a plan

 

[Arnoldstone18]

But Asta is also a really head-on fighter(and so is Natsu) there's no way he'll focus on dodging Natsu's attacks if their both in character.

Fuegoleon taught him not to do this anymore btw

 

[Zackra1799]

That'd require a clash between Natsu and Asta, and based on this, it seems like a collision between a fire-coated fist and Anti-Magic would shatter Natsu's fist (keep in mind, neither have prior knowledge on each other, so Natsu wouldn't know beforehand that Asta has Anti-Magic)

Natsu's danger sense works on things like anti magic attacks as shown in the Yuka fight, so natsu would know as soon as Asta took a swing at him that his fire won't work on Asta's swords. Natsu has a significant durability advantage here so I doubt that it would do much to Natsu's hand before I'd slip out of Asta's. Punching the blade itself isn't the only way to get rid of an opponents weapon. Even the simple action of knocking the blade away after blocking a hit, would more that likely just rip the sword from asta's grasp with that LS difference.

 

[Zackra1799]

What ranged options does asta have at this point in the series besides throwing his swords, which would be an incredibly stupid thing to do against Natsu.

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

What ranged options does asta have at this point in the series besides throwing his swords, which would be an incredibly stupid thing to do against Natsu.

Throwing his swords, which would be an incredible stupid thing to do against Natsu

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Lol he has ranged anti magic slashes with demon dweller

 

[Zackra1799]

Lol he has ranged anti magic slashes with demon dweller

That's only post time skip iirc

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Lol he has ranged anti magic slashes with demon dweller

Post-time skip

Pre-time skip, he has to channel magic from a partner, like he did with Noelle in the second arc and with Gauche in the fight againts the giant mud man

 

[Arnoldstone18]

That's only post time skip iirc

and that's pre-time skip too against Sally's purple monster thing with demon slayer sword iirc

 

[Arnoldstone18]

with Gauche in the fight againts the giant mud man

Didn't Asta use a ranged attack here?

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Natsu's danger sense works on things like anti magic attacks as shown in the Yuka fight, so natsu would know as soon as Asta took a swing at him that his fire won't work on Asta's swords

This is precog, right? Asta is resistant to predictions jsyk.

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Didn't Asta use a ranged attack here?

In the manga, Asta did a ranged attack after talking with Gauche

In the anime, the energy of that attack is purple, like Gauche´s magic

So, because the manga is just black and white, the first time he use the ranged slash, the color was "Black" (Noelle water) but the second was "White" (Gauche´s purple beams), after the time skip, all his slashes are black because he is using antimagic, so no, he can´t use ranged slashes alone

 

[Zackra1799]

This is precog, right? Asta is resistant to predictions jsyk.

Nope, it's from his enhanced senses as he can tell if attacks are dangerous based on smell

 

[shansome]

Without the swords Pre-timeskip asta would be kinda ****** ngl

 

[Arnoldstone18]

In the manga, Asta did a ranged attack after talking with Gauche

In the anime, the energy of that attack is purple, like Gauche´s magic

So, because the manga is just black and white, the first time he use the ranged slash, the color was "Black" (Noelle water) but the second was "White" (Gauche´s purple beams)

Huh?? so why was it dubbed Anti magic slash. doesnt make sense.

What do you think? an error? cuz gauche magic wasnt even working at all so why would Asta opt for more of Gauche's magic to defeat the monster?

Nope, it's from his enhanced senses as he can tell if attacks are dangerous based on smell

That's what I meant by precognition. Asta cant be sensed due to assimilating Kiato's swordsmanship and dancing with pure athleticism

We need to stop associating the word precognition as something stronger than the word analytical predictions when they are the same thing here

 

[Zackra1799]

That's what I meant by precognition. Asta cant be sensed due to assimilating Kiato's swordsmanship and dancing with pure athleticism

We need to stop associating the word precognition as something stronger than the word analytical predictions when they are the same thing here

resisting someone reading your movements via Ki sensing =/= resisting being smelled

one is analytical prediction, the other is enhanced senses

asta would need something like stealth mastery to counter Natsu's smelling abilities