Nasuverse: Noble Phantasm Revisions

[Apeironaxim]

I don't see how QSH saying he's "releasing" a payload from the Great Wall implies it's literally a piece of it. I really don't see anything that would imply he literally broke off a piece of the Great Wall, his defense system, rather then the Great Wall just fires things

 

[Regidian]

Payload mean mostly "part of" for how much i remember, what would use payload word for tell a projectil they fire ?

 

[Apeironaxim]

There's also the fact the meteor seems to be a sphere, yet the pieces of the Great Wall aren't spherical, more heart shaped or whatever you would call it

 

[Regidian]

And for what i know you can release a part of something from the thing itself so don't know what the probleme with "from"

 

[Regidian]

There's also the fact the meteor seems to be a sphere, yet the pieces of the Great Wall aren't spherical, more heart shaped, and even look a little thin

The first time we see the meteor before spartacus jump, don't seem to be this spheric

 

[00potato]

Aliens:Exist.
Qin:Ah yes, I shall build a wall then throw the wall at the aliens, I am a genius look at my PhD’s.

 

[Regidian]

Aliens:Exist.
Qin:Ah yes, I shall build a wall then throw the wall at the aliens, I am a genius look at my PhD’s.

Throw wall or throw rock seem pretty similar for me lol, even more if the wall are bigger

 

[Apeironaxim]

The first time we see the meteor before spartacus jump, don't seem to be this spheric

Meteor seems pretty spherical to me, which again, the Great Wall parts don't look to be.

 

[Regidian]

Meteor seems pretty spherical to me, which again, the Great Wall parts don't look to be.

This not the part i tell, here it's was after spartacus jumped

 

[Apeironaxim]

Even the calc says it's spherical, so idk where this is coming from

 

[Regidian]

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From that it's not really spherical and have more the form of a heart

 

[Regidian]

Well have to go sleep now lol so will se what people will tell tomorow

 

[Ionliosite]

I honestly don't see any reason to assume it is a piece of the wall.

 

[Regidian]

I don't assume (wasn't even the one to tell that in first), i just personnaly think there are more hint to that (in first i don't know how the hell the meteor can fit in these piece of great wall and how it can be the defense for alien when it's fired at low speed )

 

[Regidian]

But well if we assume that this doesn't came from a part of it then the feat sould not be usable no? Since don't know the width of the meteor

 

[Regidian]

Except if we use the ancient calc and just add the new info (like speed and the evaporation)

 

[Regidian]

Why ishtar was downscaled to high 7-A when her calc is still 6-C ?

 

[Ionliosite]

Isn't the 6-C calc for Gugalanna? I remember it being about it, and it that case, then it is different from An Gal Ta.

 

[Shift_Ctrl_Alt_Delete]

I know this was brought up a while ago but do the Paul Bunyan calculations affect just her Noble Phantasm or her base stats too?

Regardless, I would like to say that one involving the Mississippi River is wrong since it only uses the volume of water pouring into the Gulf of Mexico per second, not the total volume of the river itself. (https://www.nps.gov/miss/riverfacts.htm#:~:text=Using%20this%20measure%20the%20Mississippi,7%2C380%2C765%20cubic%20feet)%20per%20second)

The river itself is over 2300 miles long.(https://www.nps.gov/miss/riverfacts.htm#:~:text=The%20US%20Geologic%20Survey%20has,river's%20length%20is%202%2C350%20miles.).

The watershed size is estimated to have an area of around 3.2 million km^2 (though, I don't how relevant to the calc that is). (https://www.nps.gov/miss/riverfacts...er drains an,of the continental United States.)

I don't know what the actual volume of water is, but it is significantly higher than what the calc uses.

 

[Regidian]

I know this was brought up a while ago but do the Paul Bunyan calculations affect just her Noble Phantasm or her base stats too?

Regardless, I would like to say that one involving the Mississippi River is wrong since it only uses the volume of water pouring into the Gulf of Mexico per second, not the total volume of the river itself. (https://www.nps.gov/miss/riverfacts.htm#:~:text=Using%20this%20measure%20the%20Mississippi,7%2C380%2C765%20cubic%20feet)%20per%20second)

The river itself is over 2300 miles long.(https://www.nps.gov/miss/riverfacts.htm#:~:text=The%20US%20Geologic%20Survey%20has,river's%20length%20is%202%2C350%20miles.).

The watershed size is estimated to have an area of around 3.2 million km^2 (though, I don't how relevant to the calc that is). (https://www.nps.gov/miss/riverfacts...er drains an,of the continental United States.)

I don't know what the actual volume of water is, but it is significantly higher than what the calc uses.

It's about one swing of her axe so should be base stat no?

 

[Ionliosite]

No, it's her Noble Phantasm, so it doesn't scale to her base stats.

 

[SuperKamiNappa]

I know this was brought up a while ago but do the Paul Bunyan calculations affect just her Noble Phantasm or her base stats too?

Regardless, I would like to say that one involving the Mississippi River is wrong since it only uses the volume of water pouring into the Gulf of Mexico per second, not the total volume of the river itself. (https://www.nps.gov/miss/riverfacts.htm#:~:text=Using%20this%20measure%20the%20Mississippi,7%2C380%2C765%20cubic%20feet)%20per%20second)

The river itself is over 2300 miles long.(https://www.nps.gov/miss/riverfacts.htm#:~:text=The%20US%20Geologic%20Survey%20has,river's%20length%20is%202%2C350%20miles.).

The watershed size is estimated to have an area of around 3.2 million km^2 (though, I don't how relevant to the calc that is). (https://www.nps.gov/miss/riverfacts...er drains an,of the continental United States.)

I don't know what the actual volume of water is, but it is significantly higher than what the calc uses.

I'm not sure any of that would scale at all since those were feats from when she was alive (which she never actually was), and Servants aren't necessarily as strong or weak as they were in life.

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

Paul bunyan does scale to the NP of Altera. She was able to take it and came out perfectly fine. though im not for sure how that scales.

 

[Ionliosite]

Paul bunyan does scale to the NP of Altera. She was able to take it and came out perfectly fine. though im not for sure how that scales.

Bunyan has A Endurance, which is the same as Heracles, so anyone who harms Heracles would scale, and anyone who scales to those who harm Heracles also scale. Then again, we already agreed before to not scale Servants to thier NPs for this exact reason, scaling gets out of hand.

 

[Overlord775]

was Paul small or giant when she tanked Altera's NP ? because when she's giant her basic attacks are equal to noble phantasms

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

was Paul small or giant when she tanked Altera's NP ? because when she's giant her basic attacks are equal to noble phantasms

Depends on small, She was more like in her 2nd form. she wasn't big like we seen her the first time.

 

[Shift_Ctrl_Alt_Delete]

Isn't Altera's NP 6-A? I heard that might get changed.

(Anyway, I brought up Paul Bunyan's NP to hopefully get that Mississippi River feat recalced. It might end upgrading other A-Rank Anti-Army NP's if it gets a good result).

Actually, has it been decided how Noble Phantasms scale to each other?

 

[Overlord775]

Altera's NP is 6-A only when she's powered up by a grail

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

Altera's NP is 6-A only when she's powered up by a grail

It was discussed and something about how the Grail doens't AMP attack potency but instead just allows for NP Spam

 

[LehenDuo]

It was discussed and something about how the Grail doens't AMP attack potency but instead just allows for NP Spam

A lot of NPs and spells APs are a funtion of the magical energy spent, that doesn't make any sense

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

A lot of NPs and spells APs are a funtion of the magical energy spent, that doesn't make any sense

Someone else brought it up. I was just paraphrasing. Assuming if I understood it right.

 

[Regidian]

So what the consensus for here now?