nasuverse earth 9/10-d upgrade

[Regidian]

I just disagree with 9-D/10-D moon cell here

and believe that it should stay 8-D

They talk about earth i think

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

They talk about earth i think

Oh, but earth is 6-D at max with Avalon isn’t it

 

[ImmortalDread]

But Low 2-C and 2-A still have the same infinitely degree. You don't need a 2-A structure to be 5-D. Any 4-D structure will enough.

Low 2-C, 2-C, 2-B, or 2-A, if you qualitatively superior infinity of one of them, you're 5-D.

Finally I convinced you , after my endless of discussions on this topic

 

[ImmortalDread]

Anyway I disagree with the thread. Earth is maximum planet level.

 

[Tdjwo]

Anyway I disagree with the thread. Earth is maximum planet level.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Anyway I disagree with the thread. Earth is maximum planet level.

Well yes but that’s without Avalon.

with Avalon it is 6-D

 

[Regidian]

Well yes but that’s without Avalon.

with Avalon it is 6-D

?? Earth is still a multiverse in it's own without avalon...

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

?? Earth is still a multiverse in it's own without avalon

Tell me more please cause I never played the games and other installments except FGO

 

[Tdjwo]

Tell me more please cause I never played the games and other installments except FGO

I thought you knew something about Fate powerscaling Did you forget Earth's textures? That by itself already makes Nasu's earth>>>>>>>>>>>>normal earth. Earth also runs under type 3 multiverse according to Waiver.

 

[ImmortalDread]

Damn so much wanks here. I wish @Damage3245 knew the higher dimensional scaling works, so he would stop this wanking moments.

 

[ImmortalDread]

(tbh it makes no sense for a moon to be stronger than a planet, this crt hopefully fixes that)

Neither earth being 9D or 11D

 

[Tdjwo]

Damn so much wanks here. I wish @Damage3245 knew the higher dimensional scaling works, so he would stop this wanking moments.

 

[Chasekilleen]

any "holes" and counterarguments are already debunked by lore

To be honest I disagree. So, I went back to that 8D argument and the context isn't talking about dimensions in the traditional sense, the context is clear stating how that barrier is the final defense from the Moon Cell's Core judging by the actual context and is cutting off BB from the core. This is something that BB herself said earlier before the 8D barrier statement.

Spoiler: Sakura Meikyuu penentrating into the Moon Cell core

I am currently standing in front of the last line of defense that's guarding the Moon Cell's core

The Sakura Labyrinth is finally able to penetrate into the core of the Moon Cell.

The Moon Cell is being somewhat uncooperative, or its defenses seems to be impenetrable.

Even though I was able to make it through the imaginary numbers at the speed of light.

Spoiler: "8-dimension"

A giant wall now appears to stand before the heroine BB-Chan

It's a circular protective barrier made up of spirit particles that is able cut (off any intruders} up to the eighth dimension (layer).

It seems that it would be challenging for me to break through this barrier

However, if I just cut down this wall then I'll be able to reach my goal

Spoiler: The Core of the Moon Cell

The Moon Cell's Core 「Location」
The Moon Cell and its Core spans up to seven known layers, it is nothing more than additional memory to the Moon Cell. The Core of the Moon Cell manages the moon itself, observes the Earth's and preserves the Earth's past and future and observes and calulates each of the fates branching off from the different timelines and stores it as light particles.

Spoiler: The Moon Cell itself

The Moon Cell 「Setting」
Known as the Moon Cell Automoton is an energy storing device that was discovered within the moon itself.
It is an artifact built by a group of intelligence species that differs from humanity. It is a super-computer that serves as the stages of Fate/EXTRA, the structure has been confirmed up to the seventh layer. With the first layer serving as the surface of the moon itself, able to be hacked by any run-on-the-mill hackers. However, up to the second layer, it is impossible to physically access the deeper layers without being a wizard.

PS: This is the same crap that AkutoYuri tried to pull with me when he ""debunked"" Shinza where he tried to purposely misinterpret "dimensions" as "layers"

 

[ImmortalDread]

I agree with chase

 

[Mageman460]

To be honest I disagree. So, I went back to that 8D argument and the context isn't talking about dimensions in the traditional sense, the context is clear stating how that barrier is the final defense from the Moon Cell's Core judging by the actual context and is cutting off BB from the core. This is something that BB herself said earlier before the 8D barrier statement.

Spoiler: Sakura Meikyuu penentrating into the Moon Cell core

Spoiler: "8-dimension"

Spoiler: The Core of the Moon Cell

Spoiler: The Moon Cell itself

PS: This is the same crap that AkutoYuri tried to pull with me when he ""debunked"" Shinza where he tried to purposely misinterpret "dimensions" as "layers"

This is derailing, if you have an issue make a CRT. Though as said before it will be closed because we have a discussion rule. So you need to bring something new.

 

[ImmortalDread]

You can't counter his arguments = declaring it is derailing.

 

[Hasty12345]

I agree with chase as well, it's blatantly obvious it's not 8D as in higher spatial dimensions.

 

[Tdjwo]

Omg if I see anyone bringing up any type of "debunk" for 8D moon cell again, I'm going to lose it How many times would we tell you, Chase, the entire issue with the moon cell has been thoroughly checked and translated before being implemented in the wiki. Your opinion is wrong. Stop bringing up this topic for the 1 millionth time.

 

[Hasty12345]

Omg if I see anyone bringing up any type of "debunk" for 8D moon cell again, I'm going to lose it How many times would we tell you, Chase, the entire issue with the moon cell has been thoroughly checked and translated before being implemented in the wiki. Your opinion is wrong. Stop bringing up this topic for the 1 millionth time.

I want to see you lose it

 

[ImmortalDread]

Omg if I see anyone bringing up any type of "debunk" for 8D moon cell again, I'm going to lose it How many times would we tell you, Chase, the entire issue with the moon cell has been thoroughly checked and translated before being implemented in the wiki. Your opinion is wrong. Stop bringing up this topic for the 1 millionth time.

Damn other useless comment instead of countering his arguments

 

[Tdjwo]

Damn other useless comment instead of countering his arguments

His arguments are useless. They have been debunked again and again and again and he knows it. All he's doing is pointless and just annoying at this point because no one except those who know nothing about the verse would even take him seriously.

 

[Mageman460]

You can't counter his arguments = declaring it is derailing.

There is literally a discussion rule about this. Not only that, but this thread IS NOT ABOUT 8D Moon Cell. So yes it is derailing. If it wasn't derailing I would actually respond to it, or go get one of the more knowledgeable Nasu members.

 

[Tdjwo]

There is literally a discussion rule about this.

I even forgot there was a discussion rule about this bs. Thank God. Its so ridiculous. Reminds me of those reddit clowns.

 

[ImmortalDread]

How it is derailing if he is countering the background of said this CRT?

 

[Chasekilleen]

Well, no need to be aggressive here.
I'm saying someone people are misinterpretating the Moon Cell and those people who tried to debunk Fate in the past didn't seem to know Japanese all that well, in my honest opinion, at least looking at the past closed threads, it looks like they machine translated with a glance (please correct my if I'm incorrect)
But I'm fine with making a new CRT if you guys don't wish to discuss it here.
It's cool with me. But from the raw scans I'm reading just doesn't add with the arguments you guys are presenting. But I rest my case and I'm happy with discussing this somewhere else if it's derailing the thread.

 

[Hasty12345]

How it is derailing if he is countering the background of said this CRT?

debunking a nasuverse CRT is derailment

 

[Regidian]

To be honest I disagree. So, I went back to that 8D argument and the context isn't talking about dimensions in the traditional sense, the context is clear stating how that barrier is the final defense from the Moon Cell's Core judging by the actual context and is cutting off BB from the core. This is something that BB herself said earlier before the 8D barrier statement.

Spoiler: Sakura Meikyuu penentrating into the Moon Cell core

Spoiler: "8-dimension"

Spoiler: The Core of the Moon Cell

Spoiler: The Moon Cell itself

PS: This is the same crap that AkutoYuri tried to pull with me when he ""debunked"" Shinza where he tried to purposely misinterpret "dimensions" as "layers"

Pls stop talking about this as it's against the discussion rule now

 

[Regidian]

Well, no need to be aggressive here.
I'm saying someone people are misinterpretating the Moon Cell and those people who tried to debunk Fate in the past didn't seem to know Japanese all that well, in my honest opinion, at least looking at the past closed threads, it looks like they machine translated with a glance (please correct my if I'm incorrect)
But I'm fine with making a new CRT if you guys don't wish to discuss it here.
It's cool with me. But from the raw scans I'm reading just doesn't add with the arguments you guys are presenting. But I rest my case and I'm happy with discussing this somewhere else if it's derailing the thread.

Crt about 8D moon cell have a discussion rule about not being able to being made.

 

[ImmortalDread]

Eh, I feel this verse is actually sus right now. Need to contact some famous debunkers to check it

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Discussion rule with the threads given does not at all seem to be tackling on what premise of Chase's reason for downgrading is. So yes you can consider information Chase is bringing to the table new and not against the rule if he wants to bring it to a CRT.

 

[Mageman460]

How it is derailing if he is countering the background of said this CRT?

Because 8D Moon Cell has been accepted in another thread for a long time. So if you want to change 8D Moon Cell you need to make a new CRT. Otherwise bringing up grievances with the rating in a thread that is not about downgrading the Moon Cell is derailing. It's like going into one of the current Dragon Ball threads and saying "Goku and Beerus weren't actually going to destroy the universe actually."

debunking a nasuverse CRT is derailment

Guess I derailed this thread when I actually debunked it.

 

[Hasty12345]

Eh, I feel this verse is actually sus right now. Need to contact some famous debunkers to check it

"sus" is an understatement

 

[Regidian]

Discussion rule with the threads given does not at all seem to be tackling on what premise of Chase's reason for downgrading is. So yes you can consider information Chase is bringing to the table new and not against the rule if he wants to bring it to a CRT.

It is. The feat is not the barrier being 8D. But the barrier cutting through 8 dimmension to protect the core from the rest including BB. Which litteraly doesn't contradict what he tell.

Not like it's the 200th time you guy try to debunk this. And not like we had 50th japanese coming to see the text.

 

[ImmortalDread]

Cutting through 8 dimensions could literally mean universes, what-

 

[Regidian]

Cutting through 8 dimensions could piterally mean universes, what-

Yeah now the moon cell cut trough 8 universe to protect the core, can you at least read the text to not tell such thing?

 

[ImmortalDread]

What? You ain't actually proving those are literal mathematical dimensions with this refuttal.

 

[Regidian]

What? You ain't actually proving those are literal mathematical dimensions with this refuttal.

And you prove me you like to talk without reading a text. I don't need to proving it you as it exist already a crt for this. Just need to show you how weird your reasoning is in the first place.

 

[Mageman460]

What? You ain't actually proving those are literal mathematical dimensions with this refuttal.

Doesn't need to. It was already proven. You would need to prove IN A DIFFERENT THREAD why they aren't.

 

[ImmortalDread]

Where is it proven?

 

[ImmortalDread]

And you prove me you like to talk without reading a text. I don't need to proving it you as it exist already a crt for this. Just need to show you how weird your reasoning is in the first place.

Here in wiki we don't assume the highest ball for each statement, you ain't helping your case here.