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All Apostle regen is from their curse of restoration which is the time manip. Speaking of, GH is described to be like the Curse of Restoration so Herc would need his shit changed too.
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Nasuverse Discussion Board 20
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I think any regen that works by reversing time should just be Regenerationn works via reversing time(insert regen rating here)
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If it is listed as just time manip that means Dantes nulls time since he stopped Roa from healing
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Can you guys at least list me some regen feats from the dead apostles?
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Arc was slashed into chunks by Shiki, Roa was reduced to loafers by Arc, some stuff I don't remeber from Melty Blood etc.
Edit: Not sure if thus counts for regen but their regen does get stronger during the night and a full moon prevents even conceptual death hax from affecting them.
Edit: Not sure if thus counts for regen but their regen does get stronger during the night and a full moon prevents even conceptual death hax from affecting them.
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Just call it Limited powernull.Paul Frank said:
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But it's specifically stated to prevent healing iirc not to stop time reversal
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But if the healing is time reversal then that's what it does. Healing just might mean time reversal in that context.
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Honestly, limited powernull on time reversal makes sense in context too.
https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Harpe
Look at Harpe for example.
"which is a divine ability that nullifies the "undying attribute" of immortals and inflicts wounds that cannot be restored by any methods other than healing in accordance to the natural laws."
Something like this would neg time reversal healing but not natural regen.
https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Harpe
Look at Harpe for example.
"which is a divine ability that nullifies the "undying attribute" of immortals and inflicts wounds that cannot be restored by any methods other than healing in accordance to the natural laws."
Something like this would neg time reversal healing but not natural regen.
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Okay can you guys at least source it too? It is troublesome if you guys can not find them quotes or at least some kind of reference.
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Pretty sure both feats I mentioned are on the respective characters pages already.
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Don't think Harpe stops time reversal healing since by your own words the wound never happened
It would stop healing by speeding up time though
This is what the page for Monte Cristo Mythologie says:
This Noble Phantasm is tied to the fourteen relics of the treasure of Monte Cristo that has the power to remake a person, a legend hidden in the mountain of Christ that represents the despair of those without God, the flames of hell, and the void. It is a power equal to that from the Age of Gods which forces a special Magic Circuit and Magic Crest into the user. By turning into a black flame that surrounds the user, it creates fire that is even able to break magical barriers and burn souls, as Michael Roa Valdamjong had found out while fighting the Count of Monte Cristo; his vampire's Regenerationn and even his reincarnation abilities were being nullified by this Noble Phantasm
It would stop healing by speeding up time though
This is what the page for Monte Cristo Mythologie says:
This Noble Phantasm is tied to the fourteen relics of the treasure of Monte Cristo that has the power to remake a person, a legend hidden in the mountain of Christ that represents the despair of those without God, the flames of hell, and the void. It is a power equal to that from the Age of Gods which forces a special Magic Circuit and Magic Crest into the user. By turning into a black flame that surrounds the user, it creates fire that is even able to break magical barriers and burn souls, as Michael Roa Valdamjong had found out while fighting the Count of Monte Cristo; his vampire's Regenerationn and even his reincarnation abilities were being nullified by this Noble Phantasm
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Yes, because Time was reversed. Harpe doesn't manipulate time, it doesn't speed it up.Paul Frank said:
" which is a divine ability that nullifies the "undying attribute" of immortals and inflicts wounds that cannot be restored by any methods other than healing in accordance to the natural laws."
Time manipulation based healing is not natural.
Okay, yeah that fits with what I was saying. That's just Limited powernull. He nulled Roa's regen which is time manipulation.
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I still feel any Regen from time manip should just be listed as Regenerationn via time manip especially if it has a limit
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I disagree with the limit changing it or making it more important to have it listed as time manip. Using the Zeref example, if he just reversed time from Natsu ripping one of his arms off instead of destroying his whole body, that doesn't suddenly make it regen instead of time manip.
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If you just say they can heal wounds via time manip that itself has no limit to the severity of the wounds that can be healed
And I mean in general it should be listed as Regenerationn via time manip. Limit or not
And I mean in general it should be listed as Regenerationn via time manip. Limit or not
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I mean, it would just be the same as what they've shown with time manip. It's not like after it gets changed to time manip people could argue that they could come back from vapour or atoms.
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Well you would have to list the limits still which is why it should just be considered regen via time manip since then you can use the regen terms
Can heal wounds by reversing time(Mid normally; regenerated from being shot in the head in King of the Cavern. Low-High under the Full Moon; regenerated from just his ankles) would work best imo for any character that uses time manip to regen, just replace the stuff in the parentheses
Can heal wounds by reversing time(Mid normally; regenerated from being shot in the head in King of the Cavern. Low-High under the Full Moon; regenerated from just his ankles) would work best imo for any character that uses time manip to regen, just replace the stuff in the parentheses
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Right, that works.
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New Alcides/Heracles stuff paraphrased from Beast's Lair.
Hydra Poison would one shot Heracles, even if he had God Hand cuz concepts.
Grail Mud gives him pseudo poison resistance cuz it eats up poison. This allowed him to survive Hydra Poison which was burning away his skin and muscle until you could see his bones.
Alcides uses another NP from King's Order related to Prometheus Immortality from King's Order so he could heal himself.
However despite the fact that the mud mostly taking care of the poison, it's still there. While the mud is winning currently, Alcides still feels the same pain Chiron felt so he only has 3 or 4 days of sanity left. But due to his status being an Avenger, his continued pain and anger further increases his power.
Additionally Alcides' Nine Lives has an intensely divine aura around it when used. And when he's an Archer/Avenger it takes the image of a viper or evil dragon.
Hydra Poison would one shot Heracles, even if he had God Hand cuz concepts.
Grail Mud gives him pseudo poison resistance cuz it eats up poison. This allowed him to survive Hydra Poison which was burning away his skin and muscle until you could see his bones.
Alcides uses another NP from King's Order related to Prometheus Immortality from King's Order so he could heal himself.
However despite the fact that the mud mostly taking care of the poison, it's still there. While the mud is winning currently, Alcides still feels the same pain Chiron felt so he only has 3 or 4 days of sanity left. But due to his status being an Avenger, his continued pain and anger further increases his power.
Additionally Alcides' Nine Lives has an intensely divine aura around it when used. And when he's an Archer/Avenger it takes the image of a viper or evil dragon.
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Ho boi
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How feasible is it for me to finish SE.RA.PH. and get all the materials for B.B. before the event is over? I'm a little under 50% done with all the missions but I've barely started on the KP shop...
Problem is I have a full-time media project on my plate along with multiple important side projects, so I don't have too much time on my hands. Ugh...
Problem is I have a full-time media project on my plate along with multiple important side projects, so I don't have too much time on my hands. Ugh...
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It's possible if you want to sacrifice sleep and apples. I started the event yesterday and I'm done with 82 missions.
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Anyone know what the best place is to fast farm silver, and gold Saber Monuments to ascend characters? I finaly pulled Saber Arturia (regular)
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Saber training grounds
I just buy them during events
I just buy them during events
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Depends on how we treat some of the cosmology
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Not getting very deep into it, but I think that was debunked before for the following reasons (or at least one of them):
1) The Mooncelljust simulates 8 Dimensions and the realities within itself.
2) Dimensions there aren't treated as layers of a reality-transcendent hierarchy.
1) The Mooncelljust simulates 8 Dimensions and the realities within itself.
2) Dimensions there aren't treated as layers of a reality-transcendent hierarchy.
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So it's an utter ****? *sigh*
I should've known better after seeing the thread creator's name.
I should've known better after seeing the thread creator's name.
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Yeah, that's complete horsesh*t as far as I am personally concerned. The Moon Cell isn't reality, and a lot of things are different there and we are told that point blank. Saver's normally Anti-Mind NP becoming Anti World and Ea getting a range of 999 when its normally 99 are the most telling ones in my eyes.
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