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welp going through all the chapters again, Early Base Naruto really does abuse K0 and only starts getting any Noticeable feats post waterfall training.
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Narutoverse Scaling: Kazekage Rescue Mission - Pain's Assault arcs
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Deidara took a bunch of hits from KN0 Naruto, scale off that
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It wasn't a clay clone?
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It was.
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Not the entire time
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For a while
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Deidara was getting punched, then when Naruto used rasengan he substituted himself w/ a clone
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We can’t really scale from Deidara’s dura cause his only dura feats are getting punched by other people lol
Maybe if someone evaluates the 7-C+ base Naruto calc, we can make some more progress.
Maybe if someone evaluates the 7-C+ base Naruto calc, we can make some more progress.
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Deidara fell into his own landmines and survived, is this a calcable feat? His bombs hurt Isobu, the 3 tails.
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He didn't. He got free from the shuriken before he landed and made another bird to stop himself from falling.
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Nevermind then
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Y’know, I feel like we’re kinda stuck here since we’re confined to just these arcs, even when it comes to characters who don’t change throughout the majority of Part II (like Kakashi). And literally all of the Part II calcs on the verse page (apart from C0, which scales to no one, Sage Jiraiya’s Rasengan that we aren’t scaling to anyone and Naruto’s inital Rasenshuriken) are from arcs other than the ones we’ve confined ourselves to.
This is why we should’ve stayed in the old thread, we started from scratch and have since made no progress.
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We've only been at it for like a few hours.
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I wouldn’t call seven a “few,” but we should’ve been able to make at least some progress in that time.
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Well we've brought up some new calcs.
Maybe we could take another look at that base Naruto calc and see what can be improved to make it more accurate.
Maybe we could take another look at that base Naruto calc and see what can be improved to make it more accurate.
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Hmm, I remember @Wrath_Of_Itachi talking about a High 7-C feat for KN0 Naruto with manda or something like that
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Sure, although base Naruto doesn’t really scale to anyone, does he? Most people scale to KN0, which scales above Kakashi and 30% Itachi.
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Base Naruto scales above the Konoha 12, under the Akatsuki, to (if not under) known jonin (Asuma, Kakashi, Base Guy), and such.
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If we have calc saying that base Naruto is Town level, then wouldn't we say that KN0 Naruto is at least Town level and scale accordingly?
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Why not make a discord server to make a draft then submit it here, discord will be more efficient.
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Yeah, except like I mentioned earlier, KN0 scales above Kakashi, and Kakashi doesn’t change throughout Part II before the War Arc. So if Kakashi were to get a feat above Town level, we’d then have to backtrack and adjust that scale.
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Where exactly is Asuma being comparable or above Naruto coming from? Same with Guy, unless we’re giving him more than one base key now, he only scales to Part I Kakashi, who Naruto would be above.
Also base Naruto being above all of the Konoha 12 is iffy, since Sakura is physically stronger than him, Sasuke is way above him, and Neji arguably has a better feat in the form of killing three of 30% Kisame’s water clones.
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Asuma is the most skilled melee fighter in Konoha, including Kakashi. Base Guy pre TS sent Kisame somewhere we'll never know.
Danzo says Naruto is stronger than his peers. Actually, idk if that's base. Take it how you will.
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then we need to fix it if possible
saukura probably not above naruto with rasengan
and Neji attack bypass dura
base naruto is above Konoha 11 (excluding sasuke) after FRS training or at least after SM training
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Most skilled doesn’t mean he has more AP though.
Eh... he says that, yet Naruto was afraid of Sakura’s strength. Now, if Danzō means KN0, then he wouldn’t be incorrect. But base? I’d consider Neji and Sakura above him. The rest of the Konoha 11 though, sure.
I’m talkin’ Pre-Rasenshuriken training. Post-Rasenshuriken training Naruto is all but stated to be above base Minato lmao.
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I mean, you gotta remember. Inverse, characters don't think of AP like that. So when you see someone cause huge destruction by punching into the ground, they consider that strong. Plus, Sakura is the only person who has AOE attacks except Choji in the Konoha 11, so when they see someone with AOE (Sakura, Tsunade), they freak out.
Even Kakashi was surprised. I don't think Naruto was deadass
Even Kakashi was surprised. I don't think Naruto was deadass
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In the 1st databook it says Asuma true strength is near kakashi’s idk if that supports the Asuma being the best in Melee statement though
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I know this doesn't have anything to do with the thread, but did the wiki get a new aesthetic?
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But does it mean Part I or Part II Kakashi?
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I’ve seen other wiki with that aesthetic but it is a little weird seeing it on VSBW.
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Yeah, the change also nuked my message wall, so now I have to search my "Contributions" to find previous notes on CRTs
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I was a relatively new member when the forum move happened so I have nothing on my message wall important except messages from Ant.
Yessir, I went to do brawlhalla profiles and I looked at it like wth
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@LordTracer it’s Part 1 since the 1st databook covers Chapter 1-119
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Yeah, I noticed that too. All the message walls are gone,
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So then that would only put Asuma at 8-A, assuming that we end up scaling the jōnin tiers to the Sound Four.
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