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Narutoverse Scaling: Kazekage Rescue Mission - Pain's Assault arcs

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I don't really think Naruto is saying Kakashi > 5th Gate Lee.

Even Kakashi was impressed with Lee with the gates active.
He was probably more impressed with Lee being able to use gates in general, but I understand your standpoint, it could be a stretch
 
I find too much a stretch saying Kakashi > 5th Gate Lee because a taijutsu statement, specially when there isn't any conclusive evidence for even genin scalling. I completely disagree for now but I won't go against if most of the thread agrees. Not willing to debate any further.
Understood, it is kind of a stretch, but that's all we have to work with. I'd say first gate Lee maybe
 
On a serious note, I'd say we scale off of a few things.
Kimimaro
KN0 Naruto
Anything else from pre TS
 
I don't think KN0 Naruto scales to anyone Post-TS. I just don't see a direct correlation.
 
What about KN0 Naruto Post-TS?
Well, yeah it's only natural that a stronger Naruto would scale higher than his weaker self in the same state. I'm more so talking about everyone else.

I guess we could take Naruto as a springboard for the rest of the scaling and see where that leads.
 
What about KN0 Naruto Post-TS?
I feel as if there’s an issue here. Doesn’t Part II KN0 scale to 30% Itachi, the same person that scales to Part II Kakashi? Kakashi throughout all of Part II (before the war) is pretty much at the same level of power, so like, he’d scale to his feats in the Pain Arc that are way above 7-C (where Part I KN0 is).
 
I don't think Taijutsu directly correlates with striking strength though.
for example id argue base Might Guy is better at Taijutsu then Hashirama despite hashi's striking strength >>>>>>>>>>>>Might guy

Edit: Once again Im delayed lol
 
Oops, I forgot we're still on early shippuden, sorry about that.

Anyway, has there been an agreement over what tier BoS characters should be?
 
I think we're arguing over what feat/tier should early shippuden characters scale to. Though I don't know if there's an agreement or consensus over something yet.
 
well considering nobody agrees with me about Base naruto.

How does everyone feel about base naruto scaling to Part 1 Kakashi?
 
So we're back to 7-C? Just like before the revisions? Isn't there supposed to a 7-B calc? Or is that rejected?

There's also the High 7-A+ Pain RTaW calc using KE of the clouds but honestly I'm kinda iffy on that.
 
I already said this but let me repeat it. KN0 Naruto is comparable to Kakashi. Naruto was at KN0 against Itachi, Deidara, and Sasori. Base Naruto is considered fodder by Deidara who considers Kakashi to be a threat.
 
I already said this but let me repeat it. KN0 Naruto is comparable to Kakashi. Naruto was at KN0 against Itachi, Deidara, and Sasori. Base Naruto is considered fodder by Deidara who considers Kakashi to be a threat.
So..
Base Naruto < KN0 Naruto = Kakashi < Deidara, Itachi and Sasori?

Is there any way to quantify just one of these character's power?
 
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