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Then what does he scale to? We were discussing his scaling as if we also accepted it scaling to his physical stats.We don't.
@UchihaSlayer96; might be an unpopular opinion but IMO a lot of these troubles came into existence once we accepted a solid multiplier for the Eight Gates.
Surviving the Hirudora has nothing to do with his striking strength though.I don't see a problem with Kisames physicals scaling to his water dome. I mean, he survived a Hirudora which overpowered his most powerful jutsu (super water shark bomb). About Guy, it might be a good idea to not use multipliers and just scale him to the feats that he has shown.
Well if we can prove that his striking strength is similar to his durability than we could scale him to his water dome.Surviving the Hirudora has nothing to do with his striking strength though.
Context Tempest.....lol.Remember that Kisame has little to no punching feats except hurting Guy who one shot him in 6th Gate, now you're trying to scale him to 7th?
No, no, 7th Gate Guy is undoubtedly stronger than Kisame. I just don't think it's thaaaat massive of a difference, so if it were up to me I'd scale Kisame to around 6th Gate Guy level.So from 6th to 7th gate is over a 3.333x multiplier. Nice to know
I feel like it's a bit misleading to say 100% Kisame fought Seventh Gate Guy.It was 30% Kisame that got folded by the Sixth Gate, while 100% fought Seventh Gate Guy,
I wasn’t trying to say Kisame scales or anything, I was just correcting Tempest since he just said Kisame got stomped by Sixth Gate Guy, even though that was only 30% Kisame.I feel like it's a bit misleading to say 100% Kisame fought Seventh Gate Guy.
More like he got one-shot by Seventh Gate Guy and completely overpowered.
Would you say it might be more accurate to look at his durability and AP separately?I feel like it's a bit misleading to say 100% Kisame fought Seventh Gate Guy.
More like he got one-shot by Seventh Gate Guy and completely overpowered.
Nope, his shark got eaten by Hirudora so Kisame took a full hit from it after that.Guy went 7th Gate because of the AOE and the Nature of Kisame's attack which Hirudora countered perfectly. Kisame didn't even take the hit full force, his shark did
Yeah. Part of this problem is rooted to trying to scale everyone to Kisame.Kisame and 6/7 Gate Guy is a subject for the War Arc scaling. Let's focus here.
Not really, 30% Kisame has nothing to do with 6th and 7th Gates Guy or War Arc.Yeah. Part of this problem is rooted to trying to scale everyone to Kisame.
Who can we sort out that we don't need to scale to him?
Yeah, but specifically, the Deva Path could be 7-B?.Pain is going to be Varies.
The Deva Path IS the one who varies. His low end might be 7-B, but we're not sure yet.Yeah, but specifically, the Deva Path could be 7-B?.
Not necessarily. A Small City level value for KN4 Naruto isn't that bad.So that calc is a useless
AlmostFrom 1.6 Megatons to 1.8 Megatons
Might be a good idea if the other scaling doesn't work for some reason. It's good to have backup plans.Not necessarily. A Small City level value for KN4 Naruto isn't that bad.
We could use it as the upper limit of Sick Orochimaru's durability, since he thought there was a chance it could kill him.
I dont know but certainly not that type of scalingThen what do you suggest?