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If I say your reaction speed is what gave you the edge in the match i'm implying we have similar combat speed but the reason you won is due to your far higher reaction speed, the profile is just showcasing his reaction speed is much higher. The higher there used to be rel actually and it was coming from him being faster than his edo tensei state, His hokage speed justification also comes from there, obito is just a bonus and honestly he should have sub-rel reactions. But high tiers don't currently have a speed value anymore so they just heavily upscale. I also think his hokage self should just flat out have the new high tiers speed rating and higher reactions when the upgrade comesIk, that's why I said combat speed. Minato's profile only compares his reaction speed to Ay.
you might be reading it wrongLook at Naruto (Last) profile, why does his rasengan or Asura Kurama have “far higher” or “Likely 5-C+” when there’s a stated multiplier?
I was gonna make profiles for everyone's families, but there's no template so I got boredWhy doesn't Hana have a profile? Look at her beating Pain
Also that was TsumeWhy doesn't Hana have a profile? Look at her beating Pain
Trust me I looked at it like 10 times. If ya don’t believe me check if outyou might be reading it wrong
I employ you to read it one more time. That rating you are looking at is for BSM naruto. naruto with strongest ninjutsu and infusing all his chakra is rated low5b and asura avatar is rated 3x more than base naruto. The exact value is 5exatonsTrust me I looked at it like 10 times. If ya don’t believe me check if out
1.)Look at Naruto (Last) profile, why does his rasengan or Asura Kurama have “far higher” or “Likely 5-C+” when there’s a stated multiplier?
Technically, for The Last it'snaruto with strongest ninjutsu and infusing all his chakra is rated low5b
I think you mean Kurama Six Paths Sage Mode (1.69 Zettatons) for New Era Narutoand asura avatar is rated 3x more than base naruto.
The exact value is 5exatons
Sure you could interpret it like that, could be worded more clearly tho so it isn't interpreted as Minato only keeping up due to FTG (especially as that's a widespread notion in the fandom)If I say your reaction speed is what gave you the edge in the match i'm implying we have similar combat speed but the reason you won is due to your far higher reaction speed, the profile is just showcasing his reaction speed is much higher.
Ik, I'm just saying the combat speed justification is lackingThe higher there used to be rel actually and it was coming from him being faster than his edo tensei state,
Obito should be Sub-Rel overall nglHis hokage speed justification also comes from there, obito is just a bonus and honestly he should have sub-rel reactions. But high tiers don't currently have a speed value anymore so they just heavily upscale. I also think his hokage self should just flat out have the new high tiers speed rating and higher reactions when the upgrade comes
i agree that it should be worded better and that the justification is lacking. Tobirama complimenting his speed used to bepart among others. Don't know why it got removed.Sure you could interpret it like that, could be worded more clearly tho so it isn't interpreted as Minato only keeping up due to FTG (especially as that's a widespread notion in the fandom)
Ik, I'm just saying the combat speed justification is lacking
Obito should be Sub-Rel overall ngl
What exactly do you mean by "high tiers?"
We lack any evidence suggesting he resisted the effects of Baryon Mode. In fact, the available information indicates the opposite.Should Isshiki have some resistance to life manipulation? According to the explanation of baryon mode given on the official website.
The life-consuming nature of Baryon Mode applied equally to Kurama and Isshiki, from what I understood, but while Isshiki only lost less than 3 days of his life, Kurama easily lost hundreds of years. There clearly seems to be a distinction between the chakra that Naruto and Kurama are "merging" to create Baryon Mode and its life-consuming nature that results from it, which is what killed Kurama and would have killed Isshiki if Naruto had touched him more often, but while Kurama was losing most of his life at the same time that Naruto was touching Isshiki, Isshiki only lost a few hours of life, from what I understand.We lack any evidence suggesting he resisted the effects of Baryon Mode. In fact, the available information indicates the opposite.
Idk if you mean when he said Minato's Shunshin is faster than his or when he complimented his striking speed. For the former, I'm pretty sure movement speed was considered ass for a while, and for the latter, ig just complimenting isn't really quantifiable (the raws seem to also have a somewhat different meaning but I digress)i agree that it should be worded better and that the justification is lacking. Tobirama complimenting his speed used to bepart among others. Don't know why it got removed.
Ah you mean the former Rel characters. Yes Minato will scale to the top tiers unless Slayer drastically changed his mind, as he said in his Minato vs Hashirama video that he thinks Minato is faster than Hashirama, Madara, and Tobirama (I don't agree with his idea that Ay and KCM1 Naruto are also that level though)So high tiers used to scale to rel before from madara reacting to tsunade kick during the transmission jutsu but it got scrapped. According to slayer there would be a speed revision later tackling high tiers speed
Well if you interpret it that way I can't fault you. The problem is we don't have enough information to back it up.The life-consuming nature of Baryon Mode applied equally to Kurama and Isshiki, from what I understood, but while Isshiki only lost less than 3 days of his life, Kurama easily lost hundreds of years. There clearly seems to be a distinction between the chakra that Naruto and Kurama are "merging" to create Baryon Mode and its life-consuming nature that results from it, which is what killed Kurama and would have killed Isshiki if Naruto had touched him more often, but while Kurama was losing most of his life at the same time that Naruto was touching Isshiki, Isshiki only lost a few hours of life, from what I understand.
Isshiki in the most literal sense’ life force is backed up by “countless of planets” according to his own words. Not only does he absorb the planet’s life itself, but all life on said planet. Hence why immortal kurama died but he didn’tYes.
However, it's nonsense that 20 hours of lifespan is all that Baryon Mode can destroy when Kurama's immortal lifespan is also destroyed by Baryon Mode.
The bold is never stated or implied. As the scan shows, Minato states he is going for a Mutual Strike, but the other stuff isn’t even implied.Obito isn't faster than Minato, Minato slowing down to make Obito think he could tag him and thus materialize is part of his stated plan
I mean complimenting his striking speedIdk if you mean when he said Minato's Shunshin is faster than his or when he complimented his striking speed. For the former, I'm pretty sure movement speed was considered ass for a while, and for the latter, ig just complimenting isn't really quantifiable (the raws seem to also have a somewhat different meaning but I digress)
Ah you mean the former Rel characters. Yes Minato will scale to the top tiers unless Slayer drastically changed his mind, as he said in his Minato vs Hashirama video that he thinks Minato is faster than Hashirama, Madara, and Tobirama (I don't agree with his idea that Ay and KCM1 Naruto are also that level though)
It's not explicitly stated, but it absolutely is implied. Just look at what Minato says.The bold is never stated or implied.
Nah, he'd winAs the scan shows, Minato states he is going for a Mutual Strike, but the other stuff isn’t even implied.
Obito would have caught him before he tagged with Rasengan had it not been for FTG (Sans Shunshin Obviously).
I mean complimenting his striking speed
I don't really think Naruto was mental amped but either way he was compared to Jonin Minato, not Hokage MinatoI don't have an issue with kcm1 naruto being there with mental amp tbh coz that particular point in the story was heavily implied to be a moment he attained speed rivalling his dad.
Jobbing Madara, who all the Kage have feats againstAy is iffy but he does have god feats on madara
I haven't watched this video specifically but ThunderGod is usually really good, one of if not the best current Naruto YouTuberIdk if I want to risk watching a scaling YouTuber, is this accurate and entertaining?
All right, I trust your judgement, and any Menma fan has my good graces, as does someone who shows up with a buddy.I haven't watched this video specifically but ThunderGod is usually really good, one of if not the best current Naruto YouTuber
i definitely think naruto was mental amps. Sure I'm not trying to scale naruto to hokage minatoI don't really think Naruto was mental amped but either way he was compared to Jonin Minato, not Hokage Minato
Jobbing Madara, who all the Kage have feats against
You are theory crafting here. This is just a statement of fact from Minato acknowledging the situation. Nothing is implied beyond that.It's not explicitly stated, but it absolutely is implied. Just look at what Minato says.
"My physical attacks don't affect his body...but he makes himself solid when he attacks me" - thus Minato has to ensure that Obito continues his offense and doesn't switch to defense
The thing you’re failing to acknowledge is that outside of FTG usage, Minato has failed to tag Obito in every instance he tries. This statement from Minato, again, is just a statement of fact. There is no implication carried that says Minato held back his speed. Remember, right after this statement, Minato acknowledges he “could” very well lose this exchange: “This is all going to be over for one of us in an instant!” — Which actually implies the opposite of what you’re saying."I have to aim for a mutual strike, precisely timed" - it doesn't make sense for him to refer to precise timing if he's just gonna attack as fast as possible and try to outspeed Obito. This is obviously referring to him teleporting just when Obito materializes, which he'd only do if he thought he was gonna be able to touch Minato.
Again, you are theory crafting here. Nothing here is implied to mean he held back his speed. Nothing he showcased implies that either. Kishimoto is writing Minato to understand and recognize Obito’s abilities and fighting style, similarly Konan. Nothing more."He knows he's vulnerable when he attacks" - Minato here is taking into account that Obito won't just materialize willy nilly and will only do so if the situation permits it, which it obviously wouldn't if Minato's Rasengan reaches Obito before Obito's hand reaches Minato
This isn’t relevant. Obito had no need to extend his arm and he would’ve beat Minato in this specific exchange sans FTG, which is what is shown and implied. So yes, Obito’s Combat Speed and Movement Speed would be Relative to “Slightly” Faster than Minato’s based on this and using a scan where his arm is extend vs Obito, who didn’t require his arm to be extended and simply needed “touch”, is a bit disingenuous, don’t you think?It's also worth noting that Minato fully extends his arm to slam his Rasengan into Obito while Obito hardly seems to move at all (note the position of the flying kunai behind Obito in the first and second pages being almost identical despite the kunai and Obito moving in opposite directions, and the position of Obito's arm staying the same)
Lol we know he can't use chakraspoilers for 14
Planet level ibiki gg
skill issueLol we know he can't use chakra
We now have sea stone in borutoskill issue