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I think you mean Kurama Six Paths Sage Mode (1.69 Zettatons) for New Era Naruto
Sure you could interpret it like that, could be worded more clearly tho so it isn't interpreted as Minato only keeping up due to FTG (especially as that's a widespread notion in the fandom)
Ik, I'm just saying the combat speed justification is lacking
Obito should be Sub-Rel overall ngl
i agree that it should be worded better and that the justification is lacking. Tobirama complimenting his speed used to bepart among others. Don't know why it got removed.
We lack any evidence suggesting he resisted the effects of Baryon Mode. In fact, the available information indicates the opposite.
The life-consuming nature of Baryon Mode applied equally to Kurama and Isshiki, from what I understood, but while Isshiki only lost less than 3 days of his life, Kurama easily lost hundreds of years. There clearly seems to be a distinction between the chakra that Naruto and Kurama are "merging" to create Baryon Mode and its life-consuming nature that results from it, which is what killed Kurama and would have killed Isshiki if Naruto had touched him more often, but while Kurama was losing most of his life at the same time that Naruto was touching Isshiki, Isshiki only lost a few hours of life, from what I understand.
Idk if you mean when he said Minato's Shunshin is faster than his or when he complimented his striking speed. For the former, I'm pretty sure movement speed was considered ass for a while, and for the latter, ig just complimenting isn't really quantifiable (the raws seem to also have a somewhat different meaning but I digress)
Ah you mean the former Rel characters. Yes Minato will scale to the top tiers unless Slayer drastically changed his mind, as he said in his Minato vs Hashirama video that he thinks Minato is faster than Hashirama, Madara, and Tobirama (I don't agree with his idea that Ay and KCM1 Naruto are also that level though)
Well if you interpret it that way I can't fault you. The problem is we don't have enough information to back it up.
Isshiki in the most literal sense’ life force is backed up by “countless of planets” according to his own words. Not only does he absorb the planet’s life itself, but all life on said planet. Hence why immortal kurama died but he didn’t
The bold is never stated or implied. As the scan shows, Minato states he is going for a Mutual Strike, but the other stuff isn’t even implied.
I mean complimenting his striking speed
It's not explicitly stated, but it absolutely is implied. Just look at what Minato says.
Nah, he'd win
I don't really think Naruto was mental amped but either way he was compared to Jonin Minato, not Hokage Minato
Jobbing Madara, who all the Kage have feats against
I haven't watched this video specifically but ThunderGod is usually really good, one of if not the best current Naruto YouTuber
All right, I trust your judgement, and any Menma fan has my good graces, as does someone who shows up with a buddy.
i definitely think naruto was mental amps. Sure I'm not trying to scale naruto to hokage minato
You are theory crafting here. This is just a statement of fact from Minato acknowledging the situation. Nothing is implied beyond that.
The thing you’re failing to acknowledge is that outside of FTG usage, Minato has failed to tag Obito in every instance he tries. This statement from Minato, again, is just a statement of fact. There is no implication carried that says Minato held back his speed. Remember, right after this statement, Minato acknowledges he “could” very well lose this exchange: “This is all going to be over for one of us in an instant!” — Which actually implies the opposite of what you’re saying.
Again, you are theory crafting here. Nothing here is implied to mean he held back his speed. Nothing he showcased implies that either. Kishimoto is writing Minato to understand and recognize Obito’s abilities and fighting style, similarly Konan. Nothing more.
This isn’t relevant. Obito had no need to extend his arm and he would’ve beat Minato in this specific exchange sans FTG, which is what is shown and implied. So yes, Obito’s Combat Speed and Movement Speed would be Relative to “Slightly” Faster than Minato’s based on this and using a scan where his arm is extend vs Obito, who didn’t require his arm to be extended and simply needed “touch”, is a bit disingenuous, don’t you think?
Lol we know he can't use chakra
skill issue
We now have sea stone in boruto
It would be better to discuss those arguments first instead of making a thread that is going to fail. Also I can't tell you my thoughts about a multiplier because I don't know how you're gonna justify it.
16 chakra fruits from the same planet right?
The arguments are based off the fact that:
Yeah but I don’t think that’s relevant to my point
Slight issue. I believe that in Boruto it has been clarified that ten tails specifically extracts the chakra from living beings. Not the planet's chakra. If that's what you meant then ok.
Ok.
Ok. I do agree that IT Kaguya < a hypothetical Fused Momoshiki from 1000 years ago at least. Without the ETSB of course, although arguments can be made.
True.
