Reaction speed requires actual movements
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Ok so your telling me that the reasoning for itachi not having ls reaction is because his sussano formation speed deemed more important then him actually reacting to the bolt?
Ya which is why sauske apeed got amped mid fightReaction speed requires actual movements
Speed
Speed is simply how fast a character can move in a given amount of time. There are five types of speed used for VS purposes: Attack Speed, Combat Speed, Reaction Speed, Travel Speed, and Flight Speed. The term "Speed" normally refers to Combat Speed. The speed at which an attack moves. For...
Pretty sure he activated it when it was much closer but whatever
They stop at sasori and dedria
I see deepa stopping at pain. Deepa has a slight AP advantage but Pain can close up the distance by deactivating other paths. Although, I don’t think pain has anything in his arsenal that can potentially crack deepa’s Armour, that’s where his chibaku tensei plays in
I did it quickly just looking then I actually made a mistake. You are right. However, I think that a possible argument in favor of the speed of the technique is Kakashi's reaction, In the original he said "何て術のスピードだ" which would be something like (what a fast technique...) Only later does he mention that he didn't see Itachi's hand seals, however, in a separate sentence, he first praises the speed of the technique.
I’m not arguing for or against it btw I was just making a stance on neutrality. But yeah I can see your point here
By the way, sorry to ask like this, but could you calculate Guy and Lee's feat against Haku? happens in chapter 522 they stop Haku's movement after he comes out through the mirror.
Send me all the scans in dms
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His toothpick is a Senbon.
Pushed the strongest Konoha jonin Kakashi to use the Sharingan alongside Sakura and then fought him for a night, and is good support for him. He's also stronger than the likes of Neji and Lee, who helped fight 30% Kisame, who's probably Low Kage level. Also he dodges Kabuto's kunai, and while Chiyo might not have been at FP, he blocked her punch, despite her being noted for having extraordinary taijutsu. He's definitely High Jonin level, and while he was fatigued from turning 4 Tails tbf, him dodging Kabuto was in this weakened state of his.
Not really? I don't recall her using Shunshin much if at all. Most of her "speed" training was focused on dodging, which requires you to perceive your opponent obviously. Also much of what I said about Naruto applies to her.
The portrayal is clearly that of a blitz, they were about to attack, and then in literally one panel they were just completely wrapped around and Sasuke went between them out of nowhere. You don't need a sentence saying they were blitzed when the scene already conveys it very obviously. They even only have an exclamation mark after the snakes have fully wrapped around them.
Yes because Deidara only dodges after Sasuke's run most of the distance. I'm aware he was using Shunshin, that's a notable part of speed.
Even this injured Sakura was able to keep up with the 3rd Kazekage puppet and Sasori's 100 Puppets, but his cord extension was a step above the rest in speed. Also no she was not infected by poison at this point, she had the antidote running through her system. Also Sakura making a very slight movement while Sasori shot his rope out dozens of meters is not the defeater you think it is. Sasori throwing himself doesn't have to be the same speed as this weapon.
Asuma is looking at Kakuzu and then he rushes over to him and kicks him down without Asuma being able to do anything.
Bro, they were literally watching him straight on and he just grabbed them, that is by definition a blitz. Also Kakashi might've been fatigued, but I don't see much evidence for Ino and Choji. Regardless, fatigued Kakashi is Hidan level.
He would've been pretty surprised to see sand flying out from behind them if he saw it.
He's a jonin with extreme speed (kinda makes sense since he counterattacked Chidori Kakashi who's jonin level even without the massive speed amp from Chidori).
1. That was a mental reaction
Ay is the highest of the highest among the Kage in speed in V2, not V1. Sure I'll concede the light was a factor, but if they could comfortably keep up with his speed, that wouldn't be such a great factor they don't see him moving at all.
Orochimaru literally came from behind Kabuto who Yamato was looking right in the direction of, so Orochimaru would've been in his field of view as he was dashing to Kabuto, yet still only noticed him when he stopped moving.
There are plenty of other feats I could've included if I were talking about all jonin (like Base Jiraiya blitzing Ebisu). Everyone I mentioned getting blitzed either have some scaling or hype for being notably beyond the average jonin.
Take away the Minato and Itachi feats if you want, doesn't change the rest of my points since most of the people I mentioned doing blitzing are Low-Mid Kage level, with a few High Kage levels in the mix.
Minato is one thing (as he is the fastest character I mentioned), but 3T Itachi is generally in the weight class as Kage, just fairly high in the range.
Depends on the verse. In Naruto, I'd argue a 10-20x speed difference isn't enough to blitz considering Sage Mode shenanigans but I assume you don't fw that and I'd rather not get into a whole other side argument.
I stand on my point too. Plenty of Akatsuki level characters are a blitz tier above High Jonin level.
What Zetsu statement? The one made in the Sasuke vs Itachi fight?
Kaydee FRA
I an't no genius but I think he dies
he has no cracks in his armor
Does he not have a visor? (I genuinely have no idea what he looks like)
You ain’t real
His skin is just super dense and if he gets pressed then he throws on some armor
1. Yeah no . Kakashi was definitely not going at his top speed. It's a training match, he's going to be holding back. Lee and neji are not his peers. They are his seniors . And this is in reference to strength and not just base naruto stats. With a rasengan and odama rasengan Yeah naruto is definitely top of his peers. That doesn’t do anything for speed. We go by feats and naruto base speed pales in comparison. Dodging a kunai doesn’t scale you to the person combat speed and thanks for acknowledging granny chiyo was not going all out.
Pushed the strongest Konoha jonin Kakashi to use the Sharingan alongside Sakura and then fought him for a night, and is good support for him. He's also stronger than the likes of Neji and Lee, who helped fight 30% Kisame, who's probably Low Kage level. Also he dodges Kabuto's kunai, and while Chiyo might not have been at FP, he blocked her punch, despite her being noted for having extraordinary taijutsu. He's definitely High Jonin level, and while he was fatigued from turning 4 Tails tbf, him dodging Kabuto was in this weakened state of his.
Not really? I don't recall her using Shunshin much if at all. Most of her "speed" training was focused on dodging, which requires you to perceive your opponent obviously. Also much of what I said about Naruto applies to her.
Considering Sai is above Base Naruto who's already the strongest of his peers, he absolutely should be. And Yamato is like a peak jonin. Also keep in mind that Base BoS Sasuke is like absolutely bottom of the barrel as far as Low Kages go, so stronger High Jonins reacting to him is not an issue at all.
The portrayal is clearly that of a blitz, they were about to attack, and then in literally one panel they were just completely wrapped around and Sasuke went between them out of nowhere. You don't need a sentence saying they were blitzed when the scene already conveys it very obviously. They even only have an exclamation mark after the snakes have fully wrapped around them.
I'm not having any "confusion," I'm just arguing that there is a large speed gap between High Jonin level and Kage level, both low and high in that latter range. And some Kage level characters can even blitz other Kage levels.
Yes because Deidara only dodges after Sasuke's run most of the distance. I'm aware he was using Shunshin, that's a notable part of speed.
Even this injured Sakura was able to keep up with the 3rd Kazekage puppet and Sasori's 100 Puppets, but his cord extension was a step above the rest in speed. Also no she was not infected by poison at this point, she had the antidote running through her system. Also Sakura making a very slight movement while Sasori shot his rope out dozens of meters is not the defeater you think it is. Sasori throwing himself doesn't have to be the same speed as this weapon.
Asuma is looking at Kakuzu and then he rushes over to him and kicks him down without Asuma being able to do anything.
Bro, they were literally watching him straight on and he just grabbed them, that is by definition a blitz. Also Kakashi might've been fatigued, but I don't see much evidence for Ino and Choji. Regardless, fatigued Kakashi is Hidan level.
He would've been pretty surprised to see sand flying out from behind them if he saw it.
You're kind of agreeing with my point.
He's a jonin with extreme speed (kinda makes sense since he counterattacked Chidori Kakashi who's jonin level even without the massive speed amp from Chidori).
Jonin Minato is not quite as godlike as Hokage Minato but sure he's still up there.
1. That was a mental reaction
2. That was with the MS active, this is 3T Itachi who's much slower, in this state he's more like Sannin level+ so still well into Kage level but not just unparalleled like MS Itachi is
Ay is the highest of the highest among the Kage in speed in V2, not V1. Sure I'll concede the light was a factor, but if they could comfortably keep up with his speed, that wouldn't be such a great factor they don't see him moving at all.
Barely reacted over a long distance sure. That's also something in support of my point. CM1 Jugo is relative to Suigetsu who was fighting Darui, yet with a huge amp from CM2 (to the point that he'd probably be Low Kage level), he still only reacted to V1 Ay at the last moment.
Orochimaru literally came from behind Kabuto who Yamato was looking right in the direction of, so Orochimaru would've been in his field of view as he was dashing to Kabuto, yet still only noticed him when he stopped moving.
There are plenty of other feats I could've included if I were talking about all jonin (like Base Jiraiya blitzing Ebisu). Everyone I mentioned getting blitzed either have some scaling or hype for being notably beyond the average jonin.
Take away the Minato and Itachi feats if you want, doesn't change the rest of my points since most of the people I mentioned doing blitzing are Low-Mid Kage level, with a few High Kage levels in the mix.
Minato is one thing (as he is the fastest character I mentioned), but 3T Itachi is generally in the weight class as Kage, just fairly high in the range.
Depends on the verse. In Naruto, I'd argue a 10-20x speed difference isn't enough to blitz considering Sage Mode shenanigans but I assume you don't fw that and I'd rather not get into a whole other side argument.
I stand on my point too. Plenty of Akatsuki level characters are a blitz tier above High Jonin level.
What Zetsu statement? The one made in the Sasuke vs Itachi fight?
konan is ******** on him lol
With what
AP and suffocationWith what
