Pushed the strongest Konoha jonin Kakashi to use the Sharingan alongside Sakura and then fought him for a night, and is
good support for him. He's also
stronger than the likes of Neji and Lee,
who helped fight 30% Kisame, who's probably Low Kage level. Also he
dodges Kabuto's kunai, and while Chiyo might not have been at FP, he blocked her
punch, despite her being noted for having
extraordinary taijutsu. He's definitely High Jonin level, and while he was fatigued from turning 4 Tails tbf, him dodging Kabuto was in this weakened state of his.
Not really? I don't recall her using Shunshin much if at all. Most of her "speed" training was focused on dodging, which requires you to perceive your opponent obviously. Also much of what I said about Naruto applies to her.
Considering Sai is above Base Naruto who's already the strongest of his peers, he absolutely should be. And Yamato is like a peak jonin. Also keep in mind that Base BoS Sasuke is like absolutely bottom of the barrel as far as Low Kages go, so stronger High Jonins reacting to him is not an issue at all.
The portrayal is clearly that of a blitz, they were about to attack, and then in literally one panel they were just completely wrapped around and Sasuke went between them out of nowhere. You don't need a sentence saying they were blitzed when the scene already conveys it very obviously. They even only have an exclamation mark after the snakes have fully wrapped around them.
I'm not having any "confusion," I'm just arguing that there is a large speed gap between High Jonin level and Kage level, both low and high in that latter range. And some Kage level characters can even blitz other Kage levels.
Yes because Deidara only dodges after Sasuke's run most of the distance. I'm aware he was using Shunshin, that's a notable part of speed.
Even this injured Sakura was able to keep up with the
3rd Kazekage puppet and Sasori's
100 Puppets, but his cord extension was a step above the rest in speed. Also no she was not infected by poison at this point, she
had the antidote running through her system. Also Sakura making a very slight movement while Sasori shot his rope out dozens of meters is not the defeater you think it is. Sasori throwing himself doesn't have to be the same speed as this weapon.
Asuma is looking at Kakuzu and then
he rushes over to him and kicks him down without Asuma being able to do anything.
Bro, they were
literally watching him straight on and
he just grabbed them, that is by definition a blitz. Also Kakashi might've been fatigued, but I don't see much evidence for Ino and Choji. Regardless, fatigued Kakashi is
Hidan level.
He would've been pretty surprised to see sand flying out from behind them if he saw it.
You're kind of agreeing with my point.
He's a
jonin with extreme speed (kinda makes sense since he counterattacked Chidori Kakashi who's jonin level even without the massive speed amp from Chidori).
Jonin Minato is not quite as godlike as Hokage Minato but sure he's still up there.
1. That was a mental reaction
2. That was with the MS active, this is 3T Itachi who's much slower, in this state he's more like Sannin level+ so still well into Kage level but not just unparalleled like MS Itachi is
Ay is the highest of the highest among the Kage in speed in V2, not V1. Sure I'll concede the light was a factor, but if they could comfortably keep up with his speed, that wouldn't be such a great factor they don't see him moving at all.
Barely reacted
over a long distance sure. That's also something in support of my point. CM1 Jugo is relative to Suigetsu who was fighting Darui, yet with a huge amp from CM2 (to the point that he'd probably be Low Kage level), he still only reacted to
V1 Ay
at the last moment.
Orochimaru literally
came from behind Kabuto who
Yamato was looking right in the direction of, so Orochimaru would've been in his field of view as he was dashing to Kabuto, yet still only noticed him when he stopped moving.
There are plenty of other feats I could've included if I were talking about all jonin (like Base Jiraiya blitzing Ebisu). Everyone I mentioned getting blitzed either have some scaling or hype for being notably beyond the average jonin.
Take away the Minato and Itachi feats if you want, doesn't change the rest of my points since most of the people I mentioned doing blitzing are Low-Mid Kage level, with a few High Kage levels in the mix.
Minato is one thing (as he is the fastest character I mentioned), but 3T Itachi is generally in the weight class as Kage, just fairly high in the range.
Depends on the verse. In Naruto, I'd argue a 10-20x speed difference isn't enough to blitz considering Sage Mode shenanigans but I assume you don't fw that and I'd rather not get into a whole other side argument.
I stand on my point too. Plenty of Akatsuki level characters are a blitz tier above High Jonin level.
What Zetsu statement? The one made in the Sasuke vs Itachi fight?
