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Remember the time when Deidara blasted in Hebi Sasuke's ass? Good times.
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Yeah, I concede that Naruto Characters aren’t durable to Cutting/piercing attacks outside of Cloaks and Special Cases.

Gaara’s Sand Shurikens are implied to be able to cut through steel, and Naruto tanked them in Chunin Exams (And this is before his Mental Amp). Anyone who scales over that version of Naruto, cutting/piercing them would automatically scale you over the level required to cut steel…

Base TYBW Kenpachi can’t cut Naruto 💀

Edit: Did I say that right? 🤔
 
So with the water fang bullets can we use lightning speed? Or does it seem more hyperbolic the way it’s stated
Here on this site, as far as I know, texts in bold are considered "hype texts". So it is not taken into account. I don't know if it's a rule, but I read this in a thread in the past.

But if you want an opinion from someone who understands a little bit of Japanese (I studied a little and I have a fluent friend).There is no hyperbole in the sentence about speed.
 
Whether or not the statement is hyperbolic is debatable. Anyone who tells you it is objectively hyperbolic or not is just lying to you. Just as “he flew at the speed of light” can be literal or hyperbolic depending on context, so can Itachi’s water bullet statement.
 
Do we just assume that all the LS statements are hyperboles cuz I’m pretty sure there’s a couple floating around
No, rn Kirin’s are accepted as literal, Mifune’s is as well, and then obviously Light Fang is. It’s all context dependent. Rn on wiki we accept that the most consistent speed tier for like high/top tiers in Shippuden is lightning speed, so we look at the other statements in the light of that.
 
Sasuke's Kirin, Haku, and Mifune's LS expression were not seen as exaggerations, but were considered not to measure up to the other characters. Only Attack Speeds are LS
No, rn Kirin’s are accepted as literal, Mifune’s is as well, and then obviously Light Fang is. It’s all context dependent. Rn on wiki we accept that the most consistent speed tier for like high/top tiers in Shippuden is lightning speed, so we look at the other statements in the light of that.
Then shouldn’t itachi have LS reaction speed? And what about the laser circus statement?
 
Whether or not the statement is hyperbolic is debatable. Anyone who tells you it is objectively hyperbolic or not is just lying to you. Just as “he flew at the speed of light” can be literal or hyperbolic depending on context, so can Itachi’s water bullet statement.
Not exactly. There are ways to say speed of light in a hyperbolic context, you can see a hyperbolic sentence or text according to the way it was written. In Itachi's sentence specifically, the only argument for it to be hyperbolic is that it is written in bold text. Because the way the sentence is there is no indication of hyperbole.
 
Not exactly. There are ways to say speed of light in a hyperbolic context, you can see a hyperbolic sentence or text according to the way it was written. In Itachi's sentence specifically, the only argument for it to be hyperbolic is that it is written in bold text. Because the way the sentence is there is no indication of hyperbole.
You’re wrong. Because the sentence doesn’t need to be structured in any specific way to be hyperbolic. It’s context dependent, as Japanese is a very context dependent language, you’re not going to get a special character used that always denotes hyperbole or not.
 
There are better ways to find a consistent relativistic scale for Mid/top tiers. Haku coming out of the mirrors is SoL on the site, and the base Lee and Guy react to his movement in the war. I asked Arc to calc it a while ago but I forgot to remember him.
 
You can argue his Susanoo can form itself at comparable speeds but it doesn’t scale anywhere. Laser circus violates our laser beam standards for light speed.
Itachi would still need to consciously activate the the technique so his reaction speed should be LS. Ya cuz they move weirdly but isn’t that due to darwi controlling them?
 
You’re wrong. Because the sentence doesn’t need to be structured in any specific way to be hyperbolic. It’s context dependent, as Japanese is a very context dependent language, you’re not going to get a special character used that always denotes hyperbole or not.
Yes, it is possible. Because there are certain ways to use "speed of light" in a hyperbolic tone. You can also check the ways in which the text is structured, and whether it makes any sense in terms of technique or character. For example, Itachi's text says nothing other than "Bullets emerge from the water and travel towards the enemy at the speed of light". There is no way to see a hyperbole here, the onus is on whoever indicates that it is a Hyperbole, if he cannot, then there is no reason for us to consider it a hyperbole.
 
Formation speed =/= activation speed
He reacted to it regardless so idk why your trying to downplay it
More like perception speed
But like I said a few pages ago, it's not really useful in the long run as nobody moves FTE to either him or EMS Sasuke
Didn't crosscheck the Juubito stuff so I may be wrong
Ya which scales to his reaction speed. That’s kind of a big thing with the shargian as shown in sasuke fight with Naruto.
 
Yes, it is possible. Because there are certain ways to use "speed of light" in a hyperbolic tone. You can also check the ways in which the text is structured, and whether it makes any sense in terms of technique or character. For example, Itachi's text says nothing other than "Bullets emerge from the water and travel towards the enemy at the speed of light". There is no way to see a hyperbole here, the onus is on whoever indicates that it is a Hyperbole, if he cannot, then there is no reason for us to consider it a hyperbole.
Your translation is misleading. A more proper translation would go as follows: “Light speed bullets produced from water emerge from the blind spot to gouge out the opponent”. But regardless, yes you can deduce either translation to be hyperbolic or literal depending on the context. It is not be default either. Again you are wrong.
 
Ya which scales to his reaction speed. That’s kind of a big thing with the shargian as shown in sasuke fight with Naruto.
Reaction speed requires actual movements
 
I’m not trying to do anything, you asked a question I gave my explanation. If you don’t feel satisfied by my explanation, feel free to construct a CRT on it to get a more “official” discussion and consensus.
Ok so your telling me that the reasoning for itachi not having ls reaction is because his sussano formation speed deemed more important then him actually reacting to the bolt?


Reaction speed requires actual movements
Ya which is why sauske apeed got amped mid fight
Factoring in the distance between the Kirin cloud and itachi, I don't think it'll result it anything noteworthy if the feat is calc'd
Pretty sure he activated it when it was much closer but whatever
 
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