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I find it quite disconcerting that EMS Madara's Legged Susanoo is rated as 44,000 times stronger than Edo Madara's Legged Susanoo
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Verse equalisationVE?
your refering to kamui? and also why does it powernull/negate all ninjutsu but with EE it only says ninjutsu?
We also have regular MHS based on Genin Neji scaling.But I mean isn't MHS+ jonin based on upscaling from Kakuzu's False Darkness? That's a bigger problem imo, since Kakashi is much faster than most jonin and he was probably using Shunshin to get to his comrades as quickly as possible. Might've been Raikiri amped too if he already had it activated.
Sukuna vs the 5 Kage at the 5 Kage Summit was a real match back in the day.Tbh, Sukuna (Sans Hax) is Jonin Level. That says a lot.
I think you need to remove this notion that akatsuki or people like hebi sasuke are so far above high level jonin that they would blitz them. In truth they are like relative in speed and they have feats to back them up. Some are even faster. What makes the akatsuki so unique and far above them is their techniques and jutsu in their disposal. There is nothing wrong with their speed being similar tbh.Kinda is given how high the bar is for LS characters, and he's not several times faster than Hebi Sasuke or Darui
We also can't assume that his arms were to his side
The problem is that there's no reason for the databook to refer to different values with the word lightning speed, so it having a range irl isn't very relevant. Idek if it having variable speed is widely known.
Bruh, tell me you're not serious SPSM Naruto is a genin, Minato being a jonin doesn't limit his strength to jonin level. He's even beyond Kage level.
I'm just saying Narutoverse lightning speed~Hebi Sasuke/False Darkness/Black Panther>>Jonin level
Is it from the anime or a movie? Doesn't really matter in that case.
This is kinda true. If someone wanted to rock with the Akatsuki off pure stats, they'd at least need to be able to wrestle a V2 Jinchuuriki bare-handed.I think you need to remove this notion that akatsuki or people like hebi sasuke are so far above high level jonin that they would blitz them. In truth they are like relative in speed and they have feats to back them up. Some are even faster. What makes the akatsuki so unique and far above them is their techniques and jutsu in their disposal. There is nothing wrong with their speed being similar tbh.
The facts are kakashi as well as a good number of jonin can keep up with people like hebi sasuke and akatsuki members I speed with no problem. I'm pretty sure asuma had zero issues with speed fighting hidan and kakuzu. They just can't match the rest of their arsenal.
Also for that first statement the difference between sub rel and sol is over 50 times. Sub rel is definitely not a high bar for someone hyped to be so fast as to run and cut lightning as a kid
Like chunin level to Jonin level in terms overall physical stats. And kage level with hax. Excluding outliers like. YUKIS BLACK HOLE 🕳Where do you think JJK top tiers cap at in the Narutoverse?
okey. is there a difference between narutos and hagoromo TSO?Go to Hagoromo's profile, it the most up to date. That will give you all the things TSO can do and more
Nah its the same. All TSO are the same even ETSOokey. is there a difference between narutos and hagoromo tso?
Nards profile is outdatedno space time on narutos TSO profile ''Can erase Ninjutsu, people, and matter''
Doesn't erase space time only space iirc.no space time on narutos TSO profile ''Can erase Ninjutsu, people, and matter''
why does everyone say nards & sauce were did that come from lolNards
that’s my personal scale, not based of the wikiBro got Supersonic Large Town level Akatsuki
don't know where it started, I just call him thatwhy does everyone say nards & sauce were did that come from lol
L, just make the number higher, easy.that’s my personal scale, not based of the wiki
BasedL, just make the number higher, easy.
For sureGojo and Sukuna are almost certainly above Supersonic just from massively upscaling from Cursya
I think chainsaw top tiers have better speed then jjk so they probably do a lot better. Gun,falling, darkness and true chainsaw devil might be peak jonnin to low kageWhat about Chainsaw man? How far do they go?
Top tiers are like high Jonin to Kage, they still struggle with speed though, but they have better or more easily usable hax.What about Chainsaw man? How far do they go?
In a jerk off contest?
Based on the site stats sureWe also have regular MHS based on Genin Neji scaling.
Base BoS Sasuke blitzed Naruto and Sakura, 3T Hebi Sasuke blitzed Suigetsu and Jugo (not just with Shunshin either since he wrapped them with snakes) and almost blitzed Deidara, Sasori blitzed Sakura, Kakuzu blitzed Asuma and in his merged state seemed to blitz Kakashi Ino and Choji, Gaara's sand perception blitzed Cee, Minato blitzed Mahiru, 3T Itachi blitzed Kakashi, no one seemed to see V1 Ay dashing away from Jugo's blasts, Armless Orochimaru blitzed Yamato, I could go on and on there are a ridiculous number of blitzes that Kage level characters perform on High Jonin level and higher characters.I think you need to remove this notion that akatsuki or people like hebi sasuke are so far above high level jonin that they would blitz them. In truth they are like relative in speed and they have feats to back them up. Some are even faster. What makes the akatsuki so unique and far above them is their techniques and jutsu in their disposal. There is nothing wrong with their speed being similar tbh.
Asuma is one of the strongest jonin and Hidan is the slowest Akatsuki member, not very analogous. And he couldn't even keep up with Base Kakuzu who I'd argue is the second slowest member.The facts are kakashi as well as a good number of jonin can keep up with people like hebi sasuke and akatsuki members I speed with no problem. I'm pretty sure asuma had zero issues with speed fighting hidan and kakuzu. They just can't match the rest of their arsenal.
Considering how many speed gaps there are between Early Shippuden Kakashi and Kirin/KM0 Mifune/P1 Itachi, it kinda is. Also either way that doesn't change my point later in the comment about lightning speed.Also for that first statement the difference between sub rel and sol is over 50 times. Sub rel is definitely not a high bar for someone hyped to be so fast as to run and cut lightning as a kid
1. Can you give me the scan where it says his speed caused the space to bend.Say, correct me if I’m wrong, but there’s something I’ve never understood:
Why isn’t 8th Gate Guy — at least with Night Guy — considered FTL for literally warping space with his mere speed?
I think the DB attributed the bending of space to his Chakra and not his speed…1. Can you give me the scan where it says his speed caused the space to bend.
2. Also give me the calc that puts bending space at FTL.
Well, the Quiz Book says, “Speed and Effort”.
Bro literally went "What's in your way? Space? Uh, why don't you just try harder?"Well, the Quiz Book says, “Speed and Effort”.
Idk if that matters though.
Edit: Just reread it. There is no comma between, “Effort Enough”, so the reference isn’t in regard to speed nor does it draw an equivalence between Speed and the Effort that is bending space.
You could read it as either speed and effort enough or speed and effort enoughWell, the Quiz Book says, “Speed and Effort”.
Idk if that matters though.
Edit: Just reread it. There is no comma between, “Effort Enough”, so the reference isn’t in regard to speed nor does it draw an equivalence between Speed and the Effort that is bending space.
Let's tackle them one by one.Based on the site stats sure
Base BoS Sasuke blitzed Naruto and Sakura, 3T Hebi Sasuke blitzed Suigetsu and Jugo (not just with Shunshin either since he wrapped them with snakes) and almost blitzed Deidara, Sasori blitzed Sakura, Kakuzu blitzed Asuma and in his merged state seemed to blitz Kakashi Ino and Choji, Gaara's sand perception blitzed Cee, Minato blitzed Mahiru, 3T Itachi blitzed Kakashi, no one seemed to see V1 Ay dashing away from Jugo's blasts, Armless Orochimaru blitzed Yamato, I could go on and on there are a ridiculous number of blitzes that Kage level characters perform on High Jonin level and higher characters.
Asuma is one of the strongest jonin and Hidan is the slowest Akatsuki member, not very analogous. And he couldn't even keep up with Base Kakuzu who I'd argue is the second slowest member.
Considering how many speed gaps there are between Early Shippuden Kakashi and Kirin/KM0 Mifune/P1 Itachi, it kinda is. Also either way that doesn't change my point later in the comment about lightning speed.
Well, the Quiz Book says, “Speed and Effort”.
Idk if that matters though.
Edit: Just reread it. There is no comma between, “Effort Enough”, so the reference isn’t in regard to speed nor does it draw an equivalence between Speed and the Effort that is bending space.
Why Guy's speed would be FTL instead of just relativistic is my question. I thought bending space is done using Einstein's General Relativity theory. There's no FTL in that. Guy in theory would need huge amounts of inertial mass to replicate the effect that celestial bodies have on space-time. For that to happen, he needs to move at high speeds, or somehow increase his mass using his chakra or power or sumn. But at best it would be relativistic iirc.You could read it as either speed and effort enough or speed and effort enough
Remember the time when Deidara blasted in Hebi Sasuke's ass? Good times.what about Hebi Sasuke's Ass?
art is an explosionRemember the time when Deidara blasted in Hebi Sasuke's ass? Good times.