The movie also gave Hinata Hamura chakra only to bench her for the rest of her life. But that's on Boruto not the movie. And yeah the genjutsu stuff was wack. The last had good parts for sure but the bad parts kinda overshadow for me.
Tbh I think I stopped paying attention at that part lol.so I didn’t even realize she got a power up.Ya, but the boruto movie is as bad, right?
Nah it's better than the Last but it's not anything groundbreaking either. It's cool. The anime does it far better tho.
Oh, so should I just watch the anime then?
Tell me which if any of these premises you disagree with:
I don't believe that's been stated anywhere. He wouldn't have been able to use that against Kakashi anyways since he spawned those rods out of Kamui. Juubito had better options sure but they still could've been useful if he used them appropriately.
That can just mean Lightning Cable>Raikiri. That's kinda my point, Naruto was too busy just trying to defend to even have the chance to attack, while Kakashi was just fine attacking and defending.
Oooor Kakashi just got faster and the jinchuriki don't scale to Late WA Kakashi.
Uh those links don't work, though I assume this is about the moment where Naruto pushed Naruto and Sasuke out of the way of Kaguya's chakra arm? Cause that's fine, clones are not weaker than the original when the clones are out. As I said before, doing the Shadow Clone jutsu equally and evenly distributes chakra between you and your clones, meaning when your clones are out, you're relative to those weaker versions of yourself. As for Sasuke, that just means it's easier to push someone out of the way of something than to dodge it yourself.
This part of the argument is just gonna go in circles tbh
Uhhhhhhh I'm kinda confused? I said it was fine in response to you implying it wouldn't be. Although about the Kakashi~KCM Minato point, I'm pretty sure Minato was fatigued considering he had given all his KCM chakra to Naruto not too long ago and was just regaining his cloak when he then spread his chakra all over the alliance and contributed to a chakra tug of war that Kakashi entirely missed.
They obviously have intent to do something considering Obito gave them orders of what to do.
So did Guy?
I think there are some pros to the movie version
Then should I watch both?
How about we just agree to disagree
Like Sparkle said. I think you should watch both of them but not back to back I guess. But if you're in a time crunch and could only watch one, then I'd recommend the Anime for sure.
I think I'd suggest watching the anime version first then the movie later (so you have more context for stuff that might be glossed over in the movie), but the reverse order is technically the way it's meant to be watched since that's the release order
Sure
Pretty much that and just WA Kakashi's level in general
I suppose this
Hm ig I'm cool with 4x actually
He solos the Five Kage
His stats went from like Base Naruto level+ to KCM2 Naruto/Rinnegan Obito tier
Oh yh defs
Aside from the V2 Fight (Which, after Guy freed him, KCM Naruto fought off-screen and wasn’t show like Kakashi and Guy except for this 1 panel), have you taken into consideration Kakashi was Kyuubi Amped 100% almost by time he fought Obito?
About thatAside from the V2 Fight (Which, after Guy freed him, KCM Naruto fought off-screen and wasn’t show like Kakashi and Guy except for this 1 panel), have you taken into consideration Kakashi was Kyuubi Amped 100% almost by time he fought Obito?
I mean… Kakashi vs Obito isn’t exactly “Base Kakashi” vs Obito technically. Kurama strapped a V6 to that mf!
The cloak isn’t what i’m referring two. Remember, Kakashi’s own reserves were completely empty when Naruto saved him from Obito. After this point, Kakashi’s entire tank was refilled with Kyuubi Chakra. The Cloak was just excess after Kurama gave them MORE chakra. So Kakashi vs Obito is still a MASSIVELY Kyuubi Amped Kakashi.
P sure he'd just wanna absorb all the Kurama chakra. At the very least, there's no proof that he did still have Kurama chakra. It's also not like he only has Obito level feats after first getting Kurama's chakra (if anything it kinda seems like they had a whole offscreen fight between Chapter 601 and 607, while Naruto Bee and Guy were fighting Madara).
Rinnegan absorption is kinda weird, since it clearly amps Sasuke, but it doesn't really seem to boost anyone else. Otherwise, the Preta Path would've been goated after absorbing the Rasenshuriken.
Or he just got that raw durability
Pretty big change, hasriama and Minato scale to the full 9taiks so I’d image there be a decent change in tiers
If you mean the One Shot, Kurama was suppressed
We still waiting for Jogan.
True but Minato got a hole in his stomach and was posioned. So I think he’d still scale
The green orb used to knock her out messed up her chakra network. I don't think the movie mentioned that but the novelisation did
Unquantifiable, and that'd put Teen Minato on the level of the Wood Golem and Perfect Susanoo, which is quite inconsistent.
Agreed. Maybe there’s more set up than what I’m remembering since it’s been awhile since I watched the movie but Naruto confessing his love just felt rushed and kinda weird to me
Absorbing the cloak has never been tantamount to absorbing all the chakra out of the body (Look at Kisame vs Bee). Even Pain DIRECTLY absorbing Chakra from Naruto’s body wasn’t instant and his Preta wouldn’t be diminished because he has both Rinnegan, not just 1.
Why wouldn’t he? He was stated and shown to be completely drained and only continued past that point because of Kyuubi Chakra and nothing indicates or implies he would somehow have lost that chakra at that point. Again, w/o Kyuubi Chakra he was gassed and he’s clearly not after the fact.
Honestly, it’s likely Obito wasn’t going all out there, even if we agree that there was an entire off-screen fight between those chapters. Kakashi was massively drained and out of chakra when Kurama refilled his tank. Kakashi after that moment is FAR superior to whatever he would be had he been fresh w/ no Kyuubi Chakra, and I’m sure on that we agree.
The Databook expressly states the chakra is dispersed inside the body. You can argue Kishimoto was inconsistent, but we know how it works, especially with Biju Chakra given Nagato and B.
Or Obito was just holding back…
Not really, it just means Minato is in the same ballpark at 9tails. Kurama was wanking him up to be a shinobi as great as hasriama or something like that. And the rasegean was always supposed to be an extremely powerful jutsu sooo….
I mean, she did fight Momoshiki + Kinshiki and live.
The anime is alright if you skip 90% of the filler, but the manga is better
The movie mentions her body was numb, that scene is heavily criticized despite their being explanations.
Kyuubinato FRA
9-Tails is on par with Perfect Susano'o, what are you disagreeing with?
I kinda thought 9 tails was below them but you’re right his on the same lvl. I guess Minato is just HIM
Minato is factually below Kurama. He would have slaughtered Obito and A4 if he wasn't.
There is always the rotational K.E absorbing feat
He factually is not, hiruzen was literally waiting for Minato to swoop in and save the day. He kinda did, obito got sent packing(and probably only survived because good ole hasriama cells) and Minato was gonna straight murder A if bee didn’t save him. Heck A still glazes Minato to this day.
That's hokage minato. Hokage minato can definitely take on kurama. It was teen minato he was talking about
