Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

[AnimesFreak2]

Kaguya's dimensions


The different worlds to which the mother of chakra teleports

The six dimensions to which Kaguya can teleport are very distant from each other. It takes an enormous amount of chakra to instantly reach these six worlds. The primitive space is a desert and rocky world covered with mountains, where Kaguya heals her wounds quickly and easily and is able to recover her chakra reserves by absorbing the energy of the victims of the Infinite Tsukuyomi (mugen bukuyom This world is connected to the other five dimensions and constitutes a transit zone that allows her to reach them more easily


SIX WORLDS

The other five dimensions have very different morphological characteristics and are only connected through space-time doors that Kaguya opens and closes as she pleases. In addition to primitive space, the first dimension is a land with lots of lava and volcanoes, where only people capable of flying the future in the air can fight. The second dimension is an icy world with high peaks and deep valleys covered in eternal snows


A HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT

Kaguya's dimensions are uninhabited and hostile territories where no human being could survive The third dimension is a barren desert, with dunes stretching as far as the eye can see. The fourth dimension is an endless sea of acid, which tears apart everything it touches The last dimension is a geometric world whose very intense force of gravity makes any displacement or movement almost impossible.


AN INTERDIMENSIONAL JUTSU





Kaguya's most powerful and extraordinary techniques are her space-time jutsus. By using them, she can teleport and take her enemies to other dimensions. This technique results from the combination of two different abilities: amenominaka and yomotsu hirasaka. The former is an interdimensional jutsu which, thanks to the power of the rinne sharingan, allows Kaguya to instantly take her enemies to alternative dimensions using their specificities as tactical advantages: rivers of lava, glacial mountains or seas of acid. With the yomotsu hirasaka, her second ability, Kaguya is able to tear the fabric of space-time, thus creating portals that give access to her alternative dimensions or, like Obito's kamui, which allow her to launch Felampago attacks against her opponents from impossible angles.


THE SIX DIMENSIONS



The interdimensional leap takes Kaguya's enemies suddenly and unexpectedly to a hostile new Universe.

This guide is only available in Portuguese

Have had these scans since April of last year

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Yes because Dragon Ball is popular and has the reputation of being "strong" but I don't think they win matchups left and right.

I mean I'm not gonna do a thorough analysis of that but I didn't get the impression that they constantly lose

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Have had these scans since April of last year

Really bro?

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Yes because Dragon Ball is popular and has the reputation of being "strong" but I don't think they win matchups left and right.

As a Dragon Ball fan i have to agree, although the verse is quite strong in terms of destruction and deeds, it still lacks hax to beat characters, furthermore, all hax fights Goku goes to break them with stronger ki

 

[Hasty12345]

Have had these scans since April of last year

2-C Kaguya?

 

[Padaruyos]

Hashirama>Juubito

We actually scale this way in this wiki

 

[Hasty12345]

We actually scale this way in this wiki

do we actually have hashirama > juubito?

 

[AnimesFreak2]

2-C Kaguya?

Yeah looking earlier in my discord history

Found this in a server I am in on roughly on April 20th last year and talked about it with my buddies

 

[AnimesFreak2]

2-C Kaguya?

I mean if you believe it's valid then yes

My only issue is proving these magazines are valid or whatever

 

[AnimesFreak2]

I'd say for now it's decent supplementary evidence at best if you wanna argue the 2-C meta

 

[Hasty12345]

I mean if you believe it's valid then yes

My only issue is proving these magazines are valid or whatever

some verses use sticker books as valid evidence so this shouldn't have any issues

 

[Padaruyos]

do we actually have hashirama > juubito?

Alive SM Hashirama's Mokuton caps out at 396 Teratons while Juubito is at 200 Teratons.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

I’m a little confused on how the third tsuchikage could learn the particle style kekkai toutia from the 2nd when it’s supposed to be bloodline bound

 

[Mamaroza]

I also have a friend who says Hashirama>Juubito, Toneri and Konan>KCM2 Minato, Adult Gaara.

W

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

I’m a little confused on how the third tsuchikage could learn the particle style kekkai toutia from the 2nd when it’s supposed to be bloodline bound

IIRC Ay and Onoki do say this:

Maybe the 2nd and the 3rd Tsuchikage share the same bloodline or something close enough? Or it might be a similar case to Yamato and cell implants?

 

[Avengershows]

You can try get those feat calced and maybe find some other feats.

Don't really see why, I would calc them myself if I knew we'd 100% make anime profiles

 

[BlastX]

I mean if you wait for someone else to do it, it's never gonna get done.

 

[Avengershows]

I mean if you wait for someone else to do it, it's never gonna get done.

I'm not waiting for someone else to do it, I just don't know if I'd be the only one working on these things which would be extremely annoying

 

[SlendVeny]

I’m a little confused on how the third tsuchikage could learn the particle style kekkai toutia from the 2nd when it’s supposed to be bloodline bound

You don't need a bloodline to combine multiple chakra natures, it's just hard.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

You don't need a bloodline to combine multiple chakra natures, it's just hard.

Technically you can by stacking a technique on to another like hiruzen using earth style and fire style individual. But to have a style like lava,gale,ice or particle I thought was supposed to be impossible unless your related by blood,got that person’s cells or eyes.

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

Where does 396.7Tt come from for Hashirama and Madara?

 

[SlendVeny]

Technically you can by stacking a technique on to another like hiruzen using earth style and fire style individual. But to have a style like lava,gale,ice or particle I thought was supposed to be impossible unless your related by blood,got that person’s cells or eyes.

You can combine Chakra Natures and stuff without that, I believe that was stated in a few novels and databooks, it's just really hard to do it.

 

[SlendVeny]

Where does 396.7Tt come from for Hashirama and Madara?

That's for MAS, right? I think that's Madara PS + Full Kurama.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Where does 396.7Tt come from for Hashirama and Madara?

Shinsuu Senju scaling above the Majestic Attire Susanoo which is above the Perfect Susanoo + Kurama

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

You can combine Chakra Natures and stuff without that, I believe that was stated in a few novels and databooks, it's just really hard to do it.

That’s kinda weird with what’s been set up so far in the main series but I guess maybe the 3rd tsukikage is just built different

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

Shinsuu Senju scaling above the Majestic Attire Susanoo which is above the Perfect Susanoo + Kurama

This needs to be reflected on the verse page and in the profiles better because it’s kinda just there, no context.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

While I was hoping I’d get to see Hanzo go off and just so how much of a beast he was I do appreciate the added backstory and character development

 

[MinatoSparkle]

This needs to be reflected on the verse page and in the profiles better because it’s kinda just there, no context.

I wouldn't say no context but I suppose a bit about the MAS being Madara + Kurama would probably be ideal

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

I wouldn't say no context but I suppose a bit about the MAS being Madara + Kurama would probably be ideal

Plus its not on the Verse Page.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Yeah the verse page seems a bit outdated

 

[Padaruyos]

Aight so we have a problem here. The Last Naruto's profile states that he's at least 4.3 GT possibly 88.74 ET, but his BSM form is at most 44.37 ET. What happened to that possibly rating? Why is Base Naruto possibly stronger than his BSM form?? Same goes for Toneri.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Aight so we have a problem here. The Last Naruto's profile states that he's at least 4.3 GT possibly 88.74 ET, but his BSM form is at most 44.37 ET. What happened to that possibly rating? Why is Base Naruto possibly stronger than his BSM form?? Same goes for Toneri.

It's from Base Naruto~Sasuke. But yeah they really shouldn't be scaling fully to these levels.

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

I'm not waiting for someone else to do it, I just don't know if I'd be the only one working on these things which would be extremely annoying

I'm also thinking of watching the Naruto movies that I haven't watched lately. I have in mind the feats and haxes in some elephant sections. If you want, let's create Anime profiles together. We can open a general discussion called "Naruto (Anime)" where we can all discuss the Anime Canon and feats in the Movies.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I'm also thinking of watching the Naruto movies that I haven't watched lately. I have in mind the feats and haxes in some elephant sections. If you want, let's create Anime profiles together. We can open a general discussion called "Naruto (Anime)" where we can all discuss the Anime Canon and feats in the Movies.

By the way, are all Naruto films canon?

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

By the way, are all Naruto films canon?

Only The Last movie is Canon. There is also a movie where they fight Momoshiki. But the movie version, novel version and manga version of this movie are different. If I'm not mistaken, the manga version is considered canon in this wiki.

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

So I was arguing with this one Naruto Youtuber and they bring up some good points… Kishimoto didn’t directly write the Databooks and sure enough, I can’t find anything in the databooks that credit him as the author of it, and based in Kishimoto’s own words about the creation of the book, it seems more like he just gave his blessing on it…

But his level of involvement was the same as the official “Anime Profile Guides” that were released. Am I missing something? Or do we accept those as somewhat Canon as well? Or am I missing something vital?

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Only The Last movie is Canon. There is also a movie where they fight Momoshiki. But the movie version, novel version and manga version of this movie are different. If I'm not mistaken, the manga version is considered canon in this wiki.

I see, i thought the films were canon to the anime, especially the best Naruto movie Blood Prison :3

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

So I was arguing with this one Naruto Youtuber and they bring up some good points… Kishimoto didn’t directly write the Databooks and sure enough, I can’t find anything in the databooks that credit him as the author of it, and based in Kishimoto’s own words about the creation of the book, it seems more like he just gave his blessing on it…

But his level of involvement was the same as the official “Anime Profile Guides” that were released. Am I missing something? Or do we accept those as somewhat Canon as well? Or am I missing something vital?

Are you talking about the guide i mentioned here?

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

Naruto movie Blood Prison

I had one movie. There were people who said that since that movie was a novel, it should be canon. I think that movie is this movie. I coded it as a Raikage movie in my mind.

 

[BlastX]

I had one movie. There were people who said that since that movie was a novel, it should be canon. I think that movie is this movie. I coded it as a Raikage movie in my mind.

It's canon in broad strokes, because it has too many contradictions to be fully canon.