Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

[MinatoSparkle]

Prove it. Naruto scaling doesn't apply to boruto because there's no evidence for the respective characters to scale.

That's like saying Naruto P2 characters don't scale to P1 characters cause there's no evidence for them to scale. And anyways there is. Isshiki is stated to be the strongest villain of all, meaning he's above Kaguya and Juubidara.

Thats not how evidence works. You have to prove it doesnt

No. Look at the definition of an argument from ignorance.

You mean like Isshiki did to Sasuke's sword lmao.

??? You know the reason he couldn't do that is because it was actually Boruto right?

 

[Darsh748]

I think Toneri must be stronger than Kaguya too, he has a similar statement.

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Cept Toneri's statement has other contradicting statements....

Momoshiki has far more consistent statements+the god damn narrative from even before Boruto started that make his case more believable

 

[MinatoSparkle]

I think Toneri must be stronger than Kaguya too, he has a similar statement.

Cept Toneri's statement has other contradicting statements....

Kaguya was a greater threat cause she was stronger compared to the heroes at the time.

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Kaguya was a greater threat cause she was stronger compared to the heroes at the time.

Toneri has to absorb Naruto's chakra ( someone stronger than him ) plus Energy from the Sun to reach Hamura's level bro

The same Hamura who is inferior to Kaguya even years later

There's nothing that supports Toneri being superior to Kaguya period my guy

 

[Galvino]

Idk if The Last Naruto could one shot Kaguya in the same fashion he did to Toneri heh, I don't see it.

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Idk if The Last Naruto could one shot Kaguya in the same fashion he did to Toneri heh, I don't see it.

I do believe The Last Naruto could beat Kaguya comfortably due to several statements

But only in Six Paths mode

I don't see BSM winning

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

“Strongest enemy” =/= “strongest enemy of all time”

 

[GTsek]

The speed scaling and AP are dogshit, as I don't think US69 will come back anytime soon, I guess I'll start a several thread later to improve it a bit. But before that, I'll need calculations and some information. Can someone with experience in speed tell me if "information processing speed" feat scales to perception? There's an interesting calculation about Itachi's Tsukuyomi, and I remember that when it was briefly discussed, it little commented and quickly forgotten in the thread...

 

[Godernet]

as far as I've heard the Itachi feat is just processing speed and doesn't really scale to anyone.

 

[GTsek]

as far as I've heard the Itachi feat is just processing speed and doesn't really scale to anyone.

Yes, that's what I was thinking. I was wondering if it scales to perception or reaction just to put it on his profile. I also don't think it scales for anyone. Someone should FTE him for some scale, and that never happened as far as I can remember.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Toneri has to absorb Naruto's chakra ( someone stronger than him ) plus Energy from the Sun to reach Hamura's level bro

The same Hamura who is inferior to Kaguya even years later

Is there any proof for Kaguya>Prime Hamura?

“Strongest enemy” =/= “strongest enemy of all time”

Isshiki's statement is similar

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

it doesnt even matter, the Kaguya naruto and sasuke fought near the end was running on fumes.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

but can we lowkey talk about the fact that Naruto skill stomped two Otsutuski in hand to hand combat who had millennia worth of combat experience?

 

[Godernet]

Naruto's most underrated taijutsu moment imo was when his clones were swapping hands evenly with Madara's Limbo Clones.

Fighting someone with decades of war experience and amazing taijutsu while they're completely invisible and all you have is the ability to sense their whereabouts is crazy.

 

[Halkum145]

processing speed" feat scales to perception

Perception speed. ftl with Tsukuyomi

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

 

[Nierre]

So do the manga and the anime (Boruto Era) just have different artstyles but they're meant to represent the same form? Which one is it called?

(Also what's the form in the LAST)

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

they both six paths sage mode but they have different character designs.

in the last thats just KCM 2 with sage mode.

 

[KingogKings777]

Copy and paste goes burr.

 

[Excellence616]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/jirobo-town-level-removal-naruto.148756/

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

they both six paths sage mode but they have different character designs.

in the last thats just KCM 2 with sage mode.

The anime and manga having inconsistent character models is just weird

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

The anime and manga having inconsistent character models is just weird

Agreed.

 

[Gokukid2005]

No one outside Sakura wankers takes Sakura punching Kaguya seriously. They all know the amount of "carry" the others did for her to pull that off. But Sakura wankers think she did it or planned it with her strength.

Why exactly is Sakura damaging Kaguya bad?

 

[Shadyboi0]

Peak transformation right here

 

[Nierre]

Why exactly is Sakura damaging Kaguya bad?

bait.

 

[KingogKings777]

Peak transformation right here

Bad bait.

 

[Shadyboi0]

Bad bait.

Who said i was baiting?

 

[KingogKings777]

Who said i was baiting?

Bad taste then.

 

[ShadowWhoWalks]

Why exactly is Sakura damaging Kaguya bad?

Because she is not a chosen one. She doesn't earn the right to stand beside Naru and Sauce.

 

[Shadyboi0]

Bad taste then.

Acquired taste is more like it. Bad taste? that's just 3-A naruto

 

[Tdjwo]

Why exactly is Sakura damaging Kaguya bad?

Because it's exactly the same as chunin exams Boruto damaging fused Momoshiki. Inconsistent ass feat.

 

[Shadyboi0]

Because it's exactly the same as chunin exams Boruto damaging fused Momoshiki. Inconsistent ass feat.

not really, the latter's way worse

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

Because she is not a chosen one. She doesn't earn the right to stand beside Naru and Sauce.

Earned? Naruto and Sasuke got powerups handed to them and won so many of their fights with plot armor. Sakura legit earned her stats, ngl.

 

[Shadyboi0]

Earned? Naruto and Sasuke got powerups handed to them and won so many of their fights with plot armor. Sakura legit earned her stats, ngl.

She Earned 5-B unironically

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

She Earned 5-B unironically

fr

And Naruto and Sasuke needed plot to get that rating lol

 

[KingogKings777]

When people have a low reading comp and don't remember the fight between Neji vs Kidomaru. Where it established the blind spot of the Byakugan.

 

[ShadowWhoWalks]

Earned? Naruto and Sasuke got powerups handed to them and won so many of their fights with plot armor. Sakura legit earned her stats, ngl.

Doing BS without chosen one BS powerups is even worse though. It basically means the plot gave up and won't even try to justify the BS.

Madara's Limbo clones can casually stop her attack and Tsunade struggles to against a regular Susanoo. Naruto doing a barrage of his best physical and Rasenshuriken attacks didn't leave obvious injuries on Kaguya, but now a single punch from Sakura makes a boosted Kaguya bleed and breaks her horn?

Not only that, but her Chakra reserves overshadows Naruto's.
Naruto with a single active clone (50% of his Chakra) is not enough to support Obito opening portals to other dimensions, but with the aid of Sakura's Byakugao seal he says that Sakura's help will give him the bare minimum to search for Sasuke:

Kaguya detects them and attacks them, so Naruto creates a bazillion clones to distract Kaguya, and Sakura has to power the portals to other dimensions all on her own:

Obito says that connecting to other dimensions is an incredible feat for Kaguya. And Zetsu confirms that Kaguya teleporting people around her are taxing for her Chakra reserves:

Like for real, the Otstsuki are barking at the wrong tree. They should be hunting down Sakura instead of Bijuu and Jinchūriki.
And Sakura damaged Kaguya after Sakura expended her Chakra so much she collapsed, and can no longer maintain the portals.

When people have a low reading comp and don't remember the fight between Neji vs Kidomaru. Where it established the blind spot of the Byakugan.

She obviously needs Stealth Mastery added to her profile. She earned it by her own effort as a Shinobi.

 

[Tdjwo]

No way are any of you actually taking Sakura punching Kaguya seriously. That shit is the same thing as Boruto punching Momoshiki holy shit

 

[Shadyboi0]

No way are any of you actually taking Sakura punching Kaguya seriously. That shit is the same thing as Boruto punching Momoshiki holy shit

this is worse.