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I don't see how those contradict anything? Afaik, none of the stuff in that Kido fight scales to EoS Sakura since Sakura was nerfed
Eos base Sakura < blank period base sakura < Byakugo Sakura ~ Kido ~ new era Kakashi < Koji ~ 10% base Jigen << Base jigen ~ base Naruto < Momoshiki >/~ Kaguya

If Sakura is apparently close to IT Kaguya speed who is exponentially above base Kaguya per BZ statement, then the entire narrative won’t make sense.
 
Guys, Sakura punching Kaguya is an outlier. She’s nowhere near their level. It was a PIS showing to defeat her. Nothing more.
Eh, emotion amps are a thing in Naruto and can be used to justify that feat. But normally, I agree, she’s nowhere near that level.
 
Eos base Sakura < blank period base sakura < Byakugo Sakura ~ Kido ~ new era Kakashi < Koji ~ 10% base Jigen << Base jigen ~ base Naruto < Momoshiki >/~ Kaguya

If Sakura is apparently close to IT Kaguya speed who is exponentially above base Kaguya per BZ statement, then the entire narrative won’t make sense.
1. Was Sakura not still nerfed when she used Byakugo against Kido?
2. Base Jigen is far above Base Naruto
3. I'd argue Base Momoshiki>IT Kaguya
4. Sakura is not "close" to IT Kaguya necessarily given the distance, just not completely speed cliffed
Eh, emotion amps are a thing in Naruto and can be used to justify that feat. But normally, I agree, she’s nowhere near that level.
You can consider that placement of her only in an elevated mental state idm, I'm just saying Sakura in the Kaguya fight is that tier
 
When they give the backstory of uzuhiko, I hope they give more info on the origin of nature energy.
 
Was Sakura not still nerfed when she used Byakugo against Kido?
well, it should have reverted all her nerfs similar to Tsunade’s case, and still be higher than her regular base🤷‍♂️
Base Jigen is far above Base Naruto
Idk, he hasn’t really shown any form of supremacy to base naruto. base nard took a kick from base jigen and was perfectly fine after.
how many active crts are there currently
drop the thread
 
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Ykw I think maybe I did downplay Hagoromo a little and I checked the Pre-God Tree Juubidara<~Hagoromo statement and it only actually says closer not close, so him being 2E Juubidara level via that true power of the Six Paths statement is fine
インドラの転生者を終えた今は十尾の力を得てワシに近づき
Now that the reincarnation of Indra has ended, he has obtained the power of the Ten-Tails and drawn closer to me.
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well, it should have reverted all her nerfs similar to Tsunade’s case, and still be higher than her regular base🤷‍♂️
Seems a bit presumptuous
Idk, he hasn’t really shown any form of supremacy to base naruto. base nard took a kick from base jigen and was perfectly fine after.
He literally kicked and stabbed him with rods without Naruto reacting
 
is this in order?
Roughly, though some placements are adjustable
im surprised you have shisui that high, then again i have no idea about shisui's lore.
MS Shisui>>3T Shisui~Danzo~MS Sasuke
do you have him beating everyone within the tier below him?
Probably, he's faster than most/all of them and Susanoo/Kotoamatsukami are very powerful wincons. Pain would be a bit complicated though.
the kick doesn’t justify for “far higher”
it was a counterattack even
That's not really my burden, you're claiming Base Naruto is relative to him when he has no speed feats against Jigen
 
That's not really my burden, you're claiming Base Naruto is relative to him when he has no speed feats against Jigen
The speed difference between V1 Jigen and SP Naruto should be comparable in their base forms. The only feat that -presumably- defeats that isn’t allat
 
do you guys think Sasuke’s CT should be at least as potent as Nagato’s?
and momo breaking out of it grants him class P ls
 
The Wiki doesn’t seem to be letting me quote rn, but i’m not going to go back and forth with something that the narrative has gone out of it’s way to tell us. Sakura Haruno isn’t a Six Paths level combatant. Not even close.
  1. Sasuke’s view on her usefulness pre-Kaguya, even after she attacked Madara first.
  2. Sakura’s appraisal of her own skill post Kaguya’s defeat.
It is clear Kishimoto is telling the audience this girl isn’t on-par with Naruto and Sasuke. Not only that but the databook that was released AFTER the Manga had finished glazed Sakura as having “finallyreached KCM Naruto and EMS Sasuke.

And even that’s iffy as Kishimoto illustrates to us that not only does Sakura have worse CC than Tsunade, embarrassingly, which can be argued that she hasn’t even surpassed Tsunade (It doesn’t matter what The Last DB says when it is shown to be the case on panel). And Tsunade matches her output easily.

And lets not forget also… That Chakra Quantity =|= Chakra Potency. Sure, 3 years of stored Chakra could be > 1/3rd Naruto’s Chakra in Quantity, but Sakura’s Chakra isn’t even stronger than Kurama’s in the war, let alone Six Paths.

So please, @MinatoSparkle… Let’s keep it in context. The Narrative Asserts Sakura isn’t anywhere close to Naruto & Sasuke and thus her feats at that level is solely PIS and shouldn’t be taken seriously. No offense btw, this isn’t me choosing violence… 😅
 
The Wiki doesn’t seem to be letting me quote rn, but i’m not going to go back and forth with something that the narrative has gone out of it’s way to tell us. Sakura Haruno isn’t a Six Paths level combatant. Not even close.
  1. Sasuke’s view on her usefulness pre-Kaguya, even after she attacked Madara first.
There was nothing she could do about the Infinite Tsukuyomi, that's true (it's also arguable that she only had the amp in the Kaguya fight)
This just means she's weaker, which I agree she is, not that she's not Six Paths level.
It is clear Kishimoto is telling the audience this girl isn’t on-par with Naruto and Sasuke. Not only that but the databook that was released AFTER the Manga had finished glazed Sakura as having “finallyreached KCM Naruto and EMS Sasuke.
This is in reference to the moment where she earned the Byakugo seal though? That's like saying Rinnegan Sasuke~Edo Itachi cause the databook said Sasuke was finally recognized as an equal to Itachi.
And even that’s iffy as Kishimoto illustrates to us that not only does Sakura have worse CC than Tsunade, embarrassingly, which can be argued that she hasn’t even surpassed Tsunade (It doesn’t matter what The Last DB says when it is shown to be the case on panel). And Tsunade matches her output easily.
Sakura had probably been drained by the God Tree
And lets not forget also… That Chakra Quantity =|= Chakra Potency. Sure, 3 years of stored Chakra could be > 1/3rd Naruto’s Chakra in Quantity, but Sakura’s Chakra isn’t even stronger than Kurama’s in the war, let alone Six Paths.
Considering how refined Sakura's chakra control is and the fact that she can focus all of her chakra to individual body parts, her chakra quantity would translate pretty directly into stats
So please, @MinatoSparkle… Let’s keep it in context. The Narrative Asserts Sakura isn’t anywhere close to Naruto & Sasuke and thus her feats at that level is solely PIS and shouldn’t be taken seriously. No offense btw, this isn’t me choosing violence… 😅
So you have chosen... death. - Meming Wiki
 
This is referencing when Sakura unlocked her Byakugo seal and stood back to back with Naruto and Sasuke as the passage describes, so no. That's just FSWW Climax Sakura.
I don't get your point. It's still the same Sakura.
 
I don't get your point. It's still the same Sakura.
I think what Minato is trying to say is using those statements from the databook that have specific scenes to say a character can't be as strong as blank doesn't make sense cause they can always get stronger/more accustomed to their power during the war.
For example Sasuke didn't get any buff to his eyes until the Rinnegan, yet he went from being blitzed by a out of control Juubito to being able to track a controlled Juubito very quickly with the same EMS.
 
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