Jigen obviously wasn't hiding his chakra when he came to the leaf.
It's not mental gymnastics, it's just looking at the feats and statements as they are. She didn't get a new power, but she clearly got boosted for the sake of the plot, or at best a mental amp.
definitely a mental amp or more likely an outlier.
Is this an AP/Speed based scaling or a holistic scaling (all their arsenal)?
Eida says she isn't capable of seeing them with her Senringan when they erase their signatures, so it likely also remove's their presence.
Considering how many examples there are, I doubt it
Like?
Holistic
the accepted multipliers
Solid list, just need to some clarification on the Shisui placement.
Sakura > Hagoromo makes less sense then
My brother in Christ, I love Sakura more than most people, but she is not winning a fight against Hagoromo
Yeah, Sakura needs to be bumped down to Demi-God Tier.My brother in Christ, I love Sakura more than most people, but she is not winning a fight against Hagoromo
God no please no. I don't want to have to deal with what's canon and not anymore damn it.
thats not happening
Wrong. Eida says she can’t see Kawaki when he’s shrunk.
Yeah, so it has no bearings in Kurama’s Emotion Sensing, which is not connected to Chakra Sensing.
I don't see how those contradict anything? Afaik, none of the stuff in that Kido fight scales to EoS Sakura since Sakura was nerfed
Thanks, it's pretty much just MS Shisui>>3T Shisui~Danzo~MS Sasuke in terms of physicals, and Kotoamatsukami being very strong (could argue he's higher just because of that but meh, WA SM Naruto knows about it and can sense the genjutsu coming to dodge it)
It's not necessarily that I think Sakura would win in a fight, but she's a stronger general combatant and would perform better against stronger people like Naruto and Sasuke. Also I do think the speed gap is wide and that Hagoromo's offensive moves aren't gonna have much luck hitting/killing her (TSOs could do the latter but idt he'll tag her with them). Either Sakura wins using some medical ninjutsu hax or Hagoromo outlasts her Baryon Mode Naruto vs Isshiki style
^My brother in Christ, I love Sakura more than most people, but she is not winning a fight against Hagoromo
Eos base Sakura < blank period base sakura < Byakugo Sakura ~ Kido ~ new era Kakashi < Koji ~ 10% base Jigen << Base jigen ~ base Naruto < Momoshiki >/~ Kaguya
why not shove it under the empowerment key? that's more consistent than calling major feats outlier
Eh, emotion amps are a thing in Naruto and can be used to justify that feat. But normally, I agree, she’s nowhere near that level.
1. Was Sakura not still nerfed when she used Byakugo against Kido?
You can consider that placement of her only in an elevated mental state idm, I'm just saying Sakura in the Kaguya fight is that tier
the 5B movement one is probs the only one, Sage's one concluded a while ago
Most of sparkle's CRT are discussion threads
well, it should have reverted all her nerfs similar to Tsunade’s case, and still be higher than her regular base
Idk, he hasn’t really shown any form of supremacy to base naruto. base nard took a kick from base jigen and was perfectly fine after.
drop the thread
Seems a bit presumptuouswell, it should have reverted all her nerfs similar to Tsunade’s case, and still be higher than her regular base
He literally kicked and stabbed him with rods without Naruto reacting
the rods are significantly above his normal stats
is this in order? im surprised you have shisui that high, then again i have no idea about shisui's lore. do you have him beating everyone within the tier below him?
Sure, the kick still applies
the kick doesn’t justify for “far higher”
Roughly, though some placements are adjustable
MS Shisui>>3T Shisui~Danzo~MS Sasuke
Probably, he's faster than most/all of them and Susanoo/Kotoamatsukami are very powerful wincons. Pain would be a bit complicated though.
That's not really my burden, you're claiming Base Naruto is relative to him when he has no speed feats against Jigen
