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I've been through a lot of MAL chapter discussions and the amount of relentless P2 hate there needs to be studiedYknow I thought it was just current shounen fans (JJK) who hated every chapter weekly and insulted authors talent but it’s really always been this way
I was curious on some of the reactions to Kabuto’s backstory cause it’s one of my favourites and I searched some discussion boards back when it released and wow
There were so many people outright saying they skipped pages and Kishimoto was washed and his backstories for villains sucked and only worked with Zabuza
The only P2 hate that should be accepted is Black Zetsu and Kaguya hate. Should have been in Boruto instead of P2.I've been through a lot of MAL chapter discussions and the amount of relentless P2 hate there needs to be studied
bruhLMFAO
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those shin clones just vibingIt was okayish~mid only issue with it was it being to long and then never showing up again in Boruto along with the shin clones. Like you think it would be a big thing that there's a bunch of orphans with MS running around.
MayhapsThe only P2 hate that should be accepted is Black Zetsu and Kaguya hate. Should have been in Boruto instead of P2.
those shin clones just vibing![]()
Shin: When the Village is being attacked by Ten Tail beings but I'm just a chill guy in an orphanage
While it's fine to not be a fan of something, the way a lot of people engage with weekly series is so crazy.It was okayish~mid only issue with it was it being to long and then never showing up again in Boruto along with the shin clones. Like you think it would be a big thing that there's a bunch of orphans with MS running around.
Sakura above hagoromo?
Way better scalingSakura above hagoromo?
Sick Itachi's Susanoo yupedo itachi and Susano Itachi on the same tier?
Idk what Slayer has to do with thisslayer's got it
Why is sasuke, Naruto, sakura, Jubidarra, and Obito above Hago?Sakura above hagoromo?
edo itachi and Susano Itachi on the same tier?
slayer's got it
Sage mode Minato in the legend tierhttps://media.**********.net/attachments/1112893577257832572/1316512470482813050/d2fb31e7b7ad6f1d2073d50c98d9f33e20aa81ef8685262df617c38b14ddc724_1.jpg?ex=675b5148&is=6759ffc8&hm=6a089a77b6e4150f7b0c8d462becd8e10ad23fb3f291a305a21d1effac124bd2&
Hagoromo is marginally above Pre-God Tree Juubidara, Naruto/Sasuke/3 Eyed Juubidara are clearly far above that and Sakura/Obito have various feats putting them in the same tier.Why is sasuke, Naruto, sakura, Jubidarra, and Obito above Hago?
He's a tier above Base Hokage Minato who's KCM2 Naruto/Late WA Kakashi tier, and even Base Minato could outspeed Kurama who's Legend Tier, so yes (also the placement doesn't take SM Minato's short time limit into account, just his power when he's in the form)Sage mode Minato in the legend tierhttps://media.**********.net/attachments/1112893577257832572/1316512470482813050/d2fb31e7b7ad6f1d2073d50c98d9f33e20aa81ef8685262df617c38b14ddc724_1.jpg?ex=675b5148&is=6759ffc8&hm=6a089a77b6e4150f7b0c8d462becd8e10ad23fb3f291a305a21d1effac124bd2&
PIS just like how Sasuke never uses any of the rinnegan abilities.Is it a plothole that Naruto couldn’t sense Jigen via Kurama’s Negative Emotion sensing? Or PIS?
The Hagoromo that fought Kaguya is not weaker than naruto/sasuke and jubidaara. Obito and Sakura don't have any feat that I can recall. AndHagoromo is marginally above Pre-God Tree Juubidara, Naruto/Sasuke/3 Eyed Juubidara are clearly far above that and Sakura/Obito have various feats putting them in the same tier.
He's a tier above Base Hokage Minato who's KCM2 Naruto/Late WA Kakashi tier, and even Base Minato could outspeed Kurama who's Legend Tier, so yes (also the placement doesn't take SM Minato's short time limit into account, just his power when he's in the form)
Isn't Jigen pretty much a mindless corpse anyway?Is it a plothole that Naruto couldn’t sense Jigen via Kurama’s Negative Emotion sensing? Or PIS?
Arc, me,test, some others I'm blanking onwho's a naruto supporter that's good with calcs
may I please speak with you on discordArc, me,test, some others I'm blanking on
Suremay I please speak with you on discord![]()
Is it a plothole that Naruto couldn’t sense Jigen via Kurama’s Negative Emotion sensing? Or PIS?
That's not really a counter to what I saidYeah no, the Hagoromo that fought Kaguya is not weaker than naruto/sasuke and jubidaara.
Obito:Obito and Sakura don't have any feat that I can recall. And please don't bring up Sakura plot-induced stupidity as a feat (final punch) Or naruto harming a weaken Kaguya.
Third ******* Hokage.https://media.**********.net/attachments/1103829419296034856/1316605434156683264/IMG_3710.jpg?ex=675ba7dc&is=675a565c&hm=8cc3330fd1c84fa52f97ff31d76ae576d88faeae6a7f6dcfed2097b1e5fdc3b8&=&format=webp&width=1326&height=796
Only with the cubes iirc
While possessing jigen ishikki never had negative emotions per say. Heck bro was calm as hell and treated fighting them as simply removing necessary obstacles unlike Momoshiki that was oozing of it. In fact I don't think ishikki had such until Baryon mkdeIs it a plothole that Naruto couldn’t sense Jigen via Kurama’s Negative Emotion sensing? Or PIS?
His chakra was described as insanely sinister when he first entered the village to the point where Ino had trouble standing.While possessing jigen ishikki never had negative emotions per say. Heck bro was calm as hell and treated fighting them as simply removing necessary obstacles unlike Momoshiki that was oozing of it. In fact I don't think ishikki had such until Baryon mkde
Iirc, isn’t only stated their “chakra”, not presence?Otsutsuki can mask the presence.
Don't Otsutsuki nullify empathic sensing?Is it a plothole that Naruto couldn’t sense Jigen via Kurama’s Negative Emotion sensing? Or PIS?
What's funny is the mental gymnastics of explaining how Byakugo Sakura who stated she finally arrived at initial kcm Naruto and initial EMS Sasuke tier "I've finally caught up to them" suddenly jumped several tiers to RSM Naruto and Rinnegan Sasuke tier without any new amp.That's not really a counter to what I said
Obito:
Sakura:
- teleported faster than Kaguya could close her portal or SPSM Naruto could fly into it
- withstood the heavy gravity dimension that strained Naruto, Sasuke, and Kaguya
- likely resolve amped, but intercepted Kaguya's AKAB and Kamui'd the one at point blank range in front of Kakashi
- while partially paralyzed by Madara's rod, she punched faster than Naruto or Sasuke could reach her from a relatively short distance (also Sasuke might've been Chidori amped making it much more impressive, but it's unclear if that applies to the Chidori katana)
- you can also argue something from the fact that she dashed to Madara before Naruto or Sasuke could stop her, but there are different ways you could interpret that
- provided more chakra to Obito than a SPSM Naruto clone could've
- reacted to Sasuke's running (probably Shunshin given the urgent situation?) speed and acted during it
- also withstood the heavy gravity dimension
- reacted to and temporarily avoided Kaguya's chakra arm, which is super fast in comparison to Naruto and Sasuke
- yes, the infamous moment where she tagged a hugely amped IT Kaguya flying fast enough to easily outspeed SPSM Naruto and Rinnegan Sasuke and damaged her
There are also a variety of perception speed feats both have throughout the fight, but those are less solid.