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Damage3245 said:@AstralKing7; yes, it is AP but it is part of the issue with Killer B's inconsistency as a whole. The other parts I mentioned are to do with his speed.
And I don't remember Killer B saying he ever held back against Ay.
Did you just stop reading the rest of my post once you got to the AP bit? I linked more scans there than just the Lariat you know.AstralKing7 said:Explain the inconsistency. He doesn't have any inconsistency at all in the speed category. He was still able to keep up with Ay. You are talking about AP which doesn't count at all.
I've asked for DDM to come and review the sandbox so far. People can't comment on sandboxes directly but they can do so on this thread.Purgy said:@Damage is your thread accepted? Also, where do people comment on it?
I was referring to MS Sasuke. Sorry if I didn't make it clear.Damage3245 said:@UchihaSlayer96; 3-Tomoe Sasuke can't be Sub-Rel because of the statements for Kirin which the OP has even acknowledged in the opening post.
His reaction speed (since he could react to Killer B and Ay) is what is Sub-Rel but his overall speed is still MHS+.
Base B has too many feats supporting him having Sub-Rel.Jvando said:Sasuke is fine having MHS+ with sub-Rel reactions.
I'm not sure how I feel about Base Bee being straight up sub-Rel tbh. Him being MHS+ likely Sub-Rel sounds fine imo.
I agree.Jvando said:Sasuke is fine having MHS+ with sub-Rel reactions.
I'm not sure how I feel about Base Bee being straight up sub-Rel tbh. Him being MHS+ likely Sub-Rel sounds fine imo.
Damage3245 said:Also, I want to note to some people that Killer B in his base form is a pretty inconsistent character.
Like, on one hand you have Killer B intercepting an attack from the Lightning Armor Raikage and later completely overpowering his Lariat while in base with own Lariat.
And on the other hand you have Killer B completely fail to react to an attack from base Raikage and failing to even budge the Raikage with his Lariat.
So the best compromise I think that might work for Killer B here is for his speed in base to be "At least Massively Hypersonic+, possibly Sub-Relativistic".
That's honestly the highest I can see his speed being rated.
v2 ay >v1 ay=ms/3tDamage3245 said:@UchihaSlayer96; 3-Tomoe Sasuke can't be Sub-Rel because of the statements for Kirin which the OP has even acknowledged in the opening post.
His reaction speed (since he could react to Killer B and Ay) is what is Sub-Rel but his overall speed is still MHS+.
But the convoluted fighting style thing doesn't make much sense either lmao....Damage3245 said:@BlackeJan; that's inherently contradictory. Sasuke has Sub-Rel reaction for keeping up with a faster version of B, so it doesn't make sense to say that a slower version of Killer B is Sub-Rel for being faster than Sasuke's reactions. Sasuke mostly had trouble with keeping up with him due to Killer B's convoluted fighting style.
Killer B is able to keep up with V2 jins as well as KCM Naruto.Damage3245 said:@BlackeJan; that's inherently contradictory. Sasuke has Sub-Rel reaction for keeping up with a faster version of B, so it doesn't make sense to say that a slower version of Killer B is Sub-Rel for being faster than Sasuke's reactions. Sasuke mostly had trouble with keeping up with him due to Killer B's convoluted fighting style.